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New Mutants was fun. They seem much more back to their OG personalities, and it's again super nice for Wolfsbane to not be dead. Especially Magik who is much more fun when she's snarkier. Amusingly it does kind of retroactively make a scene in X-Men a little weird, but it's a good time. X-Force is fine. Like it's mostly set up and things happen but it's not bad (When did Karma lose a leg?)
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 15:20 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 13:34 |
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New Mutants was pretty great, but it's always been my favorite team so I'm biased. If Excalibur brought back Jamie Braddock, then Mad Jim Jaspers is probably on Krakoa somewhere. That's spooky.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 15:29 |
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New Mutants is visually gorgeous. The pencils and the colouring are stupendous - the pencils have this classic comics look, very rounded, striking, friendly figures, but then the painting over the top of them makes everything dreamy and modern. The scene with Doug and Mondo's a great example. Doug straight up looks like Johnny Quest on a linework level, and then the paints add layers of shading and overrun the lines to make that clean, iconic figure into a more visually rich and complex one. Rod Reis is doing all the art on this, on checking the credits, and he's nailing it.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 15:51 |
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X-force I've been warming up to this thing about Krakoa being the ultimate safe haven that mutants could escape to after all the poo poo they've been through the years. Could we not have gone longer than a month before the defenses are breached, hilariously easily I might add, and people get blown apart?
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 16:09 |
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Laughing Zealot posted:X-force While overall, I thought it was an decent introductory issue with an interesting undercurrent, the "shocking twist" at the end is cause for concern, as it retreads the same sort of problematic narrative ground that the X-Men just escaped for simple shock value. It's pretty clear that this twist will be undone or shown to be a fakeout. Re: New Mutants The art was gorgeous, though it does surprise me that this group isn't being used for the Excalibur plot. I've always thought the New Mutants work best in fantasy or high fantasy settings. hexate fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Nov 6, 2019 |
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Well, New Mutants is delightful. I’m in the middle of a reread of the OG series and this just feels like such a perfect return to form, without Bobby being a total dickhead 100% of the time.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 17:03 |
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(X-Force) I'm waiting for The twist to be: "Psychic barriers against two of the four most powerful Earth-born telepaths in the universe? You thought.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 17:20 |
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I marked out for the space lawyer reveal.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 17:29 |
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We already know that mutant resurrection is a standard process in Krakoa by now, so the meat of the story isn't about any particular death sticking or not. Rather, the story is more about what will be the meaning or consequences of what happened, even if the person easily returns to life.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 17:44 |
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I don't know who Reis is, but using him on New Mutants definitely gives that Sienkewicz vibe and it's loving great. Book looks fun, though I think all of these books will do better when they get past the expository poo poo explaining Krakoa. Is the "no thought bubbles" poo poo still an edict at Marvel? Or are they also not allowed to have omniscient narrator boxes? Because characters talking those things outloud is way worse.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 18:59 |
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Dawgstar posted:(When did Karma lose a leg?) During the Second Coming crossover, in a fight with Cameron Hodge.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 19:42 |
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Kudos to New Mutants for reminding me that Cyclops dad is a complete and utter poo poo.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 22:21 |
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Honestly I'm going to miss Roberto as a USAvenger. Him being master keikaku was fun as hell, to the point where I almost felt like he no longer belonged with all the X-Men/mutant stuff.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 23:12 |
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Gologle posted:Honestly I'm going to miss Roberto as a USAvenger. Him being master keikaku was fun as hell, to the point where I almost felt like he no longer belonged with all the X-Men/mutant stuff. Yeah, all that was excellent. I had a good, hearty laugh at him getting so easily duped by the rest of the gang.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 23:38 |
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I really, really enjoyed New Mutants. Hickman seems to have the heart of the team down already, and the art was beautiful. I wasn't as fond of X-Force, but I'll give it another issue, at least. I liked it better than Excalibur, if nothing else.
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# ? Nov 6, 2019 23:59 |
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Everything about New Mutants is tremendous and fills me with joy. Everything about X-Force seemed kinda boring, as has pretty much all X-Force runs I've ever bothered to read
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 00:07 |
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Skwirl posted:Kudos to New Mutants for reminding me that Cyclops dad is a complete and utter poo poo. Corsair: leaving kids to fend for themselves in a hostile world is his only move.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 00:28 |
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Endless Mike posted:I really, really enjoyed New Mutants. Hickman seems to have the heart of the team down already, and the art was beautiful. I wasn't as fond of X-Force, but I'll give it another issue, at least. I liked it better than Excalibur, if nothing else. Yeah, if you told me Claremont's New Mutants was one of Hickman's favorite books, I'd believe you.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 01:17 |
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What's up with Warlock? Is he just Doug's arm now or can we expect him to be back at any point?
