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ungulateman posted:Liliana's Triumph. Angrath's Rampage. Blessed Alliance. Languish. Ugin. Ugin is the only card I've seen played from that list.
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Why is Thirsting Bloodlord an uncommon from m20 and also 4 bucks each?
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Nov 5, 2019 04:55
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Sickening posted:Why is Thirsting Bloodlord an uncommon from m20 and also 4 bucks each? I think it's a planeswalker deck card?
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Nov 5, 2019 04:59
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Sickening posted:Why is Thirsting Bloodlord an uncommon from m20 and also 4 bucks each? it's from the planeswalker theme deck
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Nov 5, 2019 04:59
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ungulateman posted:Liliana's Triumph. Angrath's Rampage. Blessed Alliance. Languish. Ugin. I stand by my statement. I'm looking at the PTQ lists and the most recent 5-0s and I don't see alot of the ones you mentioned, except Languish in sideboards, and Settle the Wreckage maindeck in some control lists. Unless you see a Bogles takeover, I don't think edict effects are going to be working in Pioneer. Although going through the lists I did see this thing of beauty: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-ub-112645#paper
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Nov 5, 2019 05:07
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Sickening posted:Why is Thirsting Bloodlord an uncommon from m20 and also 4 bucks each? A 4 mana lord is still a tribal lord for a very popular tribe and is only in a planeswalker deck, pretty good work on WotC's part.
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Nov 5, 2019 05:08
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That card is unplayable dogshit, FYI
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Nov 5, 2019 05:09
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Bust Rodd posted:That card is unplayable dogshit, FYI So are a lot of cards people want to play with, like Relic of Progenitus in Pauper.
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Nov 5, 2019 05:11
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GoutPatrol posted:
I'm quoting myself because I can't stop thinking about this. How many of the wins came from snap concedes with Dark Deal on the stack? What chat messages were written when someone tried playing Cruise and in response got a Thief in? This is like the American Psycho scene and it gets with me sweating.
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Nov 5, 2019 05:14
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GoutPatrol posted:I'm quoting myself because I can't stop thinking about this. How many of the wins came from snap concedes with Dark Deal on the stack? What chat messages were written when someone tried playing Cruise and in response got a Thief in? One of those wins was me - turns out Jeskai Ascendancy can't beat 4 Narset 4 Notion Thief and then a bunch of counterspells discard and wraths. Though I also managed to draw 40 cards by grinding through a long game 2 and totally missed on Fry, so that was unpleasant.
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Nov 5, 2019 05:17
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Wasteland and Port do that too. I played with Port when it was legal in Standard. Don't print Port. gently caress Port and everything about the gameplay it represents. If Port is the only answer that exists for Pioneer's mana control then just burn the loving format down now. Land Destruction that is affordable and viable early but doesn't auto-include mana fixing is probably a necessary evil for the future of the format but neither Wasteland or Rishadan Port (gently caress port) are what one would call a 'healthy' answer for the format.
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"Upkeep Port your Port" is a phrase I hope to never hear uttered again Edit: time to post some content. Here's a fun brew I've been having incredibly good results with: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2424469#paper I went to Eternal Weekend this week and went undefeated across three pioneer challenges, and have been tearing up the lgs tables with this. A small sable size to be sure, but that's all any of us really have right now I suppose. A proactive Thoughtseize deck seems like one of the best things to be doing in this format. sit on my Facebook fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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Nov 5, 2019 06:39
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While I am a broken man for liking the rebel mechanic during when masques was in standard, rashidian port was a terrible loving card, full stop. Absolute garbage and just served to draw out games and color screw multicolored decks. You would randomly win and lose games due to how many of the 4 ports you drew, vs. How many your opponent drew.
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Drewjitsu posted:While I am a broken man for liking the rebel mechanic during when masques was in standard, rashidian port was a terrible loving card, full stop. Absolute garbage and just served to draw out games and color screw multicolored decks. Not to mention the coin flip being the most impactful part of port mirrors. Also Lin Sivvi owned, hell yeah
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Mr. Locke posted:Land Destruction that is affordable and viable early but doesn't auto-include mana fixing is probably a necessary evil for the future of the format but neither Wasteland or Rishadan Port (gently caress port) are what one would call a 'healthy' answer for the format. I wouldn't be surprised if good land destruction is just one of those things that WotC thinks is an antiquated part of Magic and not worth printing in a future Standard environment (outside of lands where it costs you a resource as well). What was the most-recent playable land D spell? Mwonvuli Acid-Moss? Maybe Crumble to Dust? E: This is somewhat similar to my theory that we're not getting any Constructed-playable mill spells anytime soon, because Wizards ostensibly designs current sets to be good for Limited and having too good of a Mill deck ruins The Limited Experience or whatever. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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Nov 5, 2019 12:35
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C-Euro posted:I wouldn't be surprised if good land destruction is just one of those things that WotC thinks is an antiquated part of Magic and not worth printing in a future Standard environment (outside of lands where it costs you a resource as well). What was the most-recent playable land D spell? Mwonvuli Acid-Moss? Maybe Crumble to Dust? Does Agent of Treachery count?
