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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:This is where the Simpsons jumped the shark for me. In earlier seasons they would have a crowd of people who were just randos in the Simpsons style. In later seasons any incidental Springfield mob is Captain McAllister, Bumblebee Man, Sideshow Mel, Hans Moleman, etc. They have entirely disappeared up their own rear end, and did at least 10 years ago. God I wish the show had ended before 9/11. Yup. Multiple classic lines were delivered by "randos" such as: "This enormous woman will devour us all!" and, "The PTA has disbanded!" If done post season...11ish, let's say, it would have to be a named character, and they'd so something "silly" while jumping out the window/over the edge of the ship. Even semi-recurring characters, like the surly guy (but not Surly, the Duff Beer character) who said "I doubt my teenager son or daughter is that stupid"* and "sarcastic Charles Bronson store owner" don't appear much anymore (I think that first guy hasn't appeared since probably like season 8.) *I guess officially he is "Just stamp the ticket man": https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Just_Stamp_the_Ticket_Man
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Charles Bronson guy is named Raphael https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Raphael Although it took until S8 or so for his look to get standardized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1GRBjUEHck
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Tom Gorman posted:Goddamn, I never realized what this was a spoof of. The one where Bart turns Homer into a Jack in the Box with his mind? It's a good life
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The most annoying recurring character that could be many characters is blonde corporate woman
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And Tress MacNeille is voice acting legend, so that says something about how little her character is wanted.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Yup. Multiple classic lines were delivered by "randos" such as: Just flawless execution. 
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DrBouvenstein posted:Yup. Multiple classic lines were delivered by "randos" such as: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU
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mind the walrus posted:Charles Bronson guy is named Raphael All Creatures Great And Cheap is a fantastic name.
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pitch a fitness posted:This dude is the epitome of one line randos. 100% correct opinion
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https://twitter.com/sineadaloftus/status/1192427248172912640?s=20
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Ironically, at this point Marge and Homer are Millennials. The were ret-conned as Gen X like 10-15 years ago when they did that 90's episode where Marge is in college and Homer formes a grunge band, but now even that is too outdated. If they're in their mid to late 30's, they are the elder millennials, or maybe very young Gen X.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Ironically, at this point Marge and Homer are Millennials. Trying to apply continuity to the Simpsons is like trying to paint the inside of a car wash while it's running. Even if you get some of it to stick it's gonna get washed away in five minutes so seriously why bother?
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The sliding generation thing is part of why I really wish the writing held up at least a bit better. A 30 year cartoon is like the only medium you could really do it in so The Simpsons is kind of unique in that regard.
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ikanreed posted:The most annoying recurring character that could be many characters is blonde corporate woman Yes! I was just thinking how that character appearing meant the episode was post golden age. Didn’t Dana Gould base her on his HBO executive wife?
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That would be Lindsey Naegle, which I think is usually a pretty good parody of the Girl Boss type. That joke about her always switching jobs because she's a sexual predator gets a dark laugh out of me.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:That would be Lindsey Naegle, which I think is usually a pretty good parody of the Girl Boss type. That joke about her always switching jobs because she's a sexual predator gets a dark laugh out of me. Plus she gave us the "financial panther" line, which is something all of us must use.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:That would be Lindsey Naegle, which I think is usually a pretty good parody of the Girl Boss type. That joke about her always switching jobs because she's a sexual predator gets a dark laugh out of me. Lindsey Naegle is great if used correctly, like in Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie. Unfortunately she tends to get shoved into a lot of unfunny bits in later season, much like Sideshow Mel and the Crazy Cat Lady. Anyway, memes:   
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A Sometimes Food posted:The sliding generation thing is part of why I really wish the writing held up at least a bit better. A 30 year cartoon is like the only medium you could really do it in so The Simpsons is kind of unique in that regard. I feel like the sliding continuity is part of the problem with later Simpsons. The Simpsons were created to be relatable in the context of the early nineties. However as society has shifted in the meantime, the setting has become increasingly divorced from everyday American life. Homer sustaining a two car single income suburban household working an industrial job with nothing but a high school diploma is an anachronism. For grandpa Simpson to make sense today he'd have to be a Vietnam veteran rather than a WWII veteran, and Principal Skinner in turn would have had to have fought in the Iraq War. However the cultural significance of these conflicts is radically different, and that has important implications for characterization. The result is the show has become unmoored from reality, as it's tethers stopped making sense the tone became increasingly cartoonish, and characters and events became unrelatable.
