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You should assume everyone is negioating in bad faith unless proven otherwise (you know and trust them). quote:This just feels like a way to pay me less. If it seems like that, then it's probably that. See if they're willing to put that offer in writing as part of the contract. As in, after X months you will be bumped to Engineer 2 with X salary increase. If not, then you have your answer.
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Xarn posted:Is there? I can only get it to return "just" forks. In the Repositories tab on someone's profile, choose Type: Sources. Forgot about pinned though, that’s a much better idea.
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pokeyman posted:In the Repositories tab on someone's profile, choose Type: Sources. Oh man, thank you!
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Thanks for the responses guys. I’ll be continuing to talk with them tomorrow. See I’m OK with less responsibilities for six months to get acquainted with things but I definitely will want this in the contract. I’ll ask tomorrow and see how receptive they are. If not very then forget this nonsense start me at engineer 2.
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Social Animal posted:Just got into the negotiation phase. Manager wants to start me as an Engineer 1 cause of my eight month work gap and six months later move me to Engineer 2. Supposedly as a way of wanting me to shake the rust off and not hit the ground running too hard since apparently Engineer 1 includes less responsibilities. What is this, a trap? I'd be making somewhere between 90k-95k as Engineer 1 and at least 100k to whatever on Engineer 2. What do I do? This just feels like a way to pay me less. It's at a decently successful startup that looks very interesting to work at but I don't want pay resentment creeping in. It's an assumption of mine that any new hire will not be running on all cylinders until 4-6 months into their tenure anyway, since you have to learn a new codebase, new processes, and gel up with a whole new team. So in other words this doesn't pass the smell test to me at all.
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Nov 8, 2019 04:29
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kitten smoothie posted:It's an assumption of mine that any new hire will not be running on all cylinders until 4-6 months into their tenure anyway, since you have to learn a new codebase, new processes, and gel up with a whole new team. 
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Nov 8, 2019 04:34
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kitten smoothie posted:So in other words this doesn't pass the smell test to me at all. Same
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Nov 8, 2019 05:33
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kitten smoothie posted:So in other words this doesn't pass the smell test to me at all. 
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pokeyman posted:In the Repositories tab on someone's profile, choose Type: Sources. 
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kitten smoothie posted:It's an assumption of mine that any new hire will not be running on all cylinders until 4-6 months into their tenure anyway, since you have to learn a new codebase, new processes, and gel up with a whole new team. This sounds like people who don’t know how to hire or manage and have no experience in such.
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Nov 8, 2019 15:17
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Pollyanna posted:This sounds like people who don’t know how to hire or manage and have no experience in such. Or do arithmetic. The compensation difference between the levels for six months should be peanuts compared to the candidate’s expected total compensation (and added value) for their entire tenure at the company. Either the company can’t do that math, which is a red flag, or that’s not the math they’re planning on doing.
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Nov 8, 2019 15:21
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I hope no-one ever looks at my GitHub page to see if I'm any good. Everything of consequence I've ever done is a private Bitbucket repository.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:57
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Sab669 posted:Got an offer for $75 today, which is only about 15% more than I currently make. Not thrilled. Health insurance would go up from $10/mo --> $100/mo, too. 5 weeks PTO (vaca & sick); I'm currently 14 vacation + 8 sick days + 2 personal days. I would counter, saying, "I like the opportunity, but the salary you offered isn't quite what I was expecting and is giving me pause in accepting your offer. Is there any leeway in salary"? Also, need to ask about bonuses, cause if it's a big company, up to 50% of your income can come from non-salary income. Indeed, for example, does a 10-20% quarterly bonus along with a longevity bonus that vests yearly after 3 years. In the least, you can ask for a signing bonus to get you to switch.
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kayakyakr posted:I would counter, saying, "I like the opportunity, but the salary you offered isn't quite what I was expecting and is giving me pause in accepting your offer. Is there any leeway in salary"? I'd word it more in "If you are willing to go up to $XX, I am prepared to accept" rather than asking it as a question. If you want $85k, ask for it explicitly. You're in the counter-offer stage, it's best to be direct with hard numbers. quote:Also, need to ask about bonuses, cause if it's a big company, up to 50% of your income can come from non-salary income. Indeed, for example, does a 10-20% quarterly bonus along with a longevity bonus that vests yearly after 3 years. In the least, you can ask for a signing bonus to get you to switch. Also this, but any sort of bonus, stock, or non-salary compensation should be clearly defined and written in your offer letter & benefits package. If it isn't written down, consider it non-existent. Same thing with any sort of 6-month review/promotion type of situation. If it isn't written down in a contract, it's not going to happen. It already borders on not passing the sniff test, but if they aren't willing to commit to it in writing then it DEFINITELY does not pass the sniff test. Guinness fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Of note: took a job with the, "we have plenty of space to move up" in relation to taking a spot as a team lead and future engineering manager. 1 month gone by, now a team lead. Oh god, all the meetings! What have I done?! 
