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Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

who do you think is gonna win it all

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Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

chris

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

i'm not even totally sure who is still in it but i am excited to view youtube highlight videos of people i would not normally watch

having said that my prediction is okada

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
This round's winners:

Toru Yano 40, Robbie Eagles 4
Naomichi Marufuji 24, Becky Lynch 19
Jon Moxley 39, Tony Deppen 5
Flamita 31, Braun Strowman 11

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
Special formatting request: Please only list the name of the person you are voting for from each match-up. This will be easier for me to count than bolding names from match-ups. I can work around this if necessary, but if you can vote by just listing the name of your choice, that would be great.

You can abstain from votes. You are not required to list that vote as ‘abstain,’ you just need to skip it.



Daniel Bryan
Finished 3rd in Favorite Active Wrestlers thread
Won ultra-finals of 2017 WH-128


Bryan wasn’t even wrestling when the last WH-128 was held. It seemed impossible for him to come back, but he was able to do so early 2018. Since then, he’s had a largely great series of matches with AJ Styles and has reminded everyone that he’s just not a great wrestler, but charismatic and great on interviews. Bryan should still be one of the best wrestlers as long as his health allows.

Masaaki Mochizuki
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Mochizuki is still a great wrestler at the age of 49. His October 8th match against Ben-K for the Open the Dream Gate is talked of as one of the best Dragon Gate matches of the year. Other highlights for him include a May match against Shun Skywalker.



King Corbin
Eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by Michael Elgin

Long criticized for overpushed, Corbin may have found himself a new role that works as King Corbin. He’s been praised for his work during the King of the Ring tournament, including a highlight match with Chad Gable. He also had a good TLC match with Seth Rollins last year.

Timothy Thatcher
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Thatcher has started to break out in the past couple of years, as his indie performances have gotten rave reviews. This year’s he’s received praise for great matches with Davey Boy Smith Jr., Yuki Ishikawa, Chris Dickinson, Daniel Makabe, and Hideki Suzuki, and those matches each took place in a different promotion. In the past week or so, Twitter was overrun with other wrestlers praising him both for his in-ring skills and his kindness out of the ring.



Darby Allin
Finished 32nd in Favorite Active Wrestlers thread
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128


Allin wasn’t even on the WH-128 radar in 2017, but he’s put himself on the map by working all over the world in the indies and eventually putting on star making performances in EVOLVE, PWG, and AEW. His Coffin Drop finisher is one of the most shocking high flying moves in the world. Allin also seems to thrive off of ridiculous spots, making every match he’s in completely unpredictable.

Ryusuke Taguchi
Eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by Kofi Kingston
Eliminated in Round 3 in 2013 by Kevin Steen


Taguchi is the closest thing the New Japan junior heavyweight division has to Toru Yano. In addition to his comedy matches, “The Funky Weapon” also has the ability to put on good matches. This year, he’s put on good-to-great matches this year with Taiji Ishimori, Hiroshi Tanahashi, YOH, DOUKI, Robbie Eagles, and Will Ospreay. He’s also spent most of the year with Togi Makabe and Toru Yano as the NEVER Openweight Six-Man Tag Team Champion.



The Young Bucks, Matt & Nick Jackson
Matt: eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by Scott Dawson
Nick: eliminated in Round 2 by Kento Miyahara


As a central part of the launch of AEW, The Young Bucks are on the hunt for their sixth straight WON Tag Team of the Year. They will be hurt by largely missing the first half of the year, but they’re making up for it as best as they can, with every high profile match they’ve had this year as a tag team receiving at least four stars from Meltzer (until the AEW Dynamite debut). They’ll continue to be one of the best teams in the world going forward.

Io Shirai
Eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by KUSHIDA

After a seven-year run in Stardom, Shirai joined WWE in 2018, debuting in November for them. After a series where she was unable to get a fair match against Shayna Baszler and thus was unable to win the NXT Women’s Title, she turned heel on friend Candice LeRae and had an amazing match with her in August. Shirai’s one of the very best female workers in WWE today.



Taichi
Finished 19th in Favorite Active Wrestlers thread
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128


Taichi was criticized for not maximizing his talents. He always seemed to leave something on the table. That seems to have changed in 2019. His act has improved with the addition of a Phantom of the Opera-esque mask and “singing” portion, along with his adorably evil valet, Mako Abe. Add in that the past two years have seen him put on ****+ matches with Ospreay, Takagi, and Ishii, and Taichi has entered another level.

