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ATP_Power posted:Like isn't there a conversation in Children where they straight up talk about how Alia is planning to administer 3000 vaginal contractions a minute with her Bene-Gesserit training and like Jessica or Irulian tell her that she can't cause it would cause Duncan to brag about his wife to the Honored Matres?
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Honored matres are from heretics/chapterhouse Possessed Alia trying to live forever is children of dune plot
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drunkill posted:so The King is out on netflix and I am extremely super hype for Dune now. I watched (most of) this the other night and I'm on the fence about it. The medieval combat scenes are amazingly choreographed and so brutal to watch. The trebuchets were super cool to see, of course. But some of the effects could have been better - the execution scene, head-chopping CG looked a bit poor but it was still well-acted enough that it stuck with me - and casting Pattinson as the Dauphin (as decent an actor as he actually is) just felt wrong, like he was directed to be comedically villainous. As for Chalamet, I mostly agree - he's going to make an awesome Paul, his English accent was a bit cringey in this though.
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Riot Bimbo posted:Honored matres are from heretics/chapterhouse Read what I quoted again. Poking fun at how dirty old man ideas started flooding in the last two books.
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lol https://theplaylist.net/dune-sisterhood-loses-showrunner-20191105/
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The sisterhood is based on Brian's poo poo right? There's no God damned way that poo poo will be good if so
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Yep it is a vanity project that was part of the rights deal. It will be garbage.
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It's the equivalent of making a seperate cake for Homer to ruin.
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Which is a shame because there is potential with that concept
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Gaius Helen Mohiam’s Pussy Lip Contractions, a Cinemax production
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BGILF teaches step sister how to imprint Ghola boyfriend
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Nov 7, 2019 19:59
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Wasn't sure about Chalamet before because I don't know much about him but I just watched The King on Netflix and yeah, I think he's gonna make a drat good Paul.
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I think the most important trait is not really speechmaking, but rather a young actor that can convey a lot of emotion and purpose through silence and thoughtfulness. Paul spends a lot of time in silence...thinking, and considering the strange environment around him, and he's both empathetic and controlled. It's somewhere around Part 3 that he starts vocally rallying to a common purpose, but most of his arc in the story is careful consideration and plans within plans.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:I think the most important trait is not really speechmaking, but rather a young actor that can convey a lot of emotion and purpose through silence and thoughtfulness. Paul spends a lot of time in silence...thinking, and considering the strange environment around him, and he's both empathetic and controlled. It's somewhere around Part 3 that he starts vocally rallying to a common purpose, but most of his arc in the story is careful consideration and plans within plans. Yeah I agree. I was more concerned that the kid wouldn't believable as a warrior, but I think he'll be fine as Paul having seen the King. He pretty rough in that movie and it was good.
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This begs this question, how are they going to do internal monologues? More voice over? That's not considered good filmmaking these days, is it?
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Enkmar posted:This begs this question, how are they going to do internal monologues? More voice over? That's not considered good film-making these days. Spice will superficially work like coke in the movie. Internal monologues will be presented as coke-addled speeches. It works better than you might think at first.
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There are a lot of ways to do montage or impart things with visual abstraction, in addition to voiceover, especially when you have 4-5 hours to do it with. Each of these scenes imply and impart a lot with very little dialogue for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opDlMeqRACI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCiDUfhV43c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqte5WDUNWY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFx8KXkBMvM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBnNs9K__kE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-15g68F5IE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOKvtC4STL0 BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Enkmar posted:This begs this question, how are they going to do internal monologues? More voice over? That's not considered good filmmaking these days, is it? Little pop ups like when people text each other in shows on Netflix
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Did anyone do Dan and Marty Make a Porno yet?
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Rereading DUNE and I'm really bothered by the whole lasgun/shield interaction thing. Seems like it would be really easy for some putz to accidentally just nuke an entire city with just a stray shot and I feel like that would happen constantly. "Ok, troops, today we're doing target practice. Just let me turn on my shield WHOOPS—" Much ado is made of "house atomics" being kept secure but shields and lasguns are walking around all over the place where they could cross paths at any time.
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Applewhite posted:Rereading DUNE and I'm really bothered by the whole lasgun/shield interaction thing. Seems like it would be really easy for some putz to accidentally just nuke an entire city with just a stray shot and I feel like that would happen constantly. The power of the shield lasgun effect isn’t consistent — might level the city, might just kill you. Also shields don’t seem to be super widely used. Nobles have them but do the common soldiers?
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I think the idea is that shields have made pretty much all ranged weapons either ineffective or self-destructive, so 95% of warfare is hand-to-hand. Lasguns are specialized tools that are only used in special circumstances when the risk of interaction is very low.
