Sanitary Naptime posted:I don’t think they were confident in the operation of the pause button, I dunno? We were keen to try and not go over that maximum but so much loving stuff keeps happening. So we are going to be able to see on video the point where all your hearts break? Also fun, maybe next time ill be able to join in the sadness train Urgh, page snipe. 103 is the Atomic number of Lawrencium
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Eschenique posted:You know how England re-conquered Scotland by just making the king of Scotland the king of England and then he just went mad with power and England became the primary throne anyway. Hey now, Scotland graciously took the English throne when they couldn't be trusted with it anymore. England really re-conquered Scotland when it turned out Scotland was so bad at colonialism that we bankrupted ourselves.
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CyberPingu posted:So we are going to be able to see on video the point where all your hearts break? I don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s going to be great so great
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s going to be great so great Hope kills us all Comrade
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VideoGames posted:I think the simpsons meme thread might kill me. I cannot believe there are 308 more pages to go and already I have tears streaming down my face and my chest in pain with laughter. The part that ruined me was the entire subsection of mashups devoted to the "Put it in H!" car dude.
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CyberPingu posted:Hope kills us all Comrade Hope sustains. That’s not news or surprising though based on previous statements that they wouldn’t stand in the way of it. My only hope is that labour wrecks the referendum by *checks notes* concluding brexit as an issue and doing some socialisms. E: Oh gently caress off you disingenuous arsehole
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CyberPingu posted:Hope kills us all Comrade
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Hope sustains. That lines up exactly what they said before, they said they would support one but not in the formative months/years of the government
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Sanitary Naptime posted:That’s not news or surprising though based on previous statements that they wouldn’t stand in the way of it. Yeah it's making for a powerful anti-Labour sentiment in Scotland which I know plays well for the SNP but god drat if it isn't frustrating for her to hand soundbites for the Tories down in England too.
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VideoGames posted:I think the simpsons meme thread might kill me. I cannot believe there are 308 more pages to go and already I have tears streaming down my face and my chest in pain with laughter.  
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Tesseraction posted:Yeah it's making for a powerful anti-Labour sentiment in Scotland which I know plays well for the SNP but god drat if it isn't frustrating for her to hand soundbites for the Tories down in England too. At the same time, saying that labour wouldn’t be hostile to Scottish independence as they have been in the past could be a bit of an own goal with some of the left that shifted to the SNP. *awaits Coohoolin to tell me that I’m incredibly wrong and dumb for what is clearly a shitpost*
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OwlFancier posted:I mean it's been a very long time since I did it but basically all of his characterisation that I recall is 1. He's Jewish. 2. He's evil, and greedy and wants to literally carve off your flesh. 3. He's really weaselly when you complain about any of that. It's not quite that bad. If it was just greed that drove Shylock then he would have accepted Bassanio's offer to repay double what was owed. Vengeance is Shylock's true motive; Antonio was a massive anti-Semite who had abused and humiliated him. As a Jew Shylock couldn't demand satisfaction and knew also that he couldn't even try anything against Antonio without being killed or stripped of all wealth, but when Antonio fell into his debt he saw a chance to kill his enemy within the law. Shylock's rant isn't "weaselly", either. He is turbo pissed that Antonio has treated him like poo poo and tried to drive him out of business, but is getting away with it purely because Shylock is a Jew. The character of Shylock is easily used by anti-Semites, and it's certainly problematic that Antonio - who by any modern measure is the worst person in the play - eventually triumphs by forcing Shylock to convert for his life and give half his goods to the daughter who robbed him. But it's not as simple as you make out.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I don’t think they were confident in the operation of the pause button, I dunno? We were keen to try and not go over that maximum but so much loving stuff keeps happening. As I said at the time, I really don't think it's the size that matters, it's how it used. Of my two favourite podcasts (after PiP of course), one has fairly hard-limited half hour episodes, while the other occasionally hits 3 hours. Basically if there's things to talk about, and the conversation is interesting/entertaining, I'd really rather not see it chopped to meet some arbitrary limit - particularly at the moment where a given subject is likely to have completely dropped off the news radar by the next episode meaning it makes no sense to defer it. Maybe if you start releasing more regularly then a time limit will start to make sense just for your own sanity, but for a weekly show on a subject as wide as "gently caress me the UK is poo poo" just go for it. Alternatively I demand that you make each episode the exact length of whatever task I will be completing during which I wish to listen to your podcast, something I will email you about 10 minutes before recording.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:As I said at the time, I really don't think it's the size that matters, it's how it used. Of my two favourite podcasts (after PiP of course), one has fairly hard-limited half hour episodes, while the other occasionally hits 3 hours. You should come on the pod. Also every episode will now be exactly 69 minutes.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Hope sustains. Speak for yourself, for me it's sheer spite. If we ever reach socialist utopia I'll just crumble to dust (now there's an incentive for everyone to vote Labour)
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Miftan posted:You should come on the pod. Also every episode will now be exactly 69 minutes. Eh, I hate the sound of my own voice so I wouldn't be able to listen to it.