Sonny Kiss
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Kiss is a prospect that’s signed with AEW. While he’s green, he’s very charismatic and athletic in the ring. He came off as a future star in his match with Peter Avalon at Fight for the Fallen, and he managed to get himself over in the Casino Battle Royale at Double or Nothing.



Randy Orton
Eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by Joey Ryan’s Dick
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2015 by Tomohiro Ishii
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2013 by Kane
Eliminated in Round 3 in 2011 by Davey Richards
Eliminated in Round 3 in 2009 by Jack Swagger
Eliminated in Round 3 in 2007 by Shawn Michaels


I ain’t got anything new to say here.

Jacob Fatu
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Fatu is considered one of the top prospects in U.S. wrestling. Just seven years into his career, MLW has bet big on him, making him the leader of the Contra Unit heel group and giving him their world championship. He’s been praised for his combination of size and agility.



Orange Cassidy
Finished 16th in Favorite Active Wrestlers thread
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128


Still the chilliest motherfucker on the planet.

Taiji Ishimori
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Ishimori won the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship at Tokyo Dome at the start of the year in a good match with KUSHIDA, and then had great defenses against Taguchi & Liger before dropping the belt to Dragon Lee. His tag team with El Phantasmo had a pair of great matches with Robbie Eagles & Will Ospreay, ending with IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship going to Bullet Club.



Ricochet
Eliminated in Round 4 of 2017 WH-128 by Cesaro
Eliminated in The Quarter Finals in 2015 by Kevin Owens
Eliminated in Round 4 in 2013 by Daniel Bryan
Eliminated in Round 1 in 2011 by KENTA


He’s still one of the very best high flying wrestlers in the world. WWE has largely pushed him well after he moved up from NXT. There’s been a couple of speedbumps, but he’s been doing well on the main roster, putting on good matches with AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, and Drew McIntyre, plus an entertaining (if creatively confusing) tag team with Aleister Black. In addition to his in-ring talent, he has an innate charisma that should make stardom easy for him.

Jungle Boy
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Jungle Boy has largely been working solo on the indies, though he’s being slotted in AEW as half of the Jurassic Express. He’s talented regardless of his role, with seemingly endless charisma and an innate ability to generate sympathy. He’s also a very promising worker, with many well received matches in PWG, AEW and GCW, including a ****1/2 singles match against Jake Atlas. It’d be shocking if he’s not a future superstar.

Your ballot:

Daniel Bryan vs. Masaaki Mochizuki
King Corbin vs. Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin vs. Ryusuke Taguchi
The Young Bucks vs. Io Shirai
Taichi vs. Sonny Kiss
Randy Orton vs. Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy vs. Taiji Ishimori
Ricochet vs. Jungle Boy

Voting closes at 7 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday, or whenever I get in front of a computer after that.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
Io Shirai
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Lead Pipe Cinch
Mar 10, 2003

Heavy Metal Bakesale


Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
Io Shirai
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Fad
Nov 13, 2002

I dont care.
Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
The Young Bucks
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Ricochet

Sticky Nate
Jan 9, 2012

Masaaki Mochizuki
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Taichi
jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Jungle Boy

Numero6
Oct 10, 2012

ここは地の果て 流されて俺
今日もさすらい 涙も涸れる
ブルーゲイル
Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Taichi

Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
The Young Bucks
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

Masaaki Mochizuki - i'm confident even if bryan were in a real company mocchy would still be better with the year he's had
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Jungle Boy

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Daniel Bryan
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

duckdealer
Feb 28, 2011

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Jungle Boy

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

Punch McLightning posted:

Taichi vs. Sonny Kiss

you motherfucker. i must think on this

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Jungle Boy

Do not even ask
Apr 8, 2008


Masaaki Mochizuki
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Jungle Boy

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Masaaki Mochizuki
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Jungle Boy


Has anyone gone from forum darling to lame cop faster than Ricochet? (at least in the non-Seth division)

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Masaaki Mochizuki
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

Masaaki Mochizuki
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Sonny Kiss
acob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Ricochet

Insertnamehere31
Jan 23, 2012

This could be the most one-sided fight since 1973 when Ali faced an eighty-foot tall mechanical Joe Frazier. My memory isn't what it used to be, but I think the entire Earth was destroyed.