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skasion posted:The power of the shield lasgun effect isn’t consistent — might level the city, might just kill you. Also shields don’t seem to be super widely used. Nobles have them but do the common soldiers? FBS posted:I think the idea is that shields have made pretty much all ranged weapons either ineffective or self-destructive, so 95% of warfare is hand-to-hand. Lasguns are specialized tools that are only used in special circumstances when the risk of interaction is very low. I feel like only one of these can be true. Either common soldiers all have shields and thus ranged weapons are ineffective or it's worthwhile still using machine guns because in a battle only the noblemen will be wearing shields and you can still mow down the house troops. The book is excellently crafted otherwise but I feel like the whole shield/lasgun thing opens a can of worms that could have easily been sidestepped by "lasgun beams bounce directly off shields into the shooter's face 100% of the time so don't bother with them" The "going nuclear" aspect just launches the whole thing into Star Wars's "hyperspace ram" debacle.
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At least twice in Dune people avoid using lasguns for fear of an interaction and the Atriedes plant a shield as a weapon on purpose. I don't remember anything that indicates that shields were rare or restricted to elites.
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I got the impression lasguns are very rarely used, and when they are more as tools than anything else, and shields have been ubiquitous for so long that gunpowder weapons are forgotten, especially if they've been in use since before the Jihad.
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FBS posted:At least twice in Dune people avoid using lasguns for fear of an interaction and the Atriedes plant a shield as a weapon on purpose. I don't remember anything that indicates that shields were rare or restricted to elites. Yeah exactly. Which means the possibility of it happening by accident should be really high.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I got the impression lasguns are very rarely used, and when they are more as tools than anything else, and shields have been ubiquitous for so long that gunpowder weapons are forgotten, especially if they've been in use since before the Jihad. So why did the Sardaukar even bring them? They seem to have been deployed pretty casually against Idaho's men which was what allowed Idaho to spring his trap. And Sardaukar are the galaxy's top warriors. If they can fall for it then how is Private Pyle gonna keep a steady hand with the thing?
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What was the thing the saudaukar used on Duncan in the movie? It penetrated the shield slowly then drilled into his head. Can't recall if it was in the book or just something non canon in the movie.
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priznat posted:What was the thing the saudaukar used on Duncan in the movie? It penetrated the shield slowly then drilled into his head. There are slow pellet guns in the book, which might have been what the movie was depicting.
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It's also a deterrent by possibility. Shields are hard to spot even if high end shields are nobles only. Better not risk shooting at this Sardaukar, what if he has a shield and we nuke half of Arrakeen? Also the retaliation with house atomics would possibly ensure mutually assured destruction.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:It's also a deterrent by possibility. Unless you're, I dunno, a suicidal fanatic who doesn't care about taking Arrakeen with him and has no love for the noble houses. Not like there are any jihadis running around on Arrakis who'd be more than happy to Allau Akhbar themselves especially if it meant killing a few Harkonnen.
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iirc the encyclopedia also states that the reaction can happen at the lasgun as well (quantum magic i guess) so nobody dares risk it
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The King pretty much confirmed Chalamet can pull off atreides. I feel like he was already playing Paul, except more cruel and foul tempered
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Malcolm XML posted:iirc the encyclopedia also states that the reaction can happen at the lasgun as well (quantum magic i guess) so nobody dares risk it In a universe of brainwashed ultra-fanatic soldiers with no sense of self-preservation I feel like that's a grossly over-optimistic assessment by the encyclopedia. Leaving aside Sardaukar and Fremen who would both be willing to sacrifice individual lives for the possibility of a high enemy body count, there's also Tleilaxu face-dancer assassins with their own schemes to consider.
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I got the impression that the lasguns were only being used widely in Arrakis because of the combination of sand worms making shield use impractical and the assumption that Fremen were primitive barbarians who could never afford such things. Then again maybe it was an example of Harkonnens being crazy/bold and was part of their plans within plans within plans. But then again again maybe it was poorly thought out space magic to make knife fighting very radical and not at all silly you guys
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Yeah, the point is that shields are ubiquitous everywhere else and lasguns are all but pointless and out of fashion everywhere else. Except on Dune, where everything is reversed and shields are what get you killed.
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Hi, welcome to Arrakis, the planet where combat is made up and the shields don't matter.
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It is repeatedly stated that Lasgun/shield interactions are skirting the edge of the Great Convention. Flagrant use of these interactions would probably be debated in the Landraad and Houses would fear their own vulnerability to such use and be motivated to prosecute such use. Also I feel that Lasguns are rarer than shields at least until after the Tyrant. exmachina fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Eumenides posted:But then again again maybe it was poorly thought out space magic to make knife fighting very radical and not at all silly you guys Very poorly thought out considering he could have just had lasguns as useless against shields as regular guns and thus still justified space swordfights.
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Applewhite posted:Very poorly thought out considering he could have just had lasguns as useless against shields as regular guns and thus still justified space swordfights. But the actual point is that shields are useless against FREMEN, my dude.
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