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Wirth1000 posted:Two rookies who have no idea how to set a car up not necessarily due to ability but really inexperience is such a stereotypical gently caress up seen countless times in quite honestly every motorsport series that just lol... just lol. It’s true.
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marshalljim posted:He's competent+, has a personality, and still has plenty of good years left in him. All that makes him really valuable to the series. In the absence of decisive amounts of sponsorbux, it's not hard to see how no one team would want to be the one to actually let him race, though. Plus he's the only Canadian and a big draw for Toronto. I bet the series is working behind the scenes to put something together for him.
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gret posted:Plus he's the only Canadian and a big draw for Toronto. I bet the series is working behind the scenes to put something together for him. lol says who
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Wirth1000 posted:lol says who The organizers of the Indy Toronto, and Honda Canada. Apparently.
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We lost Greg Moore 20 years ago today. Marshall Pruett uploaded the following, so I thought I'd pass it on for the unaware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arl_VOXJeAk
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iwentdoodie posted:Penske now owns IMS and the series itself. https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...e7de_story.html
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iwentdoodie posted:Penske now owns IMS and the series itself. Welp, that's a thing
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Call me crazy but that sounds like a conflict of interest.
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Big Huski Boi posted:Call me crazy but that sounds like a conflict of interest. Ya think?? This is nuts.
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iwentdoodie posted:Penske now owns IMS and the series itself. loving whoa
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The Hulmans were pretty incompetent anyway. I’m not sure if this is such a bad thing.
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I’ll take Penske over a group of investors or some poo poo buying the series.
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Big Huski Boi posted:Call me crazy but that sounds like a conflict of interest. As opposed to Vision Racing / ECR? I don't see this as a bad thing. The Hulman family has obviously been hurting for money - they sold Clabber Girl this year, whereas Penske's other businesses could probably fund Indycar at a loss indefinitely. Maybe I'm crazy but I don't think that Roger is going to go and try to use series ownership to his own advantage at this point in life. He's already the winningest owner by any measure, and by a margin large enough that it's basically impossible for that to change in his lifetime. He also very personally knows the reality of the Indy 500 without the teams and drivers everyone wants to see. I'd expect him to put most of the control of the track and series under someone other than Tim Cindric and call it good. As long as he doesn't sell to ISC.
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dentist toy box posted:I’ll take Penske over a group of investors or some poo poo buying the series. Well yeah IOwnCalculus posted:As opposed to Vision Racing / ECR? That's a hell of a lot different.
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Big Huski Boi posted:Well yeah Because TG was incompetent at everything, sure
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Frond posted:This also means that CART won. Look at the schedule and the cars. CART won a cultural victory years ago, this just makes it official.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Because TG was incompetent at everything, sure Because the owner of the most dominant team in the sport outright buying the track and the series is not remotely comparable to a member of the track ownership starting a lovely irrelevant team.
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Theris posted:Look at the schedule and the cars. CART won a cultural victory years ago, this just makes it official. It’s a Pyrrhic victory. The series is showing a slight improvement though but it’s from the depths.
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Theris posted:Look at the schedule and the cars. CART won a cultural victory years ago, this just makes it official. Tony George: Our series is running your road courses & wearing your blue jeans!
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*shrug* no different from AXR and IMSA Penske should be a good steward of the sport, and I know his kids are into racing themselves, at least Jay is, with a Formula E team that he runs.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Roger Penske is 420 years old so I don't know what happens when he goes I'm pretty sure Roger is smart enough to leave things to someone other than his kids.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Roger Penske is 420 years old so I don't know what happens when he goes I think Jay is pretty competent.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I think Ferrucci becoming one of the top drivers would be one of the few things to get me to actually stop following IndyCar, other than Tony George getting appointed chairman again or something. Well, the last thing isn’t happening now.
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I'll take an optimistic approach to this. Penske loves the place and it could've fallen into far worse hands.
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Incredible job by Tony George squandering and selling literally everything his family built and wanted to pass down. Cool!
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Fauxhawk Express posted:I'll take an optimistic approach to this. Penske loves the place and it could've fallen into far worse hands. I’m in this camp. One of my coworkers is already doom and gloom, but overall I think this will be positive for both the track and the series. Since Mary Hulman’s death, there’s been a lot of infighting in the family and I don’t know that the passion is there to continue owning the series/track. Hulman Co sold off Clabber Girl last year, what else do they have left?
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PenskeCar 2020: Drivers, start your Rogers!
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Cygni posted:Incredible job by Tony George squandering and selling literally everything his family built and wanted to pass down. Cool! It was a colossal waste of time.
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