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Sagebrush posted:the anti-LGBTQ aspect of it is just a bonus for the more chudly types. Eh??? Why would some third party get mad about someone announcing what equipment the baby has? It has nothing to do with you. Making a party of it is increasingly dumb, but when did "It's a boy/girl!" become bigotry? loving hell America.
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oohhboy posted:Why is gender party even a thing? On top of that they keep getting more and more over the top. Letter opening, popping balloons, fireworks, high explosives, water bombing. What's next? Dropping 2000lb bombs, A-10 strafes and drone strikes? Facebook Aunt had a good response; mine is kind of a more neutral version of devil's advocate. (Note: this is pure internet speculation). To me, it seems like a fairly natural evolution if you were to look at the "it's a boy!"/"it's a girl!" banners that people would put up, and then ask "How can I make this more interesting/unique/fun?". This kind of aligns with how the original one regrets it. The Ruflux posted:I'm more concerned about the "left turn yield on green" sign. Surely that should be self-explanatory, unless it's a green arrow light in which case what the hell I love that the city I live in uses flashing yellow left turn arrows. It's so nice just letting the turn lanes yield and then turn if there's no oncoming traffic. MononcQc posted:One of the ironies of automation has always been that you tend to automate the easier stuff first, so when you fall into dangerous situations, you're usually thrown there on short notice, with an eroded skillset you haven't had to practice in a while because it is only useful in rare emergencies. This is why I'm vocally against self-driving cars and poo poo, and will do my damnest to never get in one. Besides being a software engineer myself, and therefore never trusting other software engineers with my life, this lack of practice seems very dangerous. I can't find the exact article I'm remembering but there was one that really explained the issues of alarm fatigue and skill atrophy that could occur with people ignoring false positives and just not practicing skills like driving. EDIT: oohhboy posted:Eh??? Why would some third party get mad about someone announcing what equipment the baby has? It has nothing to do with you. Making a party of it is increasingly dumb, but when did "It's a boy/girl!" become bigotry? loving hell America. It's "anti-LGBT" because you're parentsplaining the child's gender when sex does not determine gender. Also, again, just blame the Internet. pseudorandom fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Wow, with all these fires getting about in QLD and NSW, I just received an email reminding of what a complete fire ban means. quote:A State of Fire Emergency has been declared across 42 Local Government Areas in Queensland, which prohibits the lighting of all types of outdoor fires, bans certain activities that could cause fire and allows authorities to drawn on private resources.
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pseudorandom posted:I can't find the exact article I'm remembering but there was one that really explained the issues of alarm fatigue and skill atrophy that could occur with people ignoring false positives and just not practicing skills like driving. Probably this one. https://medium.com/backchannel/how-technology-led-a-hospital-to-give-a-patient-38-times-his-dosage-ded7b3688558 There's four parts.
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Cthulu Carl posted:I'm the AI designed to make about 7 attempts to categorize an object I'm approaching within 5 seconds, but never make the determination that I'm still approaching a potential obstacle and should make attempts to not interface with it. But if you brake for something you didn't need to brake for (e.g. a plastic bag blowing across the road) your delivery might take a bit longer to arrive and people might choose to use some other self-driving car instead. I don't get it, does the Uber software know when there are no crosswalks within a certain distance of a location and thus it's reasonable and legal for pedestrians to cross there without a crosswalk, or if an Uber car is driving down a highway in the middle of nowhere will it just ignore anyone walking across the road because they should have crossed at the nearest crosswalk which is hundreds of miles away?
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Buttcoin purse posted:
They programmed for whichever outcome is cheaper in the short term.
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Memento posted:They didn't program
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pseudorandom posted:I love that the city I live in uses flashing yellow left turn arrows. It's so nice just letting the turn lanes yield and then turn if there's no oncoming traffic. My town does this. It took a while for them to convert all of the lights and there was confusion during the transition, but it's nice. They've been playing with staggering left turns so one direction gets an arrow, then both directions go straight (with a flashing yellow left turn), then the other direction gets an arrow. That is dangerous A. F. You'll get stuck in the intersection making a left, see the lights turn red, try to clear the intersection, and not realize that oncoming traffic is getting full green signals and not stopping. A couple of intersections are doing the left turn at the end of the cycle. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I don't see what it adds and it is a bit confusing when an unexpected light pattern happens.
