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I really do think something like Dexit was going to happen eventually due to the sheer amount of Pokemon that keeps getting bigger, but I think the outrage wouldn't be nearly as bad if Gamefreak hadn't completely and totally hosed up the PR about it. They seriously messed up on at least that front, and in a world where they'd actually put some thought into delivering the news, I'd like to believe there'd be grumbling but not outrage like we're seeing now.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:26
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Dehry posted:https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1192902516297682944 *nodding understandingly*
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Nov 8, 2019 23:27
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BearDrivingTruck posted:I really do think something like Dexit was going to happen eventually due to the sheer amount of Pokemon that keeps getting bigger, but I think the outrage wouldn't be nearly as bad if Gamefreak hadn't completely and totally hosed up the PR about it. They seriously messed up on at least that front, and in a world where they'd actually put some thought into delivering the news, I'd like to believe there'd be grumbling but not outrage like we're seeing now. I dunno, I can't imagine a version where it goes over better. To be fair I understand the annoyance, the game is literally 'all pokemon are good, find your favorites and be friends with them' and there's tons of quotes as the gens came of the devs all 'oh no we would never prune the dex' so I just can't imagine any version of the rollout that's handled well enough to avoid the "I AM LITERALLY BEING ATTACKED BECAUSE SMEARGLE ISN'T IN THE GAME" crowd.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:30
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BearDrivingTruck posted:I really do think something like Dexit was going to happen eventually due to the sheer amount of Pokemon that keeps getting bigger, but I think the outrage wouldn't be nearly as bad if Gamefreak hadn't completely and totally hosed up the PR about it. They seriously messed up on at least that front, and in a world where they'd actually put some thought into delivering the news, I'd like to believe there'd be grumbling but not outrage like we're seeing now. Dexit was probably inevitable but putting it in the game with bad performance, a draw distance of a meter, and broken geometry at the same time doesn’t make it look good. Let alone including less than half of the previous games’ roster, while launching a subscription service with its own universal Pokédex at the same time, how convenient.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:32
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BearDrivingTruck posted:I'd like to believe there'd be grumbling but not outrage like we're seeing now. It must be nice not knowing what reddit is like, I envy you
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Nov 8, 2019 23:38
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I think a more worthy base game and a proper explanation of what Home is would've gone a lkng way, as well as not needing to wait until the drat release to see who did and didn't make the cut.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:44
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The Bee posted:I think a more worthy base game and a proper explanation of what Home is would've gone a lkng way, as well as not needing to wait until the drat release to see who did and didn't make the cut. Yeah like they've said next to nothing about home since its announcement which makes me worry that it's just gonna be bank + gts which means you just gotta pray minior and yanmega make the cut next year or you're hosed.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:48
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An acquaintance of mine hasn't dipped down to Reddit-level outrage, but still vents on every platform she can that she thinks Masuda should be fired and he has singlehandedly, irreparably ruined Pokemon these past few generations. She's also said that she will, of course, be buying SwSh day one anyway
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Nov 8, 2019 23:51
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah like they've said next to nothing about home since its announcement which makes me worry that it's just gonna be bank + gts which means you just gotta pray minior and yanmega make the cut next year or you're hosed. This is exactly where they're loving up. You don't drop a bomb like Dexit and then get coy about how that problem is going to be handled in the future.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:52
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah like they've said next to nothing about home since its announcement which makes me worry that it's just gonna be bank + gts which means you just gotta pray minior and yanmega make the cut next year or you're hosed. yea this would help for sure (tbh I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out the GTS was just in the 'link trade' option, though) but yea the fact that we still don't know what Home is isn't helping
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Nov 8, 2019 23:54
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Pentaro posted:Remember we're all
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Flopsy posted:This is exactly where they're loving up. You don't drop a bomb like Dexit and then get coy about how that problem is going to be handled in the future.
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Nov 9, 2019 00:08
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It's going to be hilarious when the games still sell fine and the youtube outrage factory is going to switch their narrative to whatever the video game equivalent of "Disney bought out theaters for Captain Marvel to artificially inflates the sales" is.
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Nov 9, 2019 00:11
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Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee managed to sell well despite having like 153 Pokemon programmed in total and having like maybe a third of the features that Sword and Shield and Sun and Moon had.
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Nov 9, 2019 00:13
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Zuzie posted:Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee managed to sell well despite having like 153 Pokemon programmed in total and having like maybe a third of the features that Sword and Shield and Sun and Moon had. Yeah but they're also a remake of gen 1 and people loving go bananas over anything Kanto so that's all it needed to have.
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Nov 9, 2019 00:14
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I'd say the dexit issue was inevitable if this were a more complicated game. As it stands, every pokemon already had a model that would looking perfect in SwSh. There is something to be said for the animations you usually are encouraged to turn off completely, but seems like they were pretty fine doing it pokemon stadium style, have the model do a generic move, half-rear end attack the air, and then display relevant particle effects. I just checked and first thing that pops up is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQpYecnsQk Looks like the battle animations have been even more simplified.
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Nov 9, 2019 00:16
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MiracleFlare posted:An acquaintance of mine hasn't dipped down to Reddit-level outrage, but still vents on every platform she can that she thinks Masuda should be fired and he has singlehandedly, irreparably ruined Pokemon these past few generations. This is why the refunding of pre-orders is dumb, cause Dexit is not actually Nintendo's decision, and all the people who are cancelling to send a message are just gonna grab a cart (or both) regardless.