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I was just a little older than Bart when The Simpsons first aired. Then I was about the age of Homer in the early 2000's. Looking forward to being about Abraham Simpson's age & seeing the show's still on the air.
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Squalid posted:I feel like the sliding continuity is part of the problem with later Simpsons. The Simpsons were created to be relatable in the context of the early nineties. However as society has shifted in the meantime, the setting has become increasingly divorced from everyday American life. Homer sustaining a two car single income suburban household working an industrial job with nothing but a high school diploma is an anachronism. For grandpa Simpson to make sense today he'd have to be a Vietnam veteran rather than a WWII veteran, and Principal Skinner in turn would have had to have fought in the Iraq War. However the cultural significance of these conflicts is radically different, and that has important implications for characterization. The result is the show has become unmoored from reality, as it's tethers stopped making sense the tone became increasingly cartoonish, and characters and events became unrelatable.
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Android Apocalypse posted:I was just a little older than Bart when The Simpsons first aired. You aged nearly thirty years in less than twenty? 
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DoorMatt posted:You aged nearly thirty years in less than twenty? homer has aged 6 years while his kids have barely aged at all. Android Apocalypse got off easy
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Chrpno posted:Plus she gave us the "financial panther" line, which is something all of us must use. To go to someone that was mentioned on the most recent episode of the very excellent podcast "Talking Simpsons", think about the lady in charge of selling Fleet-A-Pita to the investorettes in season 8. If that was a season 12-31 episode, that would have been Lindsay Naegel. Think how many different random rear end possible Benevenstanciano-esque characters the writers didn't create because they were just plain lazy in the last 20 years. I love Gil, I absolutely do, but imagine how many one-offs they could have created for all the Gil jokes of the last 20 years?
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DoorMatt posted:You aged nearly thirty years in less than dickety? FTFY
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:To go to someone that was mentioned on the most recent episode of the very excellent podcast "Talking Simpsons", think about the lady in charge of selling Fleet-A-Pita to the investorettes in season 8. If that was a season 12-31 episode, that would have been Lindsay Naegel. Think how many different random rear end possible Benevenstanciano-esque characters the writers didn't create because they were just plain lazy in the last 20 years. I love Gil, I absolutely do, but imagine how many one-offs they could have created for all the Gil jokes of the last 20 years? I think it was Talking Simpsons that pointed it out to me that Gil became the Lionel Hutz stand-in after McClure died. I mean, obviously not in his first appearance, since it's WITH Hutz, but once the writers knew they couldn't use Hutz anymore they needed SOMEONE to be the perpetual loser, incompetent at his job, etc.... They aren't identical, since Hutz is bad at being a lawyer but generally had the confidence of a better lawyer, whereas Gil is always pathetic and knows it, but it's simiar.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:To go to someone that was mentioned on the most recent episode of the very excellent podcast "Talking Simpsons", think about the lady in charge of selling Fleet-A-Pita to the investorettes in season 8. If that was a season 12-31 episode, that would have been Lindsay Naegel. Think how many different random rear end possible Benevenstanciano-esque characters the writers didn't create because they were just plain lazy in the last 20 years. I love Gil, I absolutely do, but imagine how many one-offs they could have created for all the Gil jokes of the last 20 years? I dunno, at a certain point they may as well just use the same character, because a lot of the one-offs they wrote in the later seasons have kind of a sameness to them. (Thinking about all the times they "parodied" vain millionaires and showbusiness people, especially.)
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Drink-Mix Man posted:a lot they wrote in the later seasons are all kind of the same ftfy
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