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cinci zoo sniper posted:that was my last org - tech startup that then started hiring tons of lawyers and finance people during major expansion. gmail labels in outlook is quite an adventure also no calendar or contacts sync unless you want to use their sync shim which not only doesn't actually work for sync but also does some hugely hosed up poo poo with the outlook profile and renders PST exports essentially worthless
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infernal machines posted:also no calendar or contacts sync unless you want to use their sync shim which not only doesn't actually work for sync but also does some hugely hosed up poo poo with the outlook profile and renders PST exports essentially worthless yeah i has to troubleshoot the sanctioned addon and in one instance it tried some hosed up upstream commit of outlook folder layout into gmail and i ended up wasting good 4 hours to assemble emails into some legible to web interface collections, which completely helldumped the outlook in reverse. 2/10 would not recommend
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carry on then posted:rude of you to dismiss the oracle cloud out of hand better dismissing it out of hand than trying to get an oracle breach of contact lawsuit dismissed in court.
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I wonder how many companies refuse to touch GPL software under any circumstances but are currently using the Oracle JDK in violation the license agreement?
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mystes posted:I wonder how many companies refuse to touch GPL software under any circumstances but are currently using the Oracle JDK in violation the license agreement? it's more the JRE license than the JDK one that's the problem. It's still pretty poo poo but I can understand the JDK being a paid thing, but the primary runtime for one of the most popular languages around not being free is a very Oracle step and yes I know OpenJDK mostly works as a replacement, that's besides the point
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mostly is sort of the problem because a lot of times you have to manually tweak things to get it working for any given product, which doesn't scale well even if it's just basic poo poo like env paths iirc amazon corretto manages to be a better drop-in replacement, but i don't know if there are any landmines hidden in the license agreement
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cinci zoo sniper posted:topic for random musings - for a 2019 greenfield project, what are the scenarios when azure is preferred to aws or gcp? let's assume a non-dod/feds oriented startup that has equal availability of people who know all the platforms pricing ms sql that's it
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Private Speech posted:it's more the JRE license than the JDK one that's the problem. It's still pretty poo poo but I can understand the JDK being a paid thing, but the primary runtime for one of the most popular languages around not being free is a very Oracle step how dense are you openjdk is an oracle-supported product. it is the upstream from which oracle java is derived. it is the primary runtime. oracle was tired of branded java being the locus for a bunch of un-paid support bullshit. better to move that poo poo to openjdk mailing lists if you want an oracle support contract for a java runtime, oracle is happy to sell you one if you want a free java runtime, that is also available
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Nov 6, 2019 20:20
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the “3 billion devices run java!” image during installation always seemed like a threat
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you cant cut back on java licensing! you will regret this!!
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i am actually glad that oracle has shitcanned free oracle java openjdk should always be the default choice and now arch-conservative corporate it departments are being dragged kicking and screaming to where they should have gone to start with: a paid support contract, or the free and open runtime
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:pricing gcp is a non-starter unless you're 100% bought into the kubernetes fad, which leaves only aws. when it comes to aws, azure is better for: - identity - hybrid cloud - developer tools - databases - anything related to microsoft software in any way - companies in regions served by azure but not aws - amazon's direct competitors - companies that will soon be amazon's direct competitors (approximately every company in the world)
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Nov 6, 2019 21:36
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gc pubsub and spanner are actually extremely good
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I work in the middle east, where most companies are very wary of placing data outside the gcc / their own country. Microsoft's data centers in the UAE will earn them a shitload of money
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orange sky posted:I work in the middle east, where most companies are very wary of placing data outside the gcc / their own country. Microsoft's data centers in the UAE will earn them a shitload of money total technology spending in the uae is extremely small, so no, it won't even if microsoft had 100% market share among uae / gcc firms it would be a pissant amount of money
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Fiedler posted:gcp is a non-starter unless you're 100% bought into the kubernetes fad, which leaves only aws. i'm starting to wonder if you actually work for microsoft it's hard to believe a case of brainworms this bad would happen just working at a regular windows shop
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:total technology spending in the uae is extremely small, so no, it won't Saudi companies will probably go for it too. To a certain extent, maybe Egyptian companies, depending on the link.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm starting to wonder if you actually work for microsoft he does. like, he doesn't even try to hide it, he uses what's pretty clearly internal terminology all the time
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well that is certainly letting down the yospos ideal of highly objective commentary on important computer matters
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:pricing afaik for pricing its all swings and roundabouts as you'll save on one thing and pay more for another but cloud pricing is a non-starter when one month of a consultant is the same as our entire cloud budget. It's modern bikeshedding, i tell my boss as he wants to cut our sql server in half
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i am actually glad that oracle has shitcanned free oracle java What? How does that benefit anyone but Oracle. I don't see why they couldn't sell support contracts while keeping the runtime itself free, as Sun has e: except b/c they're Private Speech fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Nov 6, 2019 |
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here's the pricing table (from here) truly a solution for every it department out there Private Speech fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Nov 6, 2019 |
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n bsd is talking about banks and fortune 50 companies and absolutely no one else, so sometimes you get weird seeming takes
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm starting to wonder if you actually work for microsoft carry on then posted:he does. like, he doesn't even try to hide it, he uses what's pretty clearly internal terminology all the time you two should make your yosposters.xlsx files public so that we can figure out how you arrived at such disparate backstories about me.
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 sure thing,quote:Bill Gates thinks Windows Mobile would have beaten Android without Microsoft’s antitrust woes https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/6/20952370/bill-gates-windows-mobile-android-competition-comments-microsoft-antitrust
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coincidentally HP and RIM believe they would have dominated the space if google and apple didn’t.. uh.. exist
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bill's argument seems to be that, if left unchecked by the doj, then he would have paid more attention to mobile, and the pocket pc/windows mobile efforts of the very early 2000s would have been successful. this seems doubtful given the hardware available at the time, but microsoft did have a massive head start and they certainly squandered it.
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Windows Mobile probably just made it take longer for Microsoft to release Windows Phone in the end, although I don't know what Windows Mobile 7 was like so I'm not sure exactly how far behind they were in 2010. The real problem is just that there was only a window of a couple years to become the second smartphone OS and Windows Phone came way too late for that. mystes fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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mystes posted:Windows Mobile probably just made it take longer for Microsoft to release Windows Phone in the end, although I don't know what Windows Mobile 7 was like so I'm not sure exactly how far behind they were in 2010. the real problem was they wanted to license their os and have minimum specs, and android didn't
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has anyone made a joke about edge and the masturbating tactic of the same name
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no plz fill that void
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microsoft edge, more like masturbatory edging amiright????
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🎶 one step closer to Microsoft Edge and I’m about to nut 🎶
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echinopsis posted:microsoft edge, more like masturbatory edging amiright???? u delivered also innovative use of the word tactic
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tactical masturbation, truly the cutting edge
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we'll sell you the whole os, but you're only gonna need the edge
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echinopsis posted:has anyone made a joke about edge and the masturbating tactic of the same name I have, op
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whatever happened to that feature ms teased about being to group related programs in a single window
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Joe 30330 posted:edgium is good It's pretty much a carbon copy of Chrome, I see no reason to act like it's special somehow. You could have had this browser for years.
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