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BarbarianElephant posted:I hope no-one ever looks at my GitHub page to see if I'm any good. Everything of consequence I've ever done is a private Bitbucket repository. We've had backend candidates (and a friend) that couldn't share their code for reasons or did a lot of private repo work. Instead they took chunks of novel / interesting code, semi-anonymized it and created a "portfolio" repo that interviewers / recruiters could look at. Each directory had a README that explained the code snippets in context, etc. A _lot_ better than nothing and gives people a starting point/something to ask questions about.
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I don't know if this is the right thread for this but : I've been working full time for the past 10 years in an administrative role, recently I started going back to school at night for mathematics (MA degree). There is an opportunity coming up through the department to take a "intensive" data analysis and machine learning course (6 hours per week) using the R language. I don't have much of a programming background but the professor was encouraging me to enroll. The problem is I would need to quit my full time job to take it. My whole goal with this back to school project has been to transition to a career in mathematics (probably on the applied side like OR or statistics). I was wondering if anyone uses R on a daily basis or does anything with "machine learning" and could comment as to the possible benefits / costs of this as it obviously would be a big gamble for me. Is this material really (R, machine learning etc) really the future or is it marketing garbage?
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Nov 20, 2019 14:09
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Wutang-Yutani CORP posted:Is this material really (R, machine learning etc) really the future or is it marketing garbage? I wouldn't quit a full-time job on a gamble under any circumstances. If you've never programmed before, it's hard to say whether you'll enjoy it or have an aptitude for it. Aptitude for mathematics does not necessarily translate into programming, or vice versa. You can always come back to this later when it won't require a major life disruption to check it out. But ML is definitely for real and can do some pretty amazing things. It can also be totally useless garbage in the hands of people who are jumping on the bandwagon without the proper knowledge/background to effectively create and train good ML models. People who can do that are in extremely high demand and receive very good compensation as a result. So, it's both the future AND marketing garbage.
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If you're going to do statistics, you have to know R. There's really no other option.
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I’m not a data scientist, but I’ve worked with a bunch, and they all use R at least some of the time. (I’ve also worked with a lot of mathematicians who got into regular old programming for the paycheck. They’ve all been great.)
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Hey olds, curious if people have thoughts on wrist health/injuries, carpel tunnel, RSI, etc. I was carrying the coffee pot to the sink today and got a sharp pain in my wrist and was thinking wow if my wrists give out it will be a lot harder to use a computer all day. I am aware of common sense suggestions like have good posture, setup your desk ergonomically, take frequent breaks from sitting either to stand at your desk or walk around. I'm less clear on things like stretching... does it matter or actually help? Are there other things I should be doing?
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Stop getting older. When you age, random stuff hurts. I got used to it.
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Wrists are definitely the most famous killer for desk jobs, but you should be paying attention to your overall health. For example, I hosed my lower back up from years of bad posture while sitting; it took a couple years' worth of physical therapy and routine use of a standing desk to get back to something resembling normal and I still get low-grade chronic pain sometimes. The impression I get is that the more you exercise in general, the less risk you're at of suffering a debilitating injury. Wrists specifically don't necessarily correlate with cardiovascular health, but if you're out getting a half-hour of elevated heart rate every day, that's a) beneficial for a ton of other things, and b) time you're not spending holding your wrists over a keyboard/mouse. That said, I don't think any of us are medical professionals. Send your doctor a message saying you're worried about RSI and making sure you stay in good health; see what their recommendations are.
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awesomeolion posted:Hey olds, curious if people have thoughts on wrist health/injuries, carpel tunnel, RSI, etc. Go to a neurologist and get a nerve conduction velocity test/EMG. It's mildly uncomfortable but not too bad, they stick needles in you and shoot electricity down your nerves to check if you have reduced conduction velocity due to nerve damage or entrapment. You can also test yourself by tapping your wrist or elbow and seeing if you get an electrical "jolt" sensation. That's called Tinel's sign, although it's not definitive. Basically if you tap the nerve long and hard enough you'll get that sensation regardless of whether you have a problem or not. It's the same thing that happens when you hit your "funny bone" -- that's a spot in the body's dumb design where the nerve isn't really protected by anything. However, RSI (carpal/cubital tunnel syndrome) usually doesn't present as pain, it presents as tingling, numbness, or weakness in the hands. If it's carpal tunnel (wrist), it'll be the thumb, pointer, and bottom half of the middle finger. That's the median nerve. If it's cubital tunnel (elbow), it'll be top half of middle finger, ring finger, and pinky. That's the ulnar nerve. [Not a doctor, but I do have spine issues!] New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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Wrist pain and other conditions can be caused by general upper body weakness. The problem is that if your upper arms and shoulders are too weak, your forearms end up supporting too much weight, and that's just bad in general. You can fix this easily by lifting weights a few times a week, which is something you should be doing anyway.