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StoicFnord posted:I just want to throttle LD supporters on my social media. I cant help it, it just rises up like bile. There's the delusional, that think they'll be in some "yellow wave" and the LD's will get a majority, so there's no reasoning there. And there's those FBPE asses that are adamant about Labour being some sort of ultra leave nexus despite the f*cking policy being "Peoples vote motherf*ckers". As much as my politics being aspirational, i am not blind to reality, but these shits all seem to be in some delusion land where its always a two horse race the the LD's are second. They can be ground down if you just stay consistent with messaging. I've been gradually turning FBPEs around all week. I've even taken arguments to DMs and then offered to speak with them on the phone. It's a lot easier to stay sane when you're actually speaking to someone in person. Current mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl9pTDK8PAk
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Aramoro posted:Yeah I can accept not knowing who Shylock is I cannot accept knowing who Shylock is and not knowing he's Jewish. It's pretty fundamental to the story. Off the cuff all I'd be able to tell you is that "Shylock" was an insult for Wonga-like behaviour or somesuch. If you made me think about it I'd probably remember it was a Shakespeare reference (although I'd never have been able to tell you what play it was from) and I'd probably have guessed it was a Jewish character purely based on the fact everyone was super racist in the olden days and that kind of literature is full of awful tropes. I can entirely believe the usage was inadvertent.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Eh, I hate the sound of my own voice so I wouldn't be able to listen to it. Please, I sound like I consistently have a cold and there's at least two Glaswegians on the pod (I'm kidding I love you both). You don't have to listen to your own episodes. Come on the pod!
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Miftan posted:Also every episode will now be exactly 69 minutes. Obligatory, "Nice". goddamnedtwisto posted:Speak for yourself, for me it's sheer spite. If we ever reach socialist utopia I'll just crumble to dust (now there's an incentive for everyone to vote Labour) Yeah, hope is a great spiritual cleanser, but hate, spite and bitterness are great motivators for living in the current hellworld. Can't find it, but basically that boxer whose motivation is the eternal hatred of the Tory party.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Speak for yourself, for me it's sheer spite. If we ever reach socialist utopia I'll just crumble to dust (now there's an incentive for everyone to vote Labour) Hope and spite are not mutually exclusive. The hope sustains me, but the spite fuels me.  We’re hoping to be a lot more regular with two episodes a week over the election period, and the length has been kinda standardised to an hour and a half as is. We’re planning on doing one episode after the election and then maybe taking a week off to talk over longer term scheduling issues - the Thursday or Friday drops have been seen to be not great by some of us, and the irregularity of it is kinda irksome but plays into scheduling issues between the pod and real life commitments. Also, you should absolutely come on the pod, even if it is just us giving you a platform to talk about the benefits and pitfalls of shared bin sheds in council estates for an hour and a half because I could listen to your posts read aloud all day
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Beatuiful. Truly art for the ages!
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Ash Crimson posted:God it's almost as if the tories hate Scotland or anything to do with it That’s not true, they loving love Gove
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Miftan posted:Anyway Judaism has a long and really successful history of leftism which nobody taught me when I was growing up in Israel for some reason???? I'm sort of surprised noone mentioned kibbutzes to you at any point!  But yeah, 19th/early 20th century leftism has a poo poo ton of eastern European Jewish people in it including a whole bunch of Bolsheviks. You've heard of this chap Trotsky, yes?
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I hope everyone likes debates!BBC posted:The BBC has invited the UK's political leaders to an "ambitious" series of debates.
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Tesseraction posted:and like clockwork Y'know considering the reaction to the idea of Scottish independence in England these days is mostly a shrug or a hearty 'cool, gently caress off then' I don't really see this as a particularly fruitful line of attack. Even if it was, all this tells me is to vote these loving tories out so we get a Labour majority and don't lose NI and Scotland. Tesseraction posted:Ah but he would wouldn't he, the remainer Ah, the 'No true Ashkenazim' defence.
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Tesseraction posted:and like clockwork I honestly feel like they dramatically overestimate the number of shits your average potential Labour voter gives about Scotland and its independence or lack thereof
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Guavanaut posted:Maybe nowadays peoples English Lit teachers don't do amazingly racist impersonations to underscore to the class how amazingly racist the character of Shylock is. Presumably Shylock was intended to have a venetian accent, whatever that was in the 1600s. Anyway there's some debate on how anti-semitic Shylock is in the context of Early Modern drama. Other Early Modern playwrights play all the antisemitic tropes straight, but while Shakespeare draws on the same tropes as everyone else, Shylock is significantly more humanised than e.g. Marlowe's Jew of Malta. We also have substantial evidence from other plays like Othello that Shakespeare was relatively enlightened for the time he was writing in. Whether this is a totally anachronistic reading is a different matter: it's arguable that Shakey was just humanising many of the characters that were flat tropes in a lot of earlier theatre, and that rather than him being unusually progressive, he might just have been trying to make his characters believable humans. So yes, Shylock is antisemitic as hell, but relative to other depictions of Jews in Early Modern Britain he is actually quite sympathetic. It's a live debate as far as I know. Purple Prince fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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