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Dumb question time again, but is there a name for the style of drumming here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct-qa6SjRZo I'm not very good yet, but I love playing along to that (in Rock Band anyway) and would love to find some similar stuff to build my skills on.
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Oct 24, 2019 21:58
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Don't know if it has a proper name, but I recognize that style as having lots of 16th notes snuck in between the 'main' 8th notes. Check out anything by Silversun Pickups, their drummer plays those patterns 24/7. They look really easy and simple, and they are, but playing them consistently for 5+ minutes is still really challenging (for me) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHJcaPNZ0g&t=23s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LSKpm5PCGg&t=20s ogod there's so many  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2gWeCUei7k&t=30s
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Oct 25, 2019 03:41
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They’re like, really late classic rock that’s also half indie, with some southern rock vibes. Some major features that stand out to me are the fuzzed out guitar, drum groove with some ghost notes on snare, and lofi vocals You’ll prolly like: Have You Ever Seen The Rain by Creedence Clearwater Revival (classic rock, some southern rock vibes. hella fuzz on the guitar) Hold On by Alabama Shakes (southern rock, distortion on guitar, kinda lofi vocals)—side note, this drum part is HELLA fun Interstate Love Song by Stone Temple Pilots (indie rock/grunge, drum groove with ghost notes on snare) Hey Joe by Jimmy Hendrix (classic rock, fuzzed guitar, ghost notes on snare, lofi vocals)
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Oct 25, 2019 16:15
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Thanks guys, that's some good stuff to work through. Somehow I'd made it this long without checking out Alabama Shakes too, so that was something of a revelation. I also found this isolated drum track from Love Spreads, something about those ghost snare notes and the bass drum beats just tickles my brain in all the right ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iePKcrATSA
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Oct 25, 2019 16:52
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Now if you want to speed it up a little, try this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfjXp4KTTY8 You can also get a good look at his hands too. If you get good at this type of groove you can now play in just about any blues cover band. EDIT: If you want to adjust the difficulty level, play a shuffle on the ride instead of quarter notes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOImlLjhqY Bonzo fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Oct 25, 2019 |
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Oct 25, 2019 21:34
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Enos Cabell posted:something about those ghost snare notes and the bass drum beats just tickles my brain in all the right ways. *Chad Smith has logged on to the chat* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqx0BZEEoOU
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Oct 25, 2019 21:58
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So I'm entertaining the idea of getting another compact drum kit. Last time I posted ITT I think I was talking about having just bought the Ludwig Breakbeats kit, which I actually liked a LOT. Unfortunately in my impulsivity and desire for something even more 'travel-ready' I traded it for a Traps A400, a folding kit that's just heads on rims mounted to a frame. I played it a couple of times but now it sits in my hallway, behind a bicycle I also never use, gathering dust. I recently browsed around and it looks like there are some new players in the game, like this little guy. I would also not be opposed to getting back that Breakbeats kit, or the SONOR Martini kit I was originally after. Thoughts? Is that Pearl Traveler kit hot garbage compared to something like the Breakbeats or Martini, am I gonna regret not having toms or will it get me playing outside? Am I just being stupid and impulsive again, should I bust out the Traps and see if I can actually get back to enjoying it? Should I say gently caress it all and just get a practice pad kit as I am no doubt entirely covered in rust after all this time away from the skins?
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Oct 31, 2019 05:26
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I've never played on a compact/portable kit so I can't compare quality, but in general you can do a WHOLE LOT with just a bass, snare and hihat. Obviously you won't have as many different sounds to work with, but you can still combine rhythms and dynamics endlessly between those 3. The Japanese prog/math/? band Te has just a floor tom and one cymbal besides that and it might as well be a full kit for how well he uses it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFpmJpVPVe4 e: Well now I'm falling down a Youtube rabbit hole of Te videos, which is hard to do because their name is a pain in the rear end to google for  But if you really want to be compact, you don't even really need to pack a throne  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C2Zsj3FSYs And drum porn of the above song because why not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34qSuiH5cX0 Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Oct 31, 2019 |
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Oct 31, 2019 07:28
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Earlier this year I had a gig to fly to on the other side of the continent and because I'm stubborn I decided to build a four piece kit that I could take with me.   It's a 10x8 rack, 13x9 floor, and 16x10 kick with a 14x5.5 snare all fitting together in a 16x16 floor tom case. Between this, a bag of lightweight hardware, and a cymbal bag, it's possible to be your own roadie and take everything in one trip (if you don't mind hauling 100 lbs).
