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Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

TheAgent posted:

gently caress Facebook. Delete your loving accounts

Is Facebook still a thing even? When I hear it my brain automatically translates it to MySpace or GeoCities.

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TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
I dunno all the pros I like are on twitter and snap

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
Sorry...switter

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

Rexzilla trying to look all intense but just looks tired

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012

Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

Rexzilla trying to look all intense but just looks tired

Someone get that man a Red Bull!

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT
So who is going to step up and be the main SC streamer now? Are WTFO and his grabby hands still streaming?

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

So, 3 years tops until this guy’s seated on an empty pool table cry-emoting stoically?

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Strangler 42 posted:

So who is going to step up and be the main SC streamer now? Are WTFO and his grabby hands still streaming?

Serious non drunk answer: whoever CI decides to pay next

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

TheAgent posted:

Serious non drunk answer: whoever CI decides to pay next

It's me, I'm the next big SC streamer

Instead of chugging Red Bull, tho, it's gonna be Evan Williams

MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

Quavers posted:

CIG's 12 month marketing contract expired:

https://twitter.com/Rexzilla/status/1190366887600951301



Since Rexzilla's move to Facebook Gaming on Nov 1st, he's only streamed the new Call Of Duty

:laffo: Where was this batshit crazy shitizen long post about how organic all this fan base growth was?

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Foo Diddley posted:

It's me, I'm the next big SC streamer

Instead of chugging Red Bull, tho, it's gonna be Evan Williams

Finally, a star citizen streamer I can relate to!

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development




"To see what FPS is like, go watch RexZilla!" :negative:

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Time_pants posted:

Someone get that man a Red Bull!

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

MedicineHut posted:

:laffo: Where was this batshit crazy shitizen long post about how organic all this fan base growth was?

G0rf posted it iirc

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

MedicineHut posted:

:laffo: Where was this batshit crazy shitizen long post about how organic all this fan base growth was?

Via Reddit message to G0rf:

Jade Starwatcher posted:

So i had never heard of you or the forum you post on until someone sent me a link where you were talking about me. Then i saw you have become fascinated by the rise of Rexzilla "seemingly out of nowhere." and the Alex Jones-esque conspiracy theories of him being a paid marketer by CIG's due to an investment in marketing Squadron 42.....

It's almost funny how wrong you have it.

Here are the main reasons:

First of all Rexzilla isn't new to Star Citizen, he backed the game around the same time i did back in 2016 and was a member of an org called Aces High (ACESHI). I know this because my previous org (which i co-founded) used to fight them at Security Post Kareah. So he isn't new, he played the game in 2016 and 2017 but didnt stream it and took a break from it because peformance was poor and all we had were a few on foot PvP areas. He's not a pilot, the FPS aspect of the game appealed to him.

He like me never played any of Chris Roberts old games. i was born in 1995. You should not hold this against me or anyone else who didn't know who Chris Roberts was until they discovered Star Citizen. There are a lot of us and we are a fast growing part of the Star Citizen community.

There is growing new guard due to a perfect storm. The game being playable due to client-side OCS and new game features and environments has brought in a lot of new people. In my case i only became a backer after a woman told me in a Second Life group voice chat that procedural planets were going to be a thing (she sent me a link to the Homestead Demo) and that playable female characters were coming soon with both likely to make an appearance in 3.0 (i know right!?). Knowing nothing of the delays SC has had i enthusiastically pledged in Dec 2016 for an Aurora starter package. Today we have OCS, FPS AI (derpy as it is, its something), 2 landable planets, 9 landable moons and landable planetoid with ourposts, stations even cities with trains and stuff. And i finally get to play with a character which represents me making it all finally immesive. This probably doesn't surprise you but friends i have who are also female and game have held off until they could play with a female character.

Some older streamers and backers see any change as scary and this influx of newer, often younger backers is disruptive to what the Star Citizen community has traditionally been since the Kickstarter.

The reason Rexzilla gets the huge audience he does are because he offers something none of the old guard offered:

a) A positive attitude taking advantage of the sandbox, sci-fi space sim we have today rather than theorycrafting and wishing for what we might have in the future.

