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Zyklon B Zombie posted:I'm convinced any UBI program tried in this country will instantly fail because it will just be sucked up by landlords. i'm not a fan of ubi for exactly that reason. i rarely see a national rent control program proposed alongside it (much less the seizing of rental properties). hell, andrew yang has an infographic talking about how renter protections mean that your rents can't be raised because of ubi, which is totally incorrect
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:I'm convinced any UBI program tried in this country will instantly fail because it will just be sucked up by landlords. UBI under capitalism is handing over the last vestiges of power the working class have and hoping that this time the capitalists will value human life They won't. Lambert posted:Same, but with universal healthcare: The extra money people have because healthcare is cheaper means landlords will increase rent. Better not attempt it. Let's see if you can guess why those two things are different.
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when universal healthcare was introduced in Britain it didnt make anyone have any more money because nobody had health insurance in the first place. if you got sick you just died, slowly and in enough pain to keep the whole street awake with your screaming not that landlords could've jacked prices anyway because we also let people squat and went on a massive social housing construction spree basically americans have you considered adopting policies that even a bankrupt post-ww2 european country could successfully implement
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And now, Brexit! This is what socialized medicine leads to, do you really want that in americcuh?
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God Hole posted:what do you think abortively radicalized him and exacerbated his mental illness LaVeyan Satanism, a weird anti-capitalist reading of Ayn Rand, and growing up (and doing crime) in the Soviet Union in the 80's, weirdly enough. Look it's a really complicated story.
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Like I'm pretty sure he hated capitalism more because it meant he had to have a boss and couldn't just beat people up and take poo poo, he was very devoted to the idea of Might Makes Right and his idea of anarchy wasn't some harmonious commune but rather Mad Max, and that was cool and good to him and why he had to beat and rape his kid, to prepare them for that. Sure capitalism caused a chunk of this poo poo but boy is there a lot of layers to this horrible cake of a person other than that. Dude was super broken and super evil in lots of horrible ways that she's still trying to reconcile in her head over a decade and a half later.
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Colonel Cancer posted:And now, Brexit! This is what socialized medicine leads to, do you really want that in americcuh? honestly america voting to leave the eu in solidarity with britain, despite not being a member, would be pretty funny
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i just got glasses for the first time as an adult. my wife and i have vision insurance, but i couldn't find anyone near me that took it. Anyway, $120 for an exam and a pair of cheap internet eyeglasses, i can see! huzzah! but that's not really my capitalism story today. because i can now see things like words on small roadside signs, i noticed for the first time this morning a small political yard-sign-sized ad stating "we buy diabetic test strips" like "we but gold" or "we buy houses." this leads me to conclude that the strips cost way too loving much and that people aren't just rationing their insulin in this hell country
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Eat This Glob posted:i just got glasses for the first time as an adult. my wife and i have vision insurance, but i couldn't find anyone near me that took it. Anyway, $120 for an exam and a pair of cheap internet eyeglasses, i can see! huzzah! but that's not really my capitalism story today. If you live near one America's Best is pretty solid for uninsured vision. Even if you don't plan to get them it's $100 to join the contact club which gets you three years of appointments and 10% off contact purchases.
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HorseLord posted:i'm really getting tired of error 502 lol if you let forum errors stop you from  ing
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I would be up for a modified UBI somewhat. Say, expanding Social Security to cover people who lose their jobs to automation. I'm sure if you passed Yang style UBI right now it would have positive effects in the short term--as they have shown in every pilot project, simply because the middle class is fatigued and putting any money back into it helps. But it would be a sugar rush. After a few short years, rising cost of living and stagnant wages would eat the gains.
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That...the article posted:Toxic Foam jfc 
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holy loving poo poo thats cyperpunk dystopia as hell. it looks like a movie set!
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https://twitter.com/nprbusiness/status/1191809040621305856quote:According to an analysis by executive compensation experts Equilar, Easterbrook's exit package totals $41.8 million, which includes six months of severance pay, shares he can cash out in the future and other equity. And that sum is in addition to $23.8 million in stock options that Easterbrook can exercise now.
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Makes sense that one guy gets 50 million dollars for *checks notes* getting fired?
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if you dont promise a large severance package when firing someone for violating company guidelines how can you attract top talent
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Hodgepodge posted:e: it's probably worth mentioning that the nuclear family is a new experiment even for capitalism, that's why it's called "nuclear." it mostly exists to drive consumerism, ie maximizing the necessary amount of homes, vehicles, etc. two pages back but lmao
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duz posted:if you dont promise a large severance package when firing someone for violating company guidelines how can you attract top talent Article says he was fired over an inappropriate work relationship. Clearly, McDonalds is simply staying true to the ancient Babylonian system of justice: "eye for an eye". In this case, package for package.
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Feral Integral posted:holy loving poo poo thats cyperpunk dystopia as hell. it looks like a movie set! Specifically Stalker
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Show milky foams.
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:two pages back Let's leave it there.
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"Perhaps we should improve society somewhat" I say as a corrosive mass of toxic foam lumbers through the city streets like The Blob.
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What did he really do that was terrible enough that it couldn't just be swept under the rug?
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:I'm convinced any UBI program tried in this country will instantly fail because it will just be sucked up by landlords. this is what I'm saying when I say poo poo like 'bernie is cool but lacks a material analysis'. the fundamental problem is that we have rich people, whether we're talking millionaires or billionaires or business owners or landlords or even some weirdo renting tools out of the back of a pickup is completely inconsequential. they own private property and its inherently destabilizing and bad for society and like a cancer, nothing will ever be right until its gone
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Sanders is a standard social democrat, he's not going to upset capitalism. He's just notable because the US is so right-wing in general.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:What did he really do that was terrible enough that it couldn't just be swept under the rug? relationship with a subordinate
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Lambert posted:Sanders is a standard social democrat, he's not going to upset capitalism. He's just notable because the US is so right-wing in general. Sanders is the compromise candidate.
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Forceholy posted:Sanders is the compromise candidate.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:What did he really do that was terrible enough that it couldn't just be swept under the rug? If it was anything like the Intel CEO who stood down for the same reason, and got a similar severance package. Sleeping with a subordinate was just a weapon his internal rivals used to force him out. Easiest way to climb the corporate ladder is to sabotage those standing in your way.
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lancemantis posted:remember when google glass was pretty much just an excuse for Sergey to gently caress his mistress and then it blew up in his face but nobody seemed to care anymore after a short while and it all just kind of faded lmao I don't know about any of this, got a quick synposis?
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lancemantis posted:remember ... google glass nope
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:lmao I don't know about any of this, got a quick synposis? http://valleywag.gawker.com/meet-the-google-founders-mistress-1219044247 Basically he was loving the marketing manager for glass
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