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Oct 31, 2019 15:31
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Last week I kinda sorta broke the DW 7000 double pedal that my kit I got from Craigslist had included. I decided to switch to the Pearl P932 Demonator based on a lot of reviews saying it was the best pedal in $200ish price range. The pedals seem solid and overall I'm happy with the purchase so far, but my problem is that I'm having a ton of trouble getting used to them. I've been playing for about 4 months so I'm certainly no expert but previously I could do 16th note triplets pretty well at 90 BPM. On the new pedals I just feel like I have no control, and even dropping down to 70-75 BPM I'm struggling to keep the 16th triplets consistent. I've been constantly fiddling with the beater angle/footboard height and spring tension but haven't found the sweet spot yet. It's bumming me out cause I was excited to practice with them this weekend but I ended up just tinkering with the settings the whole time, to no avail. I'm not sure exactly what I'm asking here but I guess I'm just looking for any advice on switching to new pedals and how to find the settings that work for you. I suppose the thing to do would be to drop the BPM considerably and work back up but I'm curious to hear about others' experiences with this. Also - anyone have the Demonators specifically and have any advice on your settings?
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Nov 3, 2019 22:13
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Double post - after some Youtubing, I shifted the footboard back to shorten it and moved the beaters down a bit. Those two changes made a huge difference and now I'm slowly cranking up the tension. Crazy how drumming involves all these small changes to get things positioned optimally for everyone's individual tastes. The tinkering is all part of the fun.
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Nov 4, 2019 00:55
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Years ago I bought a new ride stand that was really great but it had a weird tension on the cymbal itself I wasn’t used to. I had been over tightening it and making the ride more rigid that I was used to and for like 2 months, I had finger pain. Once I solved that, never experienced it again. Drum angles and feels make all the difference.
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Nov 4, 2019 01:37
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I always worry about looking like a huge drama queen whenever I adjust a drum or cymbal like .5 inches but dammit it makes a big difference <>
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Nov 4, 2019 06:56
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I Might Be Adam posted:Years ago I bought a new ride stand that was really great but it had a weird tension on the cymbal itself I wasn’t used to. I had been over tightening it and making the ride more rigid that I was used to and for like 2 months, I had finger pain. Once I solved that, never experienced it again. Drum angles and feels make all the difference. Takes No Damage posted:I always worry about looking like a huge drama queen whenever I adjust a drum or cymbal like .5 inches but dammit it makes a big difference < Absolutely true. It just makes good sense to make a tiny lil change to something external compared to how difficult it is to change something internal (your technique, your habits, muscle memory, etc). You adjust those clamps and elbows!
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Nov 4, 2019 18:37
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When memory clamps came out in the 80s they were awesome and saved lots of time setting up for a gig.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:32
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I have found the holy grail of bad drumming videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AjozROk7xg
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Nov 5, 2019 23:26
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 He looks really stiff and awkward, but he's got enough gear that this seems like more than just an occasional hobby for him. He stays pretty much on beat, but has like no articulation in his wrists or hands at all, he's playing with his elbows. I'm trying to imagine the combination of experience that results in... THIS, but I'm struggling to do so. Also, not his fault, but boo on Prince for not playing the full 7 minute version of the song  The drums were simple enough that I actually tried to chart it out by ear and covered it myself a few years ago. It's kinda fun to play a song so simple you can really listen to the rest of it while still playing your part.https://vimeo.com/215107585 https://vimeo.com/215107585 e: Rewatching this and wow my left pinkie just goes on a journey huh 
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Nov 6, 2019 22:31
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Toxic Mental posted:I have found the holy grail of bad drumming videos Disappointed that he didn't use that overhead drum as part of his last-chord fill. I figured it was his money shot drum but I guess it's just ornamental.
