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General Dog posted:It bothers me greatly that somewhere on the internet is a bad website that dumb people enjoy. so log off
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Simmons was novel for the time and also I was 14, we had some good times but I never want to read or hear him again
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Grantland was great; I never enjoyed Simmons as a writer but he at least knows good writing. Though I guess the Jonah Keri thing kind of dims it’s star a little bit. I still like The Ringer and even enjoy the pop culture stuff. But it’s not quite the murderer’s row Grantland was.
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Nov 7, 2019 18:54
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I like that grant land was laid out in a way that was readable and that yuh could easily find article Simmons was also behind 30 for 30 so that is a big success too
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Peak Grantland was the only website where I could go there, click on a link about something I didn't care about, and enjoy it like 75 percent of the time. It really was something special.
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AndrewP posted:Grantland was great; I never enjoyed Simmons as a writer but he at least knows good writing. Though I guess the Jonah Keri thing kind of dims it’s star a little bit. They're just aiming for different things. Grantland had a lot more established names because it had Disney behind it, and it was one of the last big sites primarily meant to be consumed on a desktop so they did a lot more prestige longform stuff. The ringer is making almost all it's money from the podcast and video stuff, and the website is mostly short quick reads written with mobile users in mind. He's definitely a good editor and producer, his writing has just always sucked and he has a lot of dumb guy opinions
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Nov 7, 2019 19:30
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Like I understand mobile is different than desktop but I can’t understand why that means every single website in the world is now terrible and unreadable
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Nov 7, 2019 19:31
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euphronius posted:Like I understand mobile is different than desktop but I can’t understand why that means every single website in the world is now terrible and unreadable Because people in general are awful in design and will do whatever the norm is.
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Nov 7, 2019 19:37
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Jamboroo is back (at Vice): https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vb58ad/the-gig-economy-never-leaves-you
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Nov 7, 2019 20:24
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FMguru posted:Jamboroo is back (at Vice): https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vb58ad/the-gig-economy-never-leaves-you Are we sure that Great Hill Partners isn't going to claim NFL picks and poop stories as their intellectual property?
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Nov 7, 2019 20:46
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lol Magary was gonna jump ship to Sports Illustrated but for that ship bursting into flames a month before Deadspin's did
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Nov 7, 2019 21:36
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It won’t happen because Drew partly built his career on gleefully hating on Bill Simmons, but The Ringer would be a pretty good venue for Deadcast. Though at this point it’s become clear Barstool is a much worthier target than Simmons ever was.
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Nov 7, 2019 21:58
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Nov 7, 2019 22:12
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AndrewP posted:It won’t happen because Drew partly built his career on gleefully hating on Bill Simmons, but The Ringer would be a pretty good venue for Deadcast. Bill can be a petty guy so it may not happen regardless, but I don’t think Drew has ever said anything about Bill that couldn’t be painted as good-natured ribbing.
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Nov 7, 2019 22:45
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I mean Charles Pierce ruthlessly dunked on Simmons in a review of his book and he ended up hiring him a few years later. I don't think Drew has ever said anything that scathing , although he's not the heavy weight Pierce is.
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Nov 7, 2019 22:48
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"Next to BS, we have Drew Magary on to compare former Deadspin writers to characters on The Wire"
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To share Pierce 's review https://deadspin.com/you-are-not-the-cosmos-a-review-of-bill-simmonss-book-5403430 Reading it again now and it might be one of my favourite review essays ever.
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BWV posted:To share Pierce 's review quote:1.) Malcolm Gladwell Should Shut Up: Anybody who writes, "The other part about being a fan is that a fan is always an outsider" is pretty plainly from Neptune. And that is not even to mention the fact that, as we shall see in a moment, Simmons long ago stopped being any kind of an "outsider," even though he may never shut up about the fact that, long ago, the editors at the Boston Herald failed to recognize his genius. Thank you for reminding me of this amazing review.
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Nov 7, 2019 23:12
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I am not sure I can put this into words super effectively, but I feel like what the Ringer is doing is very different from what most/all of the Deadspin writers were doing and that it'd be a pretty awkward fit.
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Nov 7, 2019 23:18
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The Deadspin writers would balk at having to shoehorn HBO content into everything even if they do love Succession.
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Nov 7, 2019 23:20
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Voodoofly posted:Thank you for reminding me of this amazing review. quote:Reading Bill on "Vegas" is what the original Ocean's 11 would have been like, had Anthony Michael Hall been in the Rat Pack
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Nov 7, 2019 23:28
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Dr. Manhattan is an Assclown by Drew Magary
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Nov 7, 2019 23:28
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A decent bit of Drew's shtick feels like it's making fun of the way Simmons used to write but I'm not sure most people would even realize that now because he's been pumping out multiple columns a week forever and Simmons stopped writing.
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MourningView posted:A decent bit of Drew's shtick feels like it's making fun of the way Simmons used to write This honestly feels like you're giving him too much credit
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Nov 7, 2019 23:59
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https://twitter.com/profstewartrk/status/1192213126340464641 This is a cool interview.
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That was really good. Thanks.
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MourningView posted:What? He got mad about it in baseball all the time back when he still wrote about that and still regularly throws a fit if someone brings up stats that contradict any basketball opinion he formed while watching the three NBA games a year he watches now And he was right 
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Nov 8, 2019 00:48
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I think often of that article Simmons wrote about where the '07 Patriots would rank among the great Boston championships a week before the super bowl. And it ended with his dad getting pissed at him for writing it.
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Nov 8, 2019 01:07
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That Leitch piece about Simmons from 2009 was truly godawful.
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Lockback posted:I am not sure I can put this into words super effectively, but I feel like what the Ringer is doing is very different from what most/all of the Deadspin writers were doing and that it'd be a pretty awkward fit. I agree and I'm not suggesting that they hire a bunch of ex-Deadspinners or anything. Just that the (former) Deadcast in particular is a popular, ready-made show they could absorb in their podcast empire if they wanted. MourningView posted:A decent bit of Drew's shtick feels like it's making fun of the way Simmons used to write but I'm not sure most people would even realize that now because he's been pumping out multiple columns a week forever and Simmons stopped writing. I'm sure Bill hasn't forgotten.
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the funniest petty thing he did was he deleted the footnote mentions of both Pierce and the Free Darko guys from the paperback because he was so salty about the reviews he got. Like we said though, eventually he hired Pierce so I guess he got over it.
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Nov 8, 2019 02:31
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MourningView posted:A decent bit of Drew's shtick feels like it's making fun of the way Simmons used to write but I'm not sure most people would even realize that now because he's been pumping out multiple columns a week forever and Simmons stopped writing. Magary's always had a schtick, it was much more irritating when he wasn't as good a writer/as insightful as he is today. But it's always frustrated me a little bit that he and others don't see how much Bill Simmons they have in them- they just make different references over and over. Magary is still a much better writer, but part of the reason schtick works is because it's comforting and easy for the reader to slip into. Also, Deadcast could go on Ringer without a problem, but Deadspin as a whole would be hard pressed to fit in. Undeadspin could get set up as a vertical though, if Disney had any balls and realized how they hosed up by killing an excellent loss leader in Grantland.
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I don’t think espn can have a media outlet they will criticize the nfl
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euphronius posted:I don’t think espn can have a media outlet they will criticize the nfl That's true- it'd be real hard to work Undeadspin into their sports coverage.
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