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ATP_Power posted:All 'self-driving' cars, not just Tesla autopilot are a loving disaster currently. I realize this is from a few days ago but for the love of god, Tesla Autopilot IS NOT SELF-DRIVING. It’s adaptive cruise control and lane keeping without the safety parameters that every other OEM insists on.
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drgitlin posted:I realize this is from a few days ago but for the love of god, Tesla Autopilot IS NOT SELF-DRIVING. It’s adaptive cruise control and lane keeping without the safety parameters that every other OEM insists on. I'm sure the sales reps for the cars aren't saying that though. I wouldn't be surprised if they're all "Yeah, you can catch a few ZZZ's when you're driving. No problem, Tesla's at the wheel." It was like when they introduced that "ludicrous speed" button or whatever it was, that would put the car in performance mode and launch it to top speed as fast as possible. There were all these videos out of the sales reps showing this off to prospective clients on surface streets, and it was all "Uhhhh... should you be doing this in residential neighborhoods?! There are kids out here."
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drgitlin posted:I realize this is from a few days ago but for the love of god, Tesla Autopilot IS NOT SELF-DRIVING. It’s adaptive cruise control and lane keeping without the safety parameters that every other OEM insists on. They should stop calling it Autopilot
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Tyson Tomko posted:Keep in mind though there are lovely drivers, then there's San Francisco drivers. It's the one place on Earth I regret driving in because of the constant honking, terrible driving, rude assholes, ultra congestion, see I'm getting pissed just thinking about it. Every city has its own particular version of bad driving. You wouldn’t believe the things I see drivers do in DC, regularly. Usually drivers from MD. It’s actually a real issue for self-driving cars; if you teach your cars to drive in San Francisco, and then you deploy that software in Las Vegas, it won’t work properly because bad drivers in Las Vegas drive badly in a different way. We might even see the localization problem causing local or regional monopolies, assuming any of this is ready in the decades before the collapse. drgitlin fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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GotLag posted:They should stop calling it Autopilot They should stop doing a lot of things. I say so often. They still do these things.
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Cthulu Carl posted:I'm the AI designed to make about 7 attempts to categorize an object I'm approaching within 5 seconds, but never make the determination that I'm still approaching a potential obstacle and should make attempts to not interface with it. That is the real idiocy on that. It is said how accurate categorizing is one of the hardest problems for self driving, but does it really matter. As long as you have sensors that can "see" an object and calculate it's vector, then unless you can categorize it as a plastic bag blowing in the wind the only needed conclusion is Just Don't Hit It. This reminds me of the issue with automatic emergency braking on some VAG cars few years. Car magazine tried to test it but they couldn't get it to work at all. Finally they got an explanation from VAG, the AEB only functions when the car's navigation system recognizes that you are driving on a public road. Drive on some random back road and you can hit anything you want. If you veer off the road and are about to hit the trees on the side, will the AEB recognize you are not on the road anymore and disable itself? Buttcoin purse mentioned the unnecessary braking for plastic bags, although I'd say it's best to not hit those either, you never know what sensors it could block. But either way, we are already heading for the decade of Random Unneeded Braking. EU is making AEB mandatory from 2021 and until those become really good we will just have to get used brakings for no reason. At least by the time we start having self-driving cars good AEB should be so ubiquitous that when self-driving runs against a situation it can handle engaging AEB should be pretty safe option instead of handling controls back to human. Then just leave the rest to the AEBs on the cars behind you.