So many of the Star Citizen streamers fall into a "negative nancy" mode. i totally get why they're like this, because for most of their streaming life there was no playable game. Old habits die hard and now that there is one its hard for them to break out of this. Instead of taking Chris Roberts seriously when he has repeatedly stated Star Citizen would be a sort of Space Second Life, they spend time talking about delays on gameplay mechanics even though we have cargo and mining.

b) Accessibility. Most of the older Star Citizen streamers have had an air about them of "I'm the streamer, you watch me but that's it." In other words, they kept a wall between themselves and people who might want to join in with what they're doing. Rexzilla has taken the opposite approach, he welcomes everyone to play with him and have epic experiences as a group. i am part of ZDF as well as my own org and i can tell you, we're not actors. We do some light roleplay but we're all there to have a good time. Part of that is following instructions but you have that in any org. My org did the same type of ops on a regular basis, we didn't stream them but they do require willing participants, clear comms and clear leadership. Its the same in the ZDF. Whether we are part of the ground forces or support and combat pilots (those ships you see on his streams are often there to protect the op against stream snipers, i know because i took one down in my Glaive).

c) Personality. Sorry but many of the older guard remind me of my dad trying to play games in the way they interact with the audience. Its boring, even when they are doing something midly interesting because they just don't have the energy or hype level Rex does.

Fear of the new leads to salt. You've seen it and commented on it with reactions to Rex's rise. i've seen it personally on a much smaller level as some people who are fans of TheBase radio station have attacked The Peoples Radio (TPR), the immersive, Star Citizen station i started. Older backers have thrown shade at us even though we're doing something quite different than TheBase in terms of content and our target demographics (newer and younger backers and a more diverse audience in general). This some of this low level salt among older fans of TheBase goes on even though Juntau from TheBase and i get along great and respect each other. In fact he recently had some very nice things to say about us and our quick rise on The Captain's Table. CIG loves our weekly news program (we've been the Staff Pick in the Community Hub on CIG's site and they and even made me an MVP for it one week. Again, it's because we use the game to make immersive content now. Everything is content to us, een bugs. It's that kind of positive attitude the community has responded to both with us and Rexzilla (who gives us shoutouts from time to time).

ZDF as an org is bigger than Rexzilla. It's not just an org, its a movement. The ZDF does a lot of stuff on and off stream not involving Rexzilla. This ranges from Star Marine tournaments to participating in the 50 person pub craw i organized in Star Citizen. Most large orgs with charasmatic leaders would not have responded the way ZDF did when i put the idea out there seeking both security and participants. (i know this having interacted with them in the past). Rexzilla was reachable and their support of the event helped ensure it was success but they were one of like 5 smaller orgs who all contributed to that. We managed to fill a server with people all involved in the event on a day servers were going down left and right due to 30K errors related to an FPS AI mission. Wakapedia from CIG even came in at the end of the pub crawl and let us all in the Million Mile High Club in Area 18 making for more great content both on the stream and for TPR News.

So i guess what i'm saying is this is all organic growth of the game and a demographic change. i had a good conversation the other day on Discord with another content creator when this very subject came up. i asked her what she thought would happen as people who like and play Fortnite now start coming over to playing Star Citizen and she nearly spit her coffee out both because she knows its inevitable and the reaction will be a culture shock not unlike what you're seeing happening now with the emergence of Rex and the ZDF.

A game like this can not be successful based on old money and old salt alone. Too many older backers and streamers are jaded and what Rex has proven is that almost no one wants to watch endless negativity of what is missing from the game when the alternative is watching and/or participating in some epic, community created sandbox gameplay with the amazing locales, weapons and ships CIG has created.

PS: Yes i did buy $10K worth of ships during the height of the cryptocurrency boom the same amount of crypto i used back then is worth about $1500 today. The same foresight that helped me see that Ethereum would be something worth mining and holding on to at the end of 2015 (when it was $0.40 cents and helped me pursuade my boyfriend to start mining and trading before we sold when it went above $1,000 is the same foresight i've used in seeing the long view of this game's development.

Doing the former paid of my student loans. Doing the later will pay off in many years of fun. In some ways, it already has.

i hope this clears things up. i am fairly certain that what we are witnessing isn't some co-ordinated marketing campaign. it's the result of years of game development and an influx of new blood.

if you want, feel free to share this in its entirety.