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Nov 5, 2019 12:45
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They don't print land destruction cards that are more efficient than Demolish - and they shouldn't - but Field of Ruin is exactly the sort of format-agnostic nonbasic land card hate that should just always be in standard 
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Nov 5, 2019 13:12
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ungulateman posted:They don't print land destruction cards that are more efficient than Demolish - and they shouldn't - but Field of Ruin is exactly the sort of format-agnostic nonbasic land card hate that should just always be in standard I definitely agree that field of ruin or something similar should be in all standards. Port and Wasteland are rancid cards and just crank the variance in magic up, while creating terrible games.
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Nov 5, 2019 13:21
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Ravager Wurm could’ve have just eaten any land and it still wouldn’t have been half as strong as Nissa but Gruul/x decks would’ve have a way to race Golos Field decks.
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Nov 5, 2019 13:22
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ungulateman posted:They don't print land destruction cards that are more efficient than Demolish - and they shouldn't - but Field of Ruin is exactly the sort of format-agnostic nonbasic land card hate that should just always be in standard Agreed, Field should be one of those evergreen Standard cards. But it wouldn't surprise me if that's the high watermark for land destruction for the foreseeable future.
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Nov 5, 2019 13:23
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Did they just print a saga that Armageddons? Like only a few years ago?
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Nov 5, 2019 13:31
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they said PLAYABLE land destruction
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Nov 5, 2019 13:57
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Tectonic Rift was playable! (In the wishboard of a Golos deck and mainly for the blocking part)
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Nov 5, 2019 14:33
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Does Oko really need to be banned in Pioneer? Can you imagine the poo poo show if they banned oko in pioneer before they banned him in standard lol
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Nov 5, 2019 14:36
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Paul Zuvella posted:Can you imagine the poo poo show if they banned oko in pioneer before they banned him in standard lol I'm inclined to believe that they won't ban Oko in any format until they've also banned Oko in Standard, and that they won't ban Oko in Standard while Eldraine is the most current Standard set.
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Nov 5, 2019 15:58
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Cactrot posted:I'm inclined to believe that they won't ban Oko in any format until they've also banned Oko in Standard, and that they won't ban Oko in Standard while Eldraine is the most current Standard set. Banning Standard is certainly a brave alternative, if stupid
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Nov 5, 2019 16:50
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Standard has effectively been banned because literally no stores in my general area are running standard events anymore
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Nov 5, 2019 17:08
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Well this is something I guess. https://twitter.com/MTG_Arena/status/1191764883790061568?s=19
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Nov 5, 2019 18:15
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Cactrot posted:I'm inclined to believe that they won't ban Oko in any format until they've also banned Oko in Standard, and that they won't ban Oko in Standard while Eldraine is the most current Standard set. Didn't take long for me to be wrong about this. https://twitter.com/HipstersMTG/status/1191765428999270400
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Nov 5, 2019 18:16
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Wait can you still play Brawl in some arcane way like you can Historic
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Now we can't complain about Oko not being banned! Now you can see No Okos once a week!
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Wait can you still play Brawl in some arcane way like you can Historic On Wednesdays!
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Wait can you still play Brawl in some arcane way like you can Historic Direct challenge? But that doesn’t enforce ban lists anyway.
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So Oko's kind of banned, but only in a very slim format that's playable once a week, and only on Arena. I'm sure that's only going to have a huge upward swing on the already sky high price of him. I should have gotten my set at launch for the Sultai tokens deck I wanted to play. The deck is trash, but I could have easily gotten my starting cash out by just selling the Oko playset.
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rkajdi posted:So Oko's kind of banned, but only in a very slim format that's playable once a week, and only on Arena. I'm sure that's only going to have a huge upward swing on the already sky high price of him. I should have gotten my set at launch for the Sultai tokens deck I wanted to play. The deck is trash, but I could have easily gotten my starting cash out by just selling the Oko playset. Oko's actually come down quite a lot, you can get LP copies on tcgplayer for ~$34. Still dumb, but seeing as he was $60 not 2 weeks ago, it's better I guess?
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Oko's actually come down quite a lot, you can get LP copies on tcgplayer for ~$34. Still dumb, but seeing as he was $60 not 2 weeks ago, it's better I guess? Is it his Oath of Nissa getting the axe or everyone and their grandmother(s) expecting a standard ban?
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Nov 5, 2019 20:47
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Is it his Oath of Nissa getting the axe or everyone and their grandmother(s) expecting a standard ban? I don't understand how someone couldn't expect a standard ban at this point. Its going to break a metagame record in the next pro tour.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Is it his Oath of Nissa getting the axe or everyone and their grandmother(s) expecting a standard ban? Not oath, it’s been a steady slide from the peak. I think it’s a combo of people being worried he gets banned everywhere, and supply steadily increasing as people open packs.
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Someone posted a modern burn decklist on Twitter with oko in the side and I'm gonna scream I would post it but my phone and Twitter don't get along very well when it comes to links
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