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Catalina posted:"Man, the discussions about Pokemon Sword and Shield have been a total shitshow, I don't mind if people are unhappy, but I just wanna sit back and chill with people and talk about the new starters and stuff, people who can be disappointed without being overemotional about it and writing 10 paragraph essays that boil down to 'please market your game to me, and not to 5-10 year olds'" Those overemotional people y’all keep poking fun at and making post after post after post about how glad you are that you’re so much more mature, so much smarter and less goony than are probably teenagers FYI, I hope this helps
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:This is true. It's a lot to drop on people and expecting anyone to wait patiently for more information rather than freaking the gently caress out and using whatever kernals of information exist to condemn everyone involved is too much to ask of any community. Asking it of gamers was folly beyond comprehension. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this generally how they handle controversial poo poo in Japan? Drop the bomb then ask for patience while the problem is being worked on "we're doing our best UwU". I'm not going to say I didn't see something like this coming (inevitably pokedex bloat was going to occur) they're just handling the situation dreadfully. You'd think somebody in marketing would step to the plate to do some damage control at some point.
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Nov 9, 2019 00:23
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Dehry posted:
That is just Final Fantasy 5's Atomos, you can't fool me. 
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Nephrite posted:That is just Final Fantasy 5's Atomos, you can't fool me. I want to throw donuts into their giant gaping void mouth.
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Khanstant posted:I just checked and first thing that pops up is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQpYecnsQk 1) Battle Revolution was just a battle sim. There was nothing else to the game but battle animations. So they could obviously focus a lot more on those. It'd be nice if every move in SW/SH looked like that but after Let's Go that expectation should've been way tempered. 2) The majority of this video is showing examples of A) different moves and B) normal Pokemon using moves against Dynamax'd Pokemon. Now I could be wrong but I feel like there's going to be alternate animations used there rather than having a tiny Arcanine charge up and bonk into Steelix' shin. Even if not, Flare Blitz looking different than Flame Charge is still not worth making a video over. EDIT: Flopsy posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this generally how they handle controversial poo poo in Japan? Drop the bomb then ask for patience while the problem is being worked on "we're doing our best UwU". I'm not going to say I didn't see something like this coming (inevitably pokedex bloat was going to occur) they're just handling the situation dreadfully. You'd think somebody in marketing would step to the plate to do some damage control at some point. Cipher Pol 9 fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Big Bad Beetleborg posted:This is why the refunding of pre-orders is dumb, cause Dexit is not actually Nintendo's decision, and all the people who are cancelling to send a message are just gonna grab a cart (or both) regardless. Refunding of preorders is a good, consumer friendly practice that Nintendo could stand to do more of.
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Borsche69 posted:Yeah trade evolutions just don't make sense conceptually. You trade something as an exchange, doing a trade just to trade back just for evolution kind of flies in the face of it. You're also putting a lot of faith in the other person actually sending it back, which I remember was the cause of a lot of playground fights and ultimately why the game got banned at my school. That could actually work. Only issue being searching for anyone willing to do the other half of a tradeback because if there is no incentive to do tradebacks for your usual random player on the GTS, they will not bother. ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah like they've said next to nothing about home since its announcement which makes me worry that it's just gonna be bank + gts which means you just gotta pray minior and yanmega make the cut next year or you're hosed. With possibly a subscription service. If it does have, then the 'outrage' right now has not even remotely peaked.
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Zuzie posted:Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee managed to sell well despite having like 153 Pokemon programmed in total and having like maybe a third of the features that Sword and Shield and Sun and Moon had. They sold as well as the other remakes despite the crazy backlash over being a "casual" Pokemon game.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:They sold as well as the other remakes despite the crazy backlash over being a "casual" Pokemon game. The thing that people who post on forums, even here, consistently fail to realize is that there's like 15 casual players for a mainstream game for every one of us nerds, and they usually don't rush to the forums to discuss game news.
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qnqnx posted:That could actually work. Only issue being searching for anyone willing to do the other half of a tradeback because if there is no incentive to do tradebacks for your usual random player on the GTS, they will not bother. Easy. Put it all on a Pokéblockchain and give out transaction fees.
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Children don’t loving care the entire dex isn’t the game and neither should you There are like 400 fantasy creatures to catch Jesus Christ
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Calico Heart posted:Children don’t loving care the entire dex isn’t the game and neither should you I want 900 tho. They had 400 two games ago at 40 bux and the other 400 were compatible.
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The games are better when they don't have to carry previous region's baggage. Like, I'm actually looking forward to dexit because it means I don't have to build certain assumptions (ex. Garchomp) into a pvp team. Certainly, new and powerful things will become common in the meta, but at least they're new things not yet-another entry hazard Skarmory or whatever. Having to work within the limitations of the region adds challenge.
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Calico Heart posted:Children don’t loving care the entire dex isn’t the game and neither should you I never liked the "it is a children's game!" argument. It ignores the entirety of players that grew up with the games, and implies children don't deserve better things.
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While the butchering is a net suck overall and my top faves were saved, I'm honestly looking more forward to getting the cotton candy hat Pokemon and fairy unicorn Rapidash than getting Clefable and Gardevoir for the xth time. Though I still will.
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It'd help if the pokemon they chose to leave out made loving sense by their own reasoning (the pokemon didn't want to go). There's no swans in England? No bulldogs? What?
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Radio Free Kobold posted:The games are better when they don't have to carry previous region's baggage. Like, I'm actually looking forward to dexit because it means I don't have to build certain assumptions (ex. Garchomp) into a pvp team. Certainly, new and powerful things will become common in the meta, but at least they're new things not yet-another entry hazard Skarmory or whatever. Having to work within the limitations of the region adds challenge. But they kept some like Tyranitar if the leak is accurate which is a must plan against mon some like everything else its half baked.
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My favorite friend Bulbasaur didn't make the cut, and although sometimes I worry that in my personal life I don't handle depression in the healthiest way possible, I'm at least reacting to this news like a gd adult
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