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

Mirificus posted:

Via Reddit message to G0rf:

Good bot :v:

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4er7z0iVmyk

kilus aof
Mar 24, 2001

Quavers posted:

CIG's 12 month marketing contract expired:

https://twitter.com/Rexzilla/status/1190366887600951301



Since Rexzilla's move to Facebook Gaming on Nov 1st, he's only streamed the new Call Of Duty

Looks like there was a ZDF Con a few weeks ago. If Rexzilla does indeed not return to Star Citizen this was loving cold as he would have known at the time he was going to abruptly leave.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ZDFCON

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Quavers posted:

CIG's 12 month marketing contract expired:

https://twitter.com/Rexzilla/status/1190366887600951301



Since Rexzilla's move to Facebook Gaming on Nov 1st, he's only streamed the new Call Of Duty

Oh dear... Somebody needs to break it to JadeStarWatcher...

EDIT: Dammit Mirificus scooped me while I was digging up the old hyperlink! :)

chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever

What's a Rexzilla?

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

kilus aof posted:

Looks like there was a ZDF Con a few weeks ago. If Rexzilla does indeed not return to Star Citizen this was loving cold as he would have known at the time he was going to abruptly leave.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ZDFCON

Well, there definitely was a con going on, I'll say that much.

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
drunk answer: if you like, like haven't realised yet that CIG will gently caress you over at the first opportunity, that they will gently caress you out of money not only owed but promised, that they will make and break any promise given or supposed, thus they will do anything -- absolutely anything -- to make a dollar, you are straight up loving stupid and and and, like, this isn't for just the players, Morty, no, no, but but but, I mean BACKERS, Morty, the backers, it's for for the loving SPONSORS Morty, the loving SPONSORS are getting hosed, like a zabazian porno Morty they they they are getting their flongdargs turbofucked into the next gungflarg, and and and the thing is the thing is THEY LOVE IT Morty, they they they love getting their flongdargs played with and and it's loving crazy Morty, and see, the whole thing see, was was just, look. Look at me, Morty. I'm gonna need to have you shove this print out of an Idris deep in your rear end Morty, just like wrapped around your prostate, because because the gray market wants this so BAD, their vivgolks are moist here, and and and just get it up there and pledge more Morty pledge more because if we don't we are gonna be sucking duplawinks in Hell

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

Rexzilla has been live for the past half-hour and he's apparently doing COD:MW, SC, COD:MW.

So mostly COD with maybe a tiny bit of SC squeezed in there to meet contractual obligations?

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

I sincerely wish Rex luck though, the man is a pro streamer. I'm glad he got to siphon some money from these idiots for a year.

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
Also that took me way too long on this earnout call

So I was supposed to get like 80k+ from the sale of the company

I am now getting 900 dollars

gently caress capitalism lol

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

chaosapiant posted:

What's a Rexzilla?

quote:

REXSHILLA

With a butt rock aura and a baritone growl
He’s making the Citizen streamers howl

Hapless players with subpar game
Howl in fury as he reveals their shame
He dominates Twitch whenever he streams
He’s climbed to the top by destroying their dreams

Oh no, he’s raking in the dough,
Go go Rexshilla!
Oh no, where’d my viewers go?
Go go Rexshilla!

Oh no, they say he stole the show,
Go go Rexshilla,
Oh no, I don’t know where to go.
Go go Rexshilla!

History shows again and again
how folly points out the nature of men
Rexshilla!

Oh no, he’s chasing Facebook dough,
Don’t go Rexshilla!

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

ErrEff posted:

Rexzilla has been live for the past half-hour and he's apparently doing COD:MW, SC, COD:MW.

So mostly COD with maybe a tiny bit of SC squeezed in there to meet contractual obligations?

Yeah I don't buy that he's stopped playing SC entirely, as he is a true believer, but I wouldn't bet on it being his focus after this change. There's literally no mention of SC on the Facebook page aside from that description.

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

ErrEff posted:

Rexzilla has been live for the past half-hour and he's apparently doing COD:MW, SC, COD:MW.

So mostly COD with maybe a tiny bit of SC squeezed in there to meet contractual obligations?

First you have some fun, they you get your spreadsheets out and try to organize 50 or so guys onto one server without having lag issues or desyncs or random crashes to do some scripted "gameplay" that you have to chop up and edit into something watchable, then you have some fun.

kilus aof
Mar 24, 2001

ErrEff posted:

Rexzilla has been live for the past half-hour and he's apparently doing COD:MW, SC, COD:MW.