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Nov 6, 2019 22:42
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I might have figured something out. After squinting at that speaker in the top right for a while I'm pretty sure it's a Technics brand. Some light googling revealshttps://www.technics.com/us/products/c700/sb-c700.html posted:Technics’ newly developed flat coaxial two-way speaker unit combines a tweeter for high frequencies and a woofer for mid-range and bass. Because the tweeter is at the center of the woofer, the speaker acts as a point sound source, providing a coherent, integrated sound across the frequency range, without directional anomalies. As a result, the Technics Speaker System deliver a live superb soundstage focus, excellent imaging and the ambience required to deliver the ‘live music’ experience. I think we might have an audiophile on our hands, which would explain the huge kit but complete lack of finesse or technique. Also is that a novelty giant drumstick I spy?  e: The more I watch this the worse it gets, it's like a cursed Magic Eye for percussion. Look at the bass drum beater. Look at it. Look at where it is
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Nov 6, 2019 23:03
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This video has made me upset. It’s painful to watch. Those dual crash reaches just look so uncomfortable. Its like when a cymbal/drum stand starts to walk away during a gig and there’s nothing you can do until the song ends but it’s this dudes whole kit and he wants it that way.
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Nov 8, 2019 18:44
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Toxic Mental posted:I have found the holy grail of bad drumming videos Hope that guy has benefits because he's going to have carpal tunnel like wouldn't believe.
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Nov 8, 2019 19:51
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Nov 8, 2019 20:56
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Question about electronic drums! I have a Roland TD-11k stock kit and I’ve come across a CY-12r/c cymbal at a good price used. I want to replace my CY-8 ride with the CY-12r/c and move the CY-8 to the crash-2 port. Some people online say that it works with the TD-11 but I don’t see the option under pad settings for the 12RC. I see the 12C and 13R. What pad settings would I use? Can anyone confirm that it works as a three zone ride on the TD11k?
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Nov 10, 2019 22:47
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While we’re talking about e-kits, anyone know if Roland does black Friday sales? I’m looking at the KT-10 to augment my SPD-SX but don’t wanna drop 200$-300$ on a new one
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Nov 11, 2019 01:26
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Is there anyone here who went from acoustic kit to e-kit and liked it? Don’t get me wrong, I’ve played on several e-kits and most importantly a roland kit at a church that was very nice even though it wasn’t top of the line but drat, I couldn’t get over the feel of them compared to an acoustic kit. Even the roland mesh heads while being fun to do effortless fills in just didn’t feel good compared.
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Nov 11, 2019 03:54
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I Might Be Adam posted:Is there anyone here who went from acoustic kit to e-kit and liked it? Don’t get me wrong, I’ve played on several e-kits and most importantly a roland kit at a church that was very nice even though it wasn’t top of the line but drat, I couldn’t get over the feel of them compared to an acoustic kit. Even the roland mesh heads while being fun to do effortless fills in just didn’t feel good compared. I haven't played an acoustic set in probably 10 years due to living situations. You get used to them. Speaking of which... I tried with this Alesis Strike kit. I really tried. I originally bought it new two years ago because of the value - four cymbals, four huge toms, module sounded more realistic than anything Roland had out because it used real samples, all for the price of a mid-tier Roland set. I just gave up and bought a ten year old TDW-20 module. The Alesis sounds may be more realistic in a recording, but there's a reason Roland does it the way they do it and it has to do with playability. Hi-hats have always sucked on the Strike, but they're a drat dream on the Roland. Just perfect responsiveness and dynamics. Same with the rest of the kit. They may sound more electronic, a little less advanced, but they also just have that classic punchy Roland sound that makes them feel better to actually *play*. Not only that but the idiots designed the toms/snare so that the pressure pad that the piezo is on starts to crack. They evidently fixed this but I have an earlier one and I'm out of warranty. I can already see it start to happen on my snare. Bottom line, just buy a drat Roland.
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Nov 14, 2019 00:28
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I guess maybe a roland kit with live cymbals would be somewhat acceptable bc the cymbals were always the worst part for me but at that point it doesn’t make any sense.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:15
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CanadianSuperKing posted:Question about electronic drums! I have a Roland TD-11k stock kit and I’ve come across a CY-12r/c cymbal at a good price used. I want to replace my CY-8 ride with the CY-12r/c and move the CY-8 to the crash-2 port. Some people online say that it works with the TD-11 but I don’t see the option under pad settings for the 12RC. I see the 12C and 13R. What pad settings would I use? Can anyone confirm that it works as a three zone ride on the TD11k? I want to do pretty much this same exact thing so please report how it works out for you.
