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Forceholy posted:Yeah, I'm getting that vibe as well. Dr. Manhattan could be a huge red herring. Petey did mention that she quoted Ozymandias after she revealed that huge structure in the middle of Tulsa after buying Veidt's company. For like a second I was rolling my eyes at someone unironically quoting the Shelley poem in a way that goes completely against the meaning of it and then I remembered that OZY Fest exists and that I overestimated humanity. 
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Sleeveless posted:For like a second I was rolling my eyes at someone unironically quoting the Shelley poem in a way that goes completely against the meaning of it and then I remembered that OZY Fest exists and that I overestimated humanity. “admittedly ours is a stupid and wrong interpretation - because that’s who we are”
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Sleeveless posted:For like a second I was rolling my eyes at someone unironically quoting the Shelley poem in a way that goes completely against the meaning of it and then I remembered that OZY Fest exists and that I overestimated humanity. Hahaha gross
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Imagine the poor marketer who has to justify the founder's misreading of that poem after the fact.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Hahaha gross This writeup for it is amazing, that specific kind of weird impotent flailing and rallying around vague broad concepts people were doing before the actual 2020 election started gearing up and they had actual candidates and platforms to rally around is such an odd cultural artifact despite only being last year. feedmyleg posted:Imagine the poor marketer who has to justify the founder's misreading of that poem after the fact. The actual About Us page that's from is even worse than you can imagine.
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Empress Brosephine posted:It’s amazing how well cast the watchman movie is...it’s too bad the actors aren’t age appropriate to play their counterparts in this shown
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Nov 6, 2019 18:13
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This reads like a fake web site on a comedy show like 30 Rock
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I've always thought that Ozymandias, the name, was one of the worst parts of Watchmen. I guess the message is that Veidt is so egotistical that he thinks he can redefine the meaning of the poem, but it just makes him look so obviously dumb.
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I mean, Ozymandias is extremely dumb. His whole plan is idiotic
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Nov 6, 2019 19:33
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The ones who named themselves were either consciously or unconsciously stating the problem they were trying to address. "The world is a sick joke", "the only meaning in the universe is the one we impose on it", "all our efforts are, in the long run, doomed"
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Ozymandias is the English poetic name for Ramses II—it wasn’t invented for the poem. I agree that you’re supposed to be thinking of the poem, but Veidt may just be egotistical enough to not be thinking of the poem.
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Nov 6, 2019 20:01
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Ramses II was even his super clever and secure computer password so yeah that tracks
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Speaking of Ozy and lack of security/safetey, I never really got the scene in the comics where Rorschach is talking to him in his office and there are giant open windows....high up in a skyscraper...in heavy rain.
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Nail Rat posted:Speaking of Ozy and lack of security/safetey, I never really got the scene in the comics where Rorschach is talking to him in his office and there are giant open windows....high up in a skyscraper...in heavy rain. there were open windows? maybe the movie is running together with the book in my mind
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Mandrel posted:there were open windows? maybe the movie is running together with the book in my mind Yeah, Rorschach had his grappling hook on a conveniently open window. In a rainstorm.
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Colonel Whitey posted:Ramses II was even his super clever and secure computer password so yeah that tracks Moore literally predicted people using admin as their password
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No, it's just the first volume.
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Gave it a fast spin on Apple Music and went ahead ordered the vinyl for volume 1. That packaging is super nice.
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nate fisher posted:Gave it a fast spin on Apple Music and went ahead ordered the vinyl for volume 1. That packaging is super nice. Where the heck did you find the vinyl version for sale?
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At first I hated Matthew Goode as ozy but I’ve come around to it because it makes him seem even more pathetic
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Excellent! Here's the Apple Music link.
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Nail Rat posted:Where the heck did you find the vinyl version for sale? Target still has it listed for preorder and accepted my order with a delivery date of next week. I am not 100% sure if it will happen (I’m telling myself glitch), but looks good so far. You never know if you don’t try.