So mostly COD with maybe a tiny bit of SC squeezed in there to meet contractual obligations?

I looked at his video from yesterday, he had an hour and half of Star Citizen sandwiched by COD.

And his stream today is sitting around 20 viewers.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

TheAgent posted:

Also that took me way too long on this earnout call

So I was supposed to get like 80k+ from the sale of the company

I am now getting 900 dollars

gently caress capitalism lol

Man, that truly sucks.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010









Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

G0RF posted:

Oh dear... Somebody needs to break it to JadeStarWatcher...

EDIT: Dammit Mirificus scooped me while I was digging up the old hyperlink! :)

:laffo:

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

TheAgent posted:

Also that took me way too long on this earnout call

So I was supposed to get like 80k+ from the sale of the company

I am now getting 900 dollars

gently caress capitalism lol

this isn't a joke btw. If you spend a dozen years sacrificing your life and weekends and time and energy into a company, this is what you get. $800. Btw my department was the focus of the sale, which got liquidated and sold to our only rival company in the world. In the loving world lol

gently caress all these people lol

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

TheAgent posted:

this isn't a joke btw. If you spend a dozen years sacrificing your life and weekends and time and energy into a company, this is what you get. $800. Btw my department was the focus of the sale, which got liquidated and sold to our only rival company in the world. In the loving world lol

gently caress all these people lol

Sorry dude, that really does suck :saddowns:


On a happier note, CIG are hiring!

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
I mean we literally just sent our last invoice for $800k. We made more than anyone else and our department was 2.5 FTEs. $858. Jesus Christ.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


that will buy a really nice jpg though. silver linings

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development
Star Citizen Monthly Report October 2019

:trustme: We kick off October’s report with the AI Character Combat Team, who spent time iterating on NPC aiming. They simplified the ability to control if and when they want the lower body turning while aiming at a target and improved the way aim-tracking works. This makes it easier to determine when the movement should blend slowly or snap quickly. They also fixed a look-target synchronization bug that was causing general issues.

On the behaviors side, they improved cover selection during combat by introducing new ways to weight cover locations based on target direction. NPCs can now choose between using a weapon’s predefined fire mode or actively selecting auto, burst, or single shot. They added more wild lines and flavor to the behaviors too, such as NPCs taunting a target before they start investigating.

Ship AI moved the first pass of their new 3D pathfinding functionality into the main game-development branch. This approach is based on a non-canonical A* implementation that uses the signed distance field (SDF) to incrementally compute a path in a 3D environment. Progress is currently being made on the first version of 3D ORCA implementation and is getting close to a first working version.

A new way for the designers to request that a ship follow a ‘spline’ (a tunnel that guides a ship’s movement rather than a prescriptive track) was exposed. At runtime, the calculation automatically adjusts the tunnel size based on the environment and the information reported by the SDF. They also added new nodes to monitor target distance and the vehicle’s relative state and make decisions according to the reported values.

Social AI optimized the ‘usable search’ function and are now able to cache the location of usables on the navmesh. This means they don’t have to constantly recalculate the time an object is static in one location. They also continued the unification of operator and generic seats so that behaviors can utilize them regardless of height.

Implementation of generic vendors continued, which employs usables that can ‘provide’ or ‘accept’ specific object types. This allows designers to create many different object types. For example, drinks bartenders can offer to patrons. They’re currently progressing on the patrol functionality that defines paths for AI to follow. This path will carry information on which types of logic to activate while hitting the different path nodes.

Regarding core services, the team now have navmesh support on planetary locations and are moving towards a more dynamic creation of navigation data on planet surfaces. They’re also working on different bug fixes and optimizations, including multithreading the AI audio component to enable them to process audio events quicker on the servers.




Bartender hype! :woop:

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
Guess I gotta lay off the sex workers to pay for this wedding. Btw also took a 40k/year pay cut to work here.

Just goddamn. Just goddamn.

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Awesome! posted:

that will buy a really nice jpg though. silver linings
Fair nuff

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Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



https://twitter.com/TheAstroPub/status/1192203818747994112

Maybe CitCon will be a LARP event, or like those historical tourist trap towns in the US, where everyone acts like it's the 1800s or whatever - except this will be in the year 2949.

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