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Sab669 posted:Got an offer for $75 today, which is only about 15% more than I currently make. Not thrilled. Health insurance would go up from $10/mo --> $100/mo, too. 5 weeks PTO (vaca & sick); I'm currently 14 vacation + 8 sick days + 2 personal days. I did get them to come up a little bit, still lower than I'd like though, and I was very close to accepting it when I got an email from a recruiter with a job that seemed decent, so I told the first company I wanted to scope this out first. Tuesday this week I told the first company to stuff it because the offer just wasn't good enough to leave the stability of my current job for, and then this morning I got an email from the recruiter saying this other company wants to make an offer. So hopefully I hear back from them soon; I asked for what would amount to a 30% raise (which is within the range they specified on the job posting). Fingers crossed, goons! That said I'm both excited and nervous/anxious  And yea - physical health / wrist problems scare the hell out of me. My posture is terrible. I try to get up and just take a walk around the office regularly but other than that I'm not sure what I can do. Outside of work I walk a lot and rock climb, but I'm definitely still a good 10-15 pounds heavy.
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For those sitting, a good chair is worth the $300-$500 you'd spend on one. Bought a 2nd-hand steelcase and it's been fantastic to support my posture.
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:Go to a neurologist and get a nerve conduction velocity test/EMG. It's mildly uncomfortable but not too bad  I've... heard different!Also, in general, going from no medical intervention straight to a neurologist for a test that's invasive is skipping a level of escalation or two that I think a medical professional would recommend, at least in my experience. Certainly working with a PT first would be a hell of a lot less unpleasant and probably cheaper in the short-medium term.
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Munkeymon posted:
I didn't find the EMG/NCV to be particularly painful. I think it depends on the doctor doing it, but I've only had the one so I have a very poor sample size. I'd hope that it's obvious that starting with a primary care doctor is better than taking the advice of some random programmer on the internet, but if it isn't, then yeah: Go see your primary care doctor before you start scheduling appointments with specialists. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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kayakyakr posted:For those sitting, a good chair is worth the $300-$500 you'd spend on one. Bought a 2nd-hand steelcase and it's been fantastic to support my posture. Can I ask where you got it? I need one for my desk at home.
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I got my chair at a locally-owned office furniture store above an office supply store. They have a cool used furniture section! The quality per dollar is way better than stuff from big box stores, even for new not-huge-brand-like-steelcase-but-still-good chairs.
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Pollyanna posted:Can I ask where you got it? I need one for my desk at home. taqueso posted:I got my chair at a locally-owned office furniture store above an office supply store. They have a cool used furniture section! The quality per dollar is way better than stuff from big box stores, even for new not-huge-brand-like-steelcase-but-still-good chairs. Exactly this. I went to a place called Cox Office Furniture in North Austin. They had about 10 Steelcase Leap v2's (and another 15-20 Leap v1's) and I picked my favorite, payed $250, and left.
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I've read those powerball gyroscope wrist exercisers can help.
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Boston doesn’t really have any of those nice chair options  I have to go all the way to Lynn.
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JehovahsWetness posted:We've had backend candidates (and a friend) that couldn't share their code for reasons or did a lot of private repo work. Instead they took chunks of novel / interesting code, semi-anonymized it and created a "portfolio" repo that interviewers / recruiters could look at. Each directory had a README that explained the code snippets in context, etc. I feel like most people have no interest in your Github or portfolio anyway.
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awesomeolion posted:Hey olds, curious if people have thoughts on wrist health/injuries, carpel tunnel, RSI, etc. I recommend seeing an occupational therapist and then taking their recommendations. Worked for me. They basically gave me exercises to do every night and I do them and then my symptoms stay in check. Doghouse posted:Try ergonomic mouse and keyboard? NOt a bad idea but I think it's good to only do this at home or at work, just to vary things a bit from one environment to the other. Also a keyboard tray makes a HUGE difference because if your desk is the right height for your monitor it's too high for your keyboard, and vice versa.
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kayakyakr posted:For those sitting, a good chair is worth the $300-$500 you'd spend on one. Bought a 2nd-hand steelcase and it's been fantastic to support my posture. The best part of quitting my office job to work from home was that I had an Aeron at home, versus some rickety-rear end chair that the company had bought at Office Depot on a Black Friday special.
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Since we're talking about home ergonomics: does anybody have a recommendation for an adjustable desk conversion? My home office is at a slightly elevated height since my wife kind of thought stools were more office-like. She's had to concede that it hasn't helped with my teres minor liking to get inflamed and pissed. So I am going to be dismantling the built-in desk here to make it free-floating. I wanted to get a kit to move it up and down. I'll also have to replace the chair since it's stool height--and it's also kind of falling apart. I was figuring that I didn't need to splurge on electric motors and could do with a manual cranked one since I don't move between settings too often, but I haven't used a manual one and they might be poo poo.
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