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I found a link that worked on Amazon for a preorder. For some reason there are two vinyl pages listed. The one with the image shows not available, the other lets you preorder (but at this point, estimated ship date is not available because the first run is sold out) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z74G6ZQ/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Nail Rat posted:I found a link that worked on Amazon for a preorder. For some reason there are two vinyl pages listed. The one with the image shows not available, the other lets you preorder (but at this point, estimated ship date is not available because the first run is sold out) I didn't see that one. I only saw the one linked from the NIN store (which is sold out). I have a feeling the Target is either a placeholder for the second run. It also shows without the image which makes me a little worrisome. I didn't care for a second run, but I wanted it to be exactly like the first run. https://www.target.com/p/trent-reznor---watchmen--volume-1--ost---vinyl-/-/A-78786715
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I'm sure it will be exactly the same. So far Reznor has never done different colors or packaging for any distinct runs of releases. Amazon product pages can get pretty weird for highly in-demand products (see the NES classic)
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MoaM posted:The only Re: B - A pale blue dot? Could support the "Veidt's on Mars" theory. (Unless you mean more than one being visible at once - I've not gone and checked.)
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I'd like to add this thread is that A, the news-stand scene from last week's episode implies there are psychics (or a singular psychic or another psychic device) in Tulsa and B, there are prominent, slightly transparent blue dots in the sky of two of the outdoor Veidt scenes.
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KoRMaK posted:Why the gently caress would I care about the difference between a communist and a nazi, both dead ideologies when capitalism was doing so well for me ? This is the greatest post I’ve ever read
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The sister night actress is really good. The old lazy is terrible. I hate most of her dialogues and delivery. I imagine that's how Lindelof talk.
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Mandrel posted:I mean, Ozymandias is extremely dumb. His whole plan is idiotic Ozymandias was right. The world was moments away from nuclear Armageddon when his plan went through.
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Mike the TV posted:Ozymandias was right. The world was moments away from nuclear Armageddon when his plan went through. Yeah, the book makes it clear that Dr Manhattan had skewed the balance of MAD and America thought that since he was on their side, a nuclear exchange was winnable. Thing was, even if he gave enough of a poo poo to actually try to stop the nukes, it was unlikely that he would be able to.
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EmptyVessel posted:Re: B - A pale blue dot?   Supposed to look like lens flare but so many pieces of the puzzle fit that it's probably our man Doc.
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Mike the TV posted:Ozymandias was right. The world was moments away from nuclear Armageddon when his plan went through. Only because Dr. Manhattan left Earth, which was caused by Ozy's cancer scam, part of the plan. If he hadn't murdered most of Dr. Manhattan's associates there would be no crisis; the military would have either smoothed things over with Laurie or found a replacement. There may have been a long term danger, but the immediate crisis was entirely Veidt's fault and he thus can get no credit for averting it.
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Mike the TV posted:Ozymandias was right. The world was moments away from nuclear Armageddon when his plan went through. Thranguy posted:the immediate crisis was entirely Veidt's fault and he thus can get no credit for averting it. TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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Thranguy posted:Only because Dr. Manhattan left Earth, which was caused by Ozy's cancer scam, part of the plan. If he hadn't murdered most of Dr. Manhattan's associates there would be no crisis; the military would have either smoothed things over with Laurie or found a replacement. There may have been a long term danger, but the immediate crisis was entirely Veidt's fault and he thus can get no credit for averting it. Imagine what it would be like if, in real life, there were people out there tripping over their balls in the rush to give credit to some megalomaniac who created the very problems he claims to have fixed, with those "fixes" coming at enormous, terrible cost.
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TenementFunster posted:why not just ask Manhattan to rid the world of nuclear weapons? seems like a reasonable Plan A when Plan B is “kill millions with an psychic alien squid” I think Moore was aware of this plothole, one of the supplementary articles included at the beginning of the issues was focused partly on hand waving it. If I remember correctly it argued that the Russians would never willingly acquiesce to a foreign agent after the betrayal and dehumanization they received at the hands of the nazis, and a mass launch of thousands of ICBMs would be beyond even Manhattan's capability to prevent. 
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