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Eschenique posted:This caught me off guard because in the late 90s when a brand new phone was like $60 you could get a phone for free if you signed up for 2 years. you can get bottom tier prepaid flip and pseuso-smart phones for like $20, and some carriers will give you a crappy smartphone free with a data plan. you can also get old iphones for pretty cheap. paying $200+ for a phone is a status symbol, all the power of a miniature laptop in your pocket so you can be using the internet everywhere, all of the time!
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luxury handset posted:you can get bottom tier prepaid flip and pseuso-smart phones for like $20, and some carriers will give you a crappy smartphone free with a data plan. you can also get old iphones for pretty cheap. paying $200+ for a phone is a status symbol, all the power of a miniature laptop in your pocket so you can be using the internet everywhere, all of the time! Yeah it's just the process was so seamless that I think I was two $700 phones in before I realized it.
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Nov 6, 2019 18:40
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Walmart has a 'lowend' galaxy phone thats actually quite good; the only downside really is it only has 16gb of storage and I guess no fingerprint or nfc if you care about that. It's only like $70, prepaid plan is separate
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Nov 6, 2019 18:45
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Julio Cruz posted:except they’re even more expensive, you’re just not paying the cost all at once How? Every phone I've gotten has been at 0%. I suppose I'm losing pennies due to inflation.
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Nov 6, 2019 18:46
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Walmart has a 'lowend' galaxy phone thats actually quite good; the only downside really is it only has 16gb of storage and I guess no fingerprint or nfc if you care about that. It's only like $70, prepaid plan is separate My current phone is a 4 year old Sony and it's still going strong. In fact repair costs are going down. The price of a new screen (rip) halved. Maybe the spare parts inventory is really big?
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Nov 6, 2019 18:51
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Phones are both unaffordable and functionally free.
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Nov 6, 2019 21:12
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I've only ever gotten "new" phones (as in, an improvement over the previous) either as hand me downs (and thus used), or when I switched carriers and got the sign up discount.
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Nov 6, 2019 21:52
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New high-end flagship phones are expensive, but it's still possible to get a phone a couple generations older for free or $5/$10 a month. Which is a great counterpoint to bring up whenever someone brings up seeing a "welfare queen" using an iPhone.
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Nov 6, 2019 22:21
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Forceholy posted:A crazy amount of millennials and zoomers will sell out for a bit of wealth. The "They Live" effect.
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Ok Boomer
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Oh wait, one more.
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I agree, no performance is worth one million dollars, let alone many millions. We should seize that money to help our mentally ill veterans and provide affordable housing for the transient working class in large cities! The remainder could go to advertisements encouraging everyday folks to take pride in their own lives, cultures, and bodies instead of idolizing a parasitic class of extraordinarily lucky turncoats.
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borkencode posted:Oh wait, one more. True if you consider tax breaks for billionaires welfare. That said, the billionaire menu is.a.poor mans idea of how a rich.man eats
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Nov 7, 2019 03:12
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I'm not gonna lie if I ever inherit a billion dollars I'm donating most of it and living off the residual of the rest. And I'll eat Red Lobster biscuits for every meal.* *I assume rich people have some kind of cholesterol regulating nanorobots.
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Always a good one; ask people how much they think we spend on foreign aid, and how much we should be spending (they usually think we spend way more than we do, and think we should spend more than we actually do  )
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Nov 7, 2019 04:38
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welp bought a lobster, there goes the whole month.(lol at poo poo that doesnt happen) also jail would have spolied soylent level poo poo, while homeless might have some sort fastfood meal, while work would have a wide range of stuff depending of what kind of work, class , and area the worker has.,
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I'm from Minnesota, and I'm currently down in a Southern state for a company-wide training program. Every day that I've been on the road with a boomer coworker, as soon as I said I'm from Minnesota, they've launched into an anti-Ilhan Omar FW:FW:FW:FW rant. Like, no political subject was brought up previously, but as soon as I said "Minnesota" the floodgates opened. Marrying her brother, saying that 9/11 was no big deal, saying that she hates all white people, all the greatest hits. Three days in a row. I was caught off guard the first day, but after the initial ambush, I started pushing back, and as soon as I asked "where, exactly, are you getting this information?" they IMMEDIATELY changed subject. One of them mumbled something about "them" doing a lot of research, but didn't clarify. This afternoon, I got an ad on a random website with the text "SHOCKING! See the video that Ilhan Omar doesn't want you to see!" underneath a photoshopped picture of modern-day Omar smiling with a blurry shot of the burning Twin Towers in the background. I am so, so very tired.
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Nov 7, 2019 04:56
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PhazonLink posted:welp bought a lobster, there goes the whole month.(lol at poo poo that doesnt happen) That poo poo happens all the time. Persistent poverty creates a feast or famine mindset. Poor people deserve nice things and deserve to celebrate. Removing the "famine" part of the equation moderates "feast" part. Let people have what joys they can and work towards giving them more and sustained joys.
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Ashcans posted:Always a good one; ask people how much they think we spend on foreign aid, and how much we should be spending (they usually think we spend way more than we do, and think we should spend more than we actually do Whenever someone makes this argument, I like to ask why they're suddenly a big supporter of domestic welfare programs.