Daniel Bryan

Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Taichi

Orange Cassidy
Ricochet

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Masaaki Mochizuki
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
Io Shirai
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Jungle Boy

A year or so ago I'd never have considered voting against Ricochet :sigh:

Cool Post Beg
Mar 6, 2008

DADDY MAGIC
Daniel Bryan
King Corbin
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Sonny Kiss
Randy Orton
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



Daniel Bryan

Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Ricochet

Netsky
Jun 24, 2004
I AM THE STREET



Daniel Bryan
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Taichi
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Kouerson
Mar 5, 2008


If you die in Canada, you die in real life.
Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Sonny Kiss
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Daniel Bryan - a 3 year layoff has not killed his ability to spin poo poo into gold
Timothy Thatcher - controversial opinion here I know but gently caress Baron Corbin
Darby Allin - a motherfucking star
Io Shirai - I don't do NXT any more because gently caress supporting the Big Trump Fundraiser but Io is one of the few things that makes me wish I did
Taichi - turn Kip Sabien into a male version of Miho Abe and give him to Sonny and then I might have voted the other way
Jacob Fatu - FROM OUTTA NOWHERE
Orange Cassidy - hardest pick of this batch but I'm really intrigued by OC and I love the slow build he's getting
Jungle Boy - not a cop

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
Io Shirai
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Masaaki Mochizuki
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Ricochet

Just want to stress that the Bryan vs Mochizuki match is one I'd kill to actually get to see in real life. Mochi kinda gets forgotten about by non-Dragon Gate watchers but he's one of the absolute best old wrestlers in the world. Or rather he's one of the absolute best wrestlers in the world, and he's also old! Meanwhile Bryan is straight up one of my all-time faves. But when I'm talking about Bryan I'm saying his first name: I'm thinking of Bryan Danielson, I'm thinking of his indies run where he was so versatile and exciting. But looking at the 2 year period since the last one of these tournaments it ain't even close. Bryan has had some good stuff, with Brock, AJ, & Kofi, but Mochizuki has been out there rocking away: he formed Mochizuki Dojo to help several young & kinda floundering DG guys get experience and it's been fun as hell, there was his Dream Gate defence against Kzy, the defence against Ben-K, & the match with YAMATO. There was a great tag team match in All Japan with Shun Skywalker against Shuji Kondo & Kotaro Suzuki which I can't find video of,Mochi & Shun vs Tribe Vanguard of BxB Hulk & YAMATO, ]a great DG trios match between the groups of Mochizuki Dojo, Natural Vibes & MaximuM, ]big singles with Shuji Kondo in Kondo's first singles match back in DG in years, his King of Gate match with Shun after he left the Dojo, the big Ultimo Dragon emotional come back trios at Kobe World, against Kenoh in NOAH & his apparently challenge against Ben-K from last month that I am going to watch over breakfast. Oh yeah, & the match from Gate of Destiny where he tagged with YAMATO against Shun & Kzy.

Watch Dragon Gate, love Mochizuki.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Ryusuke Taguchi
Io Shirai
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Ricochet

Queer Salutations
Aug 20, 2009

kind of a shitty wizard...

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
Io Shirai
Sonny Kiss
Jacob Fatu
Taiji Ishimori
Jungle Boy

Sorry Coach.

BTF
Oct 15, 2019

I love Matt Taven
DBD/Mochizuki: the toughest draw of the first round. Mochi is still amazing and Bryan is one of my all time faves. Have to go with Mochi because he's losing anyways his last few years have been stronger.
Corbin/Thatcher: From one of the toughest to one of the easiest. Thathcer deserves to have his art appreciated by the US audiences.
Allin/Taguchi: suicidal half-skeleton turtle lover beats man who has an rear end
Bucks/Shirai: NXT-Shirai has been good (from what I've seen), Hitokiri was the best part of the Pentagon vs joshininjas match, but I haven't seen enough of her praised Stardom stuff to put her ahead of the Bucks.
Taichi/Kiss: Have to abstain here, neither haven't really made an impression on me.
Orton/Fatu: Headlocks or moonsaults. Hmm, that is indeed a choice.
Cassidy/Ishimori: Cassidy is a delight, always.
O'Shea/Boy: I've never been the biggest fan of Rick O'Shea, although I do acknowledge his incredible athletic skills and his great run as Prince Puma. Jungle Boy might be a bit generic at the moment, but the upside is huge(-ish)

Masaaki Mochizuki
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
-
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

BTF
Oct 15, 2019

I love Matt Taven
edit: derped a double post here

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
Io Shirai
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

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Takuan
May 6, 2007

Daniel Bryan
Timothy Thatcher
Darby Allin
The Young Bucks
Taichi
Jacob Fatu
Orange Cassidy
Jungle Boy

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