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Cillizza and Russillo have the same consanant-vowel pattern. In this essay, I will show that nobody should ever listen to either of them.
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Declan MacManus posted:afaik the “stick to sports” mandate was really about not criticizing g/o’s internal practices especially w/r/t advertising (which, by the way, does make every gmg website a fuckin nightmare to read) Classic Rock, Ranked was a pretty classic Deadspin blog. One of the writers has mentioned before that any time they talk about something in Slack for more than 20 minutes, they blog about it to justify it as “work.” That’s also why they would occasionally just post a cool YouTube video and go “look at this poo poo!”
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habeasdorkus posted:It's entirely possible that Maidment was just loving terrible at his job, couldn't get Spanfeller to budge on the stick to sports thing because Spanfeller is a constantly falling upwards failson, and quit because gently caress dealing with this poo poo and blowback that he was too inept to understand and prevent. One thing in the Hang Up and Listen episode is that Greenwell protected her staff from a LOT of poo poo on the "Stick to Spurtz" front, so that they weren't fully aware of how hard it was coming down from above. It’s not their money. They use other people’s money to buy an entity; if it booms for a couple years, they clean out the revenue for themselves; when it goes bankrupt, they don’t personally lose a nickel; the entity dies and they jaunt away, whistling, with their loot. On to the next!
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R.D. Mangles posted:You can read it with a free "basic" subscription. Oh. I have one of those! Eric the Mauve posted:It’s not their money. They use other people’s money to buy an entity; if it booms for a couple years, they clean out the revenue for themselves; when it goes bankrupt, they don’t personally lose a nickel; the entity dies and they jaunt away, whistling, with their loot. On to the next! I mean, yeah, but it's no way to run a railroad... Wait, no, that's also how they ran railroads.
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Nov 6, 2019 15:27
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Vertical Lime posted:as bad as that is wish this was just a way to get some big time maga-chud heat but in reality Jericho likely sees himself as a Joe Rogan podcaster who is "just asking questions" and providing a "platform for different ideas." I love Jericho but the only episode I really enjoyed was the one with the Flat Earther (not Kyrie, some guy who made videos). That was good poo poo.
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euphronius posted:Noo Execute episode 66
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Declan MacManus posted:afaik the “stick to sports” mandate was really about not criticizing g/o’s internal practices especially w/r/t advertising (which, by the way, does make every gmg website a fuckin nightmare to read) I vaguely remember when Greenwell left, Magary mentioned what happened to Kissing Suzy Kolber once Uproxx took it over - that could be why the staffers put up such a fight, given KSK's connection to Deadspin. It was probably Spanfeller's goal - a boring site with steady traffic. The X-man cometh fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 6, 2019 |
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Nov 6, 2019 18:04
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The X-man cometh posted:I vaguely remember when Greenwell left, Magary mentioned what happened to Kissing Suzy Kolber once Uproxx took it over - that could be why the staffers put up such a fight, given KSK's connection to Deadspin. Spanfeller's goal was to become ESPN, because he is insane
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Nov 6, 2019 18:24
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Just realized we’ll never get to see Gruden’s final shade of red. How tragic.
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Vertical Lime posted:as bad as that is God drat you, Chris Jericho. You really are Judas.
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Declan MacManus posted:afaik the “stick to sports” mandate was really about not criticizing g/o’s internal practices especially w/r/t advertising (which, by the way, does make every gmg website a fuckin nightmare to read) Advertisers don't like auto play video, auto play videos are used to falsely increase impressions and bilk advertisers with fake statistics.
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Dinosaurs! posted:Just realized we’ll never get to see Gruden’s final shade of red. How tragic. Ahem 
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seiferguy posted:Ahem this was legit one of their best running gags
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A valuable resource https://twitter.com/AlbertBurneko/status/1192166930163077128
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BWV posted:wish this was just a way to get some big time maga-chud heat but in reality Jericho likely sees himself as a Joe Rogan podcaster who is "just asking questions" and providing a "platform for different ideas." I love Jericho but the only episode I really enjoyed was the one with the Flat Earther (not Kyrie, some guy who made videos). That was good poo poo. i noticed some episodes have roganesque guests so i shouldn't be that surprised still sucks tinstaach posted:A valuable resource already over 10,000 followers
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Vertical Lime posted:as bad as that is Jesus Christ, Jericho, get off the sauce. You are puffier than you've ever been. Your gut is thisclose to popping off buttons from your shirt.
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habeasdorkus posted:
They still run them that way.
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my favorite dumb bill simmons quirk is that he's still putting "2.0" on everything even though no one has used that in at least 5 years which is 8 eternities in internet years
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Chris Jericho talking about how scary chimps are. https://twitter.com/genna_buck/status/1192071690865594368 I would blow Dane Cook fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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Nov 7, 2019 04:08
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R.D. Mangles posted:my favorite dumb bill simmons quirk is that he's still putting "2.0" on everything even though no one has used that in at least 5 years which is 8 eternities in internet years Has he unveiled Nephew 2.0 yet?
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i sincerely wish bill simmons still wrote columns, i genuinely enjoyed reading them and just cackling at his weird-rear end takes
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R.D. Mangles posted:i sincerely wish bill simmons still wrote columns, i genuinely enjoyed reading them and just cackling at his weird-rear end takes He was a funny and engaging writer even (especially?) when he was stupid which was most of the time
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R.D. Mangles posted:i sincerely wish bill simmons still wrote columns, i genuinely enjoyed reading them and just cackling at his weird-rear end takes He was legitimately really good in the early 2000s when all he did was watch sports and write columns
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BWV posted:Jericho likely sees himself as a Joe Rogan podcaster w "Have you tried DDT?"