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Considering how much voting Americans have been doing in favor of not helping someone in order to help the veterans. The veterans must surely have been helped by now. I have an online friend who works for the Veteran assistance thing. And he says that it's not even a straight up funding issue. It's that they have too little staff to handle the sheer amount of bureaucracy between getting the money from the pile to the veterans that need it. But there's no effort made to increase staff or reduce bureaucracy. Of course you could also argue that this bureaucracy and the low staff count is to keep costs down which is probably true.
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Nov 7, 2019 05:48
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People say I am making up things but "Pentagonism" by Juan Bosch is a must read and discusses the utility of broken bodies to the MIC.
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Eschenique posted:Considering how much voting Americans have been doing in favor of not helping someone in order to help the veterans. The veterans must surely have been helped by now. This was true back when the VA was a scandal under Obama/Bush. People who were already in the system were fine and liked it. The issue was always that they couldn't handle the intake, and not shockingly, the problem became a lot less important when a Republican was in the White House. The problem was Bush created some huge wars, and then just didn't account for the fact that these new wars would mean new veterans.
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Nov 7, 2019 06:07
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The used phone market is insane. A note 9 is only $300 on swappa. Just lol if you ever pay retail for a phone.
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Shbobdb posted:That poo poo happens all the time. Persistent poverty creates a feast or famine mindset. Orwell posted:The miner’s family spend only ten pence a week on green vegetables and ten pence half-penny on milk (remember that one of them is a child less than three years old), and nothing on fruit; but they spend one and nine on sugar (about eight pounds of sugar, that is) and a shilling on tea. The half-crown spent on meat might represent a small joint and the materials for a stew; probably as often as not it would represent four or five tins of bully beef. The basis of their diet, therefore, is white bread and margarine, corned beef, sugared tea, and potatoes – an appalling diet.
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T-man posted:I'm not gonna lie if I ever inherit a billion dollars I'm donating most of it and living off the residual of the rest. And I'll eat Red Lobster biscuits for every meal.* It's not possible to ethically donate a billion dollars. That kind of money is going to attract so many scammers and grifters you'll end up wasting most of it rather than actually helping needy people. Theoretically giving it to the state could work, but you know, actually existing states aren't very interested in improving the general welfare. Coming into that kind of money suddenly is a loving curse for your morality.
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Orange Devil posted:It's not possible to ethically donate a billion dollars. That kind of money is going to attract so many scammers and grifters you'll end up wasting most of it rather than actually helping needy people. Theoretically giving it to the state could work, but you know, actually existing states aren't very interested in improving the general welfare. I don't know, donating it all to Planned Parenthood so no one in America would ever have to worry about the monetary cost of abortions would feel pretty great. duz fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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Donate it to me and I promise I will spend it well
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honestly i'd probably just wander around setting up non-profit housing schemes and giving it to food not bombs and use it to fund a leftist revolution from behind the scenes, with a billion it really isn't either/or.
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if you won a tremendous, 7+ figure sum in a lottery or something, the only way to not torpedo your life and the lives of people subject to your cruel generosity would be to put the money into trusts which pay out a fixed income every year and strict controls about how much of this money can be accessed for different purposes giving someone a guaranteed $100k yearly income would be difficult but managable, just dropping millions of dollars on a person would likely crush them. the same is true of large institutions just with larger piles of money
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Nov 7, 2019 16:01
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I'd still go to work if I won a billion dollars. Gives me structure and a place to be and people to see.
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T-man posted:honestly i'd probably just wander around setting up non-profit housing schemes and giving it to food not bombs the T stands for Totally Not Soros
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Raenir Salazar posted:I'd still go to work if I won a billion dollars. Gives me structure and a place to be and people to see. I go to work somewhere else. Or try to run my own business.
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yeah, my lottery fantasies involve taking a job i want to do rather than taking a job to earn enough money to support my family. i'd be a public school teacher for sure
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luxury handset posted:i'd be a public school teacher for sure I have frequent nightmares/stress dreams where I'm somehow desperate and have to go back to teaching high school math. No thanks. I'd probably just be a permanent student, though, and see how many degrees I can collect and different fields I can learn about before I die.
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luxury handset posted:yeah, my lottery fantasies involve taking a job i want to do rather than taking a job to earn enough money to support my family. i'd be a public school teacher for sure You won the lottery - you can afford a professional dominatrix if you want to torture yourself.
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Finally, a teacher who can actually afford to spend their salary on school supplies and classroom equipment!
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duz posted:I don't know, donating it all to Planned Parenthood so no one in America would ever have to worry about the monetary cost of abortions would feel pretty great. Would you be able to live with yourself if that bomb of money ended up destroying Planned Parenthood? Cus if the answer is yes, then go for it, take the gamble.
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T-man posted:I'm not gonna lie if I ever inherit a billion dollars I'm donating most of it and living off the residual of the rest. And I'll eat Red Lobster biscuits for every meal.* A billion dollars is the kind of money where I would literally be unable to spend it even if I just blew it on whatever floated my fancy.
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HootTheOwl posted:A billion dollars is the kind of money where I would literally be unable to spend it even if I just blew it on whatever floated my fancy. My typical hypothetical example of how much a billion dollars is: If you had a billion dollars you could buy a brand new $300,000 Lamborghini in cash on a Sunday. You could then drive that car for a week, and then on Saturday push it off a cliff, and buy a new one on Sunday. You could continue to do that, every week, for over sixty four years. A car that costs more than most people's homes, in cash, every week, for long enough there's a decent chance you could run out of years you can legally drive before you ran out of money, since after getting your license at 16 you'd be over 80.
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