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This reminds me of my mom's Honda CR-V that will semi reliably recognize shadows on the road as lane markings and will "helpfully" try to lane keep assist the car out of the lane. There's a particular underpass that it has tried to steer me into the wall twice. Had a new Hyundai rental try to steer me into the next lane at 70 mph when I hit some wet pavement. Good thing I'm a nerd and figured out how to turn it off before then, so I could disable the system after that. I was watching a YouTube video where the guy was talking about unpredictability and a car that will automatically slow down with adaptive cruise control, but just stops controlling the car without any warning below a certain speed. You get used to the car braking for you, then you get into a situation where it doesn't. Uthor fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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pseudorandom posted:
Right but if you announce it as a baby sex reveal, all the wrong kinds of people show up.
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GotLag posted:They should stop calling it Autopilot But autopilot is kind of exactly what it is. Autopilot doesn't take (currently) take off and land the plane (AFAIK?), or execute complicated maneuvers. It just keeps the plane going at a certain speed, altitude, and heading. Including probably directly into a mountain if you set it wrong and fall asleep. I mean I agree that that's not what the average idiot hears when they think "autopilot", but it's still a technically accurate description of what the feature does.
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Imagined posted:But autopilot is kind of exactly what it is. Autopilot doesn't take (currently) take off and land the plane (AFAIK?), or execute complicated maneuvers. It just keeps the plane going at a certain speed, altitude, and heading. Including probably directly into a mountain if you set it wrong and fall asleep. I mean I agree that that's not what the average idiot hears when they think "autopilot", but it's still a technically accurate description of what the feature does. Agreed. I’m not an airplane scientist but I’m 99% sure airplane autopilot also ignores pedestrians outside of crosswalks.
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Saukkis posted:That is the real idiocy on that. It is said how accurate categorizing is one of the hardest problems for self driving, but does it really matter. As long as you have sensors that can "see" an object and calculate it's vector, then unless you can categorize it as a plastic bag blowing in the wind the only needed conclusion is Just Don't Hit It. This reminds me of the issue with automatic emergency braking on some VAG cars few years. Car magazine tried to test it but they couldn't get it to work at all. Finally they got an explanation from VAG, the AEB only functions when the car's navigation system recognizes that you are driving on a public road. Drive on some random back road and you can hit anything you want. If you veer off the road and are about to hit the trees on the side, will the AEB recognize you are not on the road anymore and disable itself? I'm no AI teacher but I would think a plastic bag blowing in the wind has several features that an AI could use to make an appropriate brake/no-brake decision - small, moving around erratically in all axes. Something you can run into and cause damage likely isn't going to be moving like that. Then again... https://i.imgur.com/EpedGJP.gifv
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Imagined posted:But autopilot is kind of exactly what it is. Autopilot doesn't take (currently) take off and land the plane (AFAIK?), or execute complicated maneuvers. It just keeps the plane going at a certain speed, altitude, and heading. Including probably directly into a mountain if you set it wrong and fall asleep. I mean I agree that that's not what the average idiot hears when they think "autopilot", but it's still a technically accurate description of what the feature does. Technically correct is the least useful kind of correct. It doesn't matter what it means, it matters what the average user thinks it means.
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Autopilot dumb, but adaptive features, blind spot awareness, lane-follow, and brake assist are pretty awesome safety features on new cars. Just gotta remember they’re safety-enhancing not safety-granting.
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Those fucks at Tesla knew exactly the meaning people would take from the name "Autopilot" and I bet the marketing team wanked themselves into a coma when they came up with it. "We can tell people it's self-driving without saying it's self-driving!"
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Imagined posted:But autopilot is kind of exactly what it is. Autopilot doesn't take (currently) take off and land the plane (AFAIK?), or execute complicated maneuvers. It just keeps the plane going at a certain speed, altitude, and heading. Including probably directly into a mountain if you set it wrong and fall asleep. I mean I agree that that's not what the average idiot hears when they think "autopilot", but it's still a technically accurate description of what the feature does. Modern autopilot means in some aircraft once you program your flight plan in the plane can fly itself from wheels up to after touchdown. Theres still some button pushing required but no hands on the yoke or throttle. That is if both the aircraft and destination runway support it. Only plane I know of that does the takeoff automatically is the F-18 when its being launched from a carrier. Theres a handle specifically for the pilot to hang on to until after launch so they don't override the plane with stick input.