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R.D. Mangles posted:i sincerely wish bill simmons still wrote columns, i genuinely enjoyed reading them and just cackling at his weird-rear end takes The Glumslinger posted:He was legitimately really good in the early 2000s when all he did was watch sports and write columns unironically looked forward to the trade deadline column every year when i was a teenager and still think “Theo Ratliff’s Expiring Contract” is a clever bit that sort of lampooned asset driven management before that was really a thing
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Simmons also turned out to have a really good eye for writing talent, Grantland was packed with fantastic writers who did excellent work. For all the, mostly deserved, stick he gets he's still got a solidly positive Writer Above Replacement stat for his career.
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Nov 7, 2019 13:32
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Does Bill have a Kevin Smith-esque "midlife crisis, become obsessed with weed" phase coming on, or is he already there and just keeping it to himself?
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General Dog posted:Does Bill have a Kevin Smith-esque "midlife crisis, become obsessed with weed" phase coming on, or is he already there and just keeping it to himself? He talks about weed a lot The Glumslinger posted:He was legitimately really good in the early 2000s when all he did was watch sports and write columns Those columns are all really loving bad, it just seemed fresh at the time because it was a perspective people weren't writing from for major outlets. I think his page 2 archive is still around, you can check them out. They suck. It's the bad opinions he has always had coupled with the same four or five jokes and references over and over and over
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Nov 7, 2019 15:38
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MourningView posted:He talks about weed a lot It's not s new thing, either, he's talked a couple times in his NBA book and columns about how he took a year off from school to be a bartender and how he smoked a ton of weed during that time Of course, it's Simmons, so that probably means he smoked, like, a couple joints
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MourningView posted:Those columns are all really loving bad, it just seemed fresh at the time because it was a perspective people weren't writing from for major outlets. I think his page 2 archive is still around, you can check them out. They suck. It's the bad opinions he has always had coupled with the same four or five jokes and references over and over and over I took a memory-lane stroll through his old page 2 archive a few months ago, and yeah this is basically right, sorry to say.
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Nov 7, 2019 16:22
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Eric the Mauve posted:I took a memory-lane stroll through his old page 2 archive a few months ago, and yeah this is basically right, sorry to say. I did the same maybe a year ago, and  It actually made me kind of embarrassed to remember just how closely I followed his work back then.
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I mean the alternative at the time was Rick Reilly or local writer pieces and just upscaling the pop culture references by twenty years was a godsend. (oh word, you can compare a sports thing to an 80's movie instead of a 60's rock band?). He's been lapped since, but at the time, I'd argue his style was novel and welcome.
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Kalli posted:He's been lapped since, but at the time, I'd argue his style was novel and welcome. e: He was also very early on the analytics train, at a time when most sportswriters were more "you can't measure a player's HEART with a spreadsheet, nerdlinger"
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FMguru posted:e: He was also very early on the analytics train, at a time when most sportswriters were more "you can't measure a player's HEART with a spreadsheet, nerdlinger" What? He got mad about it in baseball all the time back when he still wrote about that and still regularly throws a fit if someone brings up stats that contradict any basketball opinion he formed while watching the three NBA games a year he watches now E: he called Robert Horry one of the like 80 best basketball players of all time in his book MourningView fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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Yeah Simmons has warts and almost nothing looks good when viewed through the lens of history but let’s not undersell how novel and welcome he was. Unfortunately I can map out a web in my mind that shows how the seismic shift in sports coverage he caused/vanguarded resulted in Barstool Sports, so in the end he sucks rear end and deserves death.
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Nov 7, 2019 16:57
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Simmons (and others on the internet at the time) shifted the discourse away from game stories and human interest pieces towards more casual, sports radio-esque and fan-centric sports argument—and because it was more casual, it naturally brought in things like gambling, fantasy, and pop culture. In that sense he used a lot of stats (rudimentary and probably incorrect now) to prove why team/player X was better than team/player Y. Although this type of column seems obvious now (I mean it's basically just blogging), this was a pretty big shift in that you'd rarely see the older generation of writers actually take up space in a printed magazine to tell you that the 2001 Lakers might have lost to the 1996 Chicago Bulls.
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FMguru posted:He was the first major sportswriter to incorporate changes in the ways people engaged with sports (through gambling, fantasy leagues, video games, and having strong opinions about sports announcers, among other things), which made his writing seem much more relatable than the traditional sportswriter's Olympian-voice-from-nowhere approach. This part was what did it for me. Fantasy was sorta gaining traction but the fact that he'd talk about a guy being a Madden-all-star or give gambling advice for a sports fan(not a gambling addict) really made him stand out. I'd still argue he's a very easy writer to read, even if his opinions were bad and his writing devices were very redundant and shallow. FMguru posted:e: He was also very early on the analytics train, at a time when most sportswriters were more "you can't measure a player's HEART with a spreadsheet, nerdlinger" I'm not sure I'd say this, although he did talk about analytics at a time when ESPN writers in particular wouldn't. Simmons was able to disagree with something but still write about, which was nice. So I'll give him credit for engaging with analytics even if he was a stuck in his ways.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Yeah Simmons has warts and almost nothing looks good when viewed through the lens of history but let’s not undersell how novel and welcome he was. It bothers me greatly that somewhere on the internet is a bad website that dumb people enjoy.
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MourningView posted:What? He got mad about it in baseball all the time back when he still wrote about that and still regularly throws a fit if someone brings up stats that contradict any basketball opinion he formed while watching the three NBA games a year he watches now
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General Dog posted:It bothers me greatly that somewhere on the internet is a bad website that dumb people enjoy. Considering their idiot readers harass my friends, egged on by Portnoy and company, it does bother me!
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Tater Love 