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 01:20 |
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah, if you told me Claremont's New Mutants was one of Hickman's favorite books, I'd believe you. There's a reason Sunspot and Cannonball were on his Avengers team when they'd never really even been properly used in the X-Men books let alone been part of the larger Marvel Universe.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 01:55 |
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Yeah when he gave his top 5 it was Magneto, Emma, Sinister, Monet and then Bobby and Sam tied at 5.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 01:56 |
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lmao Corsair you fuckhole
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 02:07 |
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah when he gave his top 5 it was Magneto, Emma, Sinister, Monet and then Bobby and Sam tied at 5. Monet? Wow.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 02:10 |
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X-Force felt like the same kind of wheels-spinning mutant hating story that made the X-series feel so tired for so long before this
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Parallax posted:X-Force felt like the same kind of wheels-spinning mutant hating story that made the X-series feel so tired for so long before this I was slightly interested by the poo poo with Domino and whatever cabal she was among, but holy poo poo what an unexciting story of “super soldiers with guns + tech attack the XMen” Though I do think that those super soldiers have some of Dominos DNA (maybe literal skin? They all had white streaks on their body) in order to trick Krakoa Black Tom Cassidy: Avatar of Krakoa loving ruled too
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 03:26 |
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yeah, you know Xavier's going to be back up again. :| theres like stuff thats interesting to see but mostly a lot of stuff we've seen before.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 03:38 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:lmao Corsair you fuckhole I'm so glad that somebody remembered that Corsair is a giant rear end in a top hat, actually. It's a more interesting version of the character by far. New Mutants looks gorgeous. Really almost Sienkiewicz-esque in some spots, but in general it's a pretty tonally different style. It's really good.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 04:36 |
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Okay out of the first issues, X-Men, Marauders, New Mutants are pretty neat. Excalibur is a bit weird but who knows how that'll go. X-Force is the clunker of the group, being way way too much like stuff we've seen before. Who's the writer anyway? Detective Comics #35–36 (October–November 2014) "Terminal" (with John Paul Leon) Volume 7: Anarky (hc, 176 pages, 2016) collects Green Arrow Volume 6 #41–52 (with Patrick Zircher, June 2015–May 2016)[3] Green Arrow Volume 7 #1-38 (with Otto Schmidt and Juan Ferreyra, October 2016–March 2018) Teen Titans Volume 6 #1-20 (with Jonboy Meyers, Wade Von Grawbadger, and Khoi Pham, November 2016-July 2018) Volume 1: Damian Knows Best (sc, 144 pages, 2017) collects Volume 2: The Rise of Aqualad (sc, 128 pages, 2018) collects Volume 3: The Return of Kid Flash (sc, 152 pages, 2018) collects James Bond: Black Box #1-6 (March-August 2017) (with Rapha Lobosco) James Bond: Black Box (hc, 176 pages, 2017) collects Nightwing Volume 4 #44-50 (with Chris Mooneyham and Amancay Nahuelpan, July-December 2018) vOv
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 06:13 |
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I can see what people mean about X-Force. It's definitely just...we're less than one month into the new status quo and already mutant children are being shot in the head. Of course the extenuating caveat here is that they can all come back now, but still. C'mon. Issue number one. And also the the thing where there's apparently maneating monsters roaming Krakoa is like...look, I'm of course of the opinion that this new mutant paradise is more of a crazy sham than anything else, but making it so that they're apparently living on Danger Island just feels like forcing grunge and edginess into a status quo that was supposed to fix that sort of thing. Is Krakoa friendly to mutants or isn't it? It doesn't get to be both. We might as well put the school back in Limbo if that's the case. At least we get some new insight into how the operations are run, and hopefully we'll get more in-depth into the resurrection protocols as well now that baldy's bitten it. It might be as prosaic as "Jean pops him into a new body, the end," but maybe not.
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Maybe it’s an excuse to cause a problem surrounding Prof’s “back ups”
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 07:00 |
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New Mutants is one of the funniest comics I've read all year. Holy poo poo.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 07:35 |
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Blockhouse posted:New Mutants is one of the funniest comics I've read all year. Holy poo poo. All of the Summer kids various problems can be explained with "Corsair is a goddamned piece of poo poo."
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 07:56 |
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New Mutants whips rear end and I want 500 more pages of it. X-Force was a bit of an eye roller. Hopefully, next issue shows how meaningless these grimdark human terrorists attacks are when everyone gets revived.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 08:22 |
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I'll be for X-Force if it turns into Domino's team book.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 12:48 |
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I'm getting some real John McAfee vibes from Corsair
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 13:39 |
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I think the 'shocking' ending of X-Force has to be done purposely to elicit some of these reactions. Hickman has reiterated that mutant resurrection means death can't be used as a plot point and that there has to be stories beyond so-and-so is now dead. You can't have that sort of edict and then throw it out not even a month into your relaunch. Therefore, I think it's meant to be a wink at that sort of poo poo.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 14:10 |
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I can't help but keep thinking that yes, okay, mutant resurrection is totally a thing, but that don't mean that kid who saw her mom get shot in the face in front of her isn't gonna be in mad therapy for the rest of her life. Unless you have Xavier delete the memory, but that's its own can of worms.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 17:58 |
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Wanderer posted:I can't help but keep thinking that yes, okay, mutant resurrection is totally a thing, but that don't mean that kid who saw her mom get shot in the face in front of her isn't gonna be in mad therapy for the rest of her life. That memory would not have been backed up in the previous download sesh
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 18:24 |
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He’s talking the kids memory. Mom won’t remember getting shot, but the kid will remember she did. I‘ll give the book a couple more issues to get the team together, but this didn’t wow me. I’m really just waiting to see what Quire thinks of Krakoa. And I wonder what happened to baby Krakoa.
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Wanderer posted:I can't help but keep thinking that yes, okay, mutant resurrection is totally a thing, but that don't mean that kid who saw her mom get shot in the face in front of her isn't gonna be in mad therapy for the rest of her life. "A Can Of Worms" could the the title of Xavier's autobiography.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 19:21 |