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Cthulu Carl posted:I'm no AI teacher but I would think a plastic bag blowing in the wind has several features that an AI could use to make an appropriate brake/no-brake decision - small, moving around erratically in all axes. Something you can run into and cause damage likely isn't going to be moving like that. Thought this was gonna end in Skyrim.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I'm sure the sales reps for the cars aren't saying that though. I wouldn't be surprised if they're all "Yeah, you can catch a few ZZZ's when you're driving. No problem, Tesla's at the wheel." That's just car salesmen in general. When I test drove my car, the guy led me through a neighborhood and kept telling me to go faster.
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Humphreys posted:“The penalties for contravening this declaration are serious – a fine of up to $3,336 or two years imprisonment,” ....one of these things is not like the other.
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MF_James posted:Dunno what these other fools are talking about, that's how it's handled in the US too; yeah you get some assholes that will just follow the car infront of them immediately but I assume assholes are everywhere. yeah a traffic light going out is treated as a 4-way stop in the US too, i dunno what that guy was on about lights go out all the time bc of storms down here in GA and we treat them as 4-ways with no issue, and people down here are not good drivers StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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oohhboy posted:Eh??? Why would some third party get mad about someone announcing what equipment the baby has? It has nothing to do with you. Making a party of it is increasingly dumb, but when did "It's a boy/girl!" become bigotry? loving hell America. LGBT people don't get triggered by gender reveal parties. Transphobes think they do, though, so they lean into it and in their mind it becomes "hahahah I'm owning the libs take that." This phenomenon: 
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Imagined posted:But autopilot is kind of exactly what it is. Autopilot doesn't take (currently) take off and land the plane (AFAIK?), or execute complicated maneuvers. It just keeps the plane going at a certain speed, altitude, and heading. Including probably directly into a mountain if you set it wrong and fall asleep. I mean I agree that that's not what the average idiot hears when they think "autopilot", but it's still a technically accurate description of what the feature does. This is why it's criminally negligent to call the system "autopilot" and an incredibly stupid take to say "well, Tesla is technically correct, it's on the user to figure out what it actually means and work within the system capabilities." The average person does not know that an aviation autopilot amounts to a three-dimensional cruise control. Thanks to general ignorance and decades of TV comedians making misinformed jokes, they believe that the pilot pushes an autopilot button at the end of the runway and then goes to sleep and the entire flight is automated. Tesla is perfectly aware of this and with one hand continues to market their system under that name, knowing that customers will infer that the system is more capable than it really is, while with the other they wave away any accidents saying "of course the system must be monitored continuously and the driver must be ready to take over instantly, we say that clearly in 8-point text in the system EULA."
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On some website that sells arcade machines, the standard/premium delivery system is kinda cruel So if you get standard the driver just hangs out flicking cigarette butts at you and refuses to let you use his liftgate.
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The worst thing about a car autopilot is even if drivers learned to manage one like an aircraft autopilot, which is pretty advanced but still needs a lot of babysitting and user input, is just like pilots stick and rudder aviating suffers, so will drivers. Imagine someone that hardly ever manually drives their car suddenly having to drive in a blizzard because the lane sensing stops working.
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LifeSunDeath posted:On some website that sells arcade machines, the standard/premium delivery system is kinda cruel
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LifeSunDeath posted:On some website that sells arcade machines, the standard/premium delivery system is kinda cruel If you get standard the truck doesnt even have a lift gate. This is how freight shipments works. You pay extra for the lift gate. It is assumed if you choose to not pay for a lift gate then you have a dock or forklift.
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Guyver posted:I just kind of find it insulting they think you need two people for 165 lbs. Unless one of the people is a woman, in which case it becomes a three man lift. That never made sense to me.
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Guyver posted:I just kind of find it insulting they think you need two people for 165 lbs. Things can be bulky enough to require multiple people even if they're not especially heavy.
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Okay but we're not dealing with an undefined bulky object. It's two boxes on a pallet. It's light enough that you could probably just grab the straps over your shoulder lean it on your back and walk it in the house.
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