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I Might Be Adam posted:I guess maybe a roland kit with live cymbals would be somewhat acceptable bc the cymbals were always the worst part for me but at that point it doesn’t make any sense. There are good e-cymbals but you gotta spend a lot. Is it the sound or the feel you don't like? Vino posted:I want to do pretty much this same exact thing so please report how it works out for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKFJM8vZphA According to this the CY-13R works. So I would think the 12R/C would.
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Nov 14, 2019 17:29
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AndrewP posted:There are good e-cymbals but you gotta spend a lot. Is it the sound or the feel you don't like? Pretty much both. Maybe those weird mesh cymbals would be good? Haven’t tried those.
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Nov 15, 2019 02:52
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Asking this here since I'm not sure if there's a better place to ask: I recently joined a local taiko group, and I'm looking to improve my playing in general. I've got some taiko-specific practice drills, but are there any good resources I should check out that would help me improve at things like playing polyrhythms, hand independence, rhythmic accuracy and sightreading, and quickly and accurately switching between different complex rhythmic phrases (not sure if there's a term for that)? Ideally it'd be something that's either sort of drum-agnostic, or easily transferable between different instruments, but if like the best option is grabbing some drumsticks and a practice pad and drilling rudiments or something, I'm not averse to that.
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Nov 15, 2019 19:49
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MockingQuantum posted:Asking this here since I'm not sure if there's a better place to ask: Great explanation on how to play any polyrhythm. I do this but in a line on graph paper so it’s a closer approximation of reading sheet music
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Nov 15, 2019 20:19
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Vino posted:I want to do pretty much this same exact thing so please report how it works out for you. Well it works! I plugged the 12R/C in the ride and RDB ports and moved the CY-8 to the Crash-2. I set the pad settings for a 13R for the ride and it worked just fine!
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Nov 15, 2019 22:35
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Jazz Marimba posted:Great explanation on how to play any polyrhythm. I do this but in a line on graph paper so it’s a closer approximation of reading sheet music This is great, I've kind of intuited some of what he talks about over the years but it's a much cleaner explanation than I had in my head.
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Nov 15, 2019 23:57
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CanadianSuperKing posted:Well it works! I plugged the 12R/C in the ride and RDB ports and moved the CY-8 to the Crash-2. I set the pad settings for a 13R for the ride and it worked just fine! Nice thanks for keeping me up to date man!
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Nov 19, 2019 07:20
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MockingQuantum posted:This is great, I've kind of intuited some of what he talks about over the years but it's a much cleaner explanation than I had in my head. Also pick up a copy of the official percussion bible, Stick Control. It's written with the snare drum in mind, but 90% will transfer to any other drum as well. It starts off at the very beginning with LRLR patterns, but soon enough you'll be playing paradiddle phrases with mixed triplets and sixtuplets. If you want to focus specifically on syncopation there's Progressive Steps to Syncopation for the Modern Drummer, which has a very similar style to Stick Control in that it's just tons of rudiments and pattern variations. They would both definitely help in being able to quickly identify notes and recognize common rhythmic patterns. Looks like you could pick up the pair on Amazon used for about 5bux.
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Dec 3, 2019 08:55
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Any suggestions for an electronic setup for a kid? He's shown some interest, but not enough to justify a big investment at this point. I'd rather just have something decent available for him to experiment with. What do these things tend to cost?
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Dec 6, 2019 18:03
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Best Buy sells some Yamaha kits that are basic but not horrible.
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Dec 6, 2019 18:24
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Any general recommendations for a single ~100$ USB microphone for recording an entire kit? Right now I'm just using a Tascam DR-05 suspended above my head on an extra boom stand and it works "okay" for what I'm doing, but it doesn't have USB pass-through and will only record to its internal memory, forcing me to mount it as storage to copy the files over to a PC. My goal is to get something USB that I can plug into a Raspberry Pi and just record with Audacity or something.
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RIP Neil Peart 
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