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CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
you think after it came out that Bolsonaro rigged the election with evidence and no one cared would take the wind out of their sails but here we are

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

i hope the peasants movements and unions have guns

or the military is split

mila kunis posted:

this aged poorly

i tempted fate with this post

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Atrocious Joe posted:

i hope the peasants movements and unions have guns

or the military is split


i tempted fate with this post

It's not as if leftists in these countries aren't still in the streets. I don't see things magically just cooling down with everyone throwing in the towel.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Venom Snake posted:

It's not as if leftists in these countries aren't still in the streets. I don't see things magically just cooling down with everyone throwing in the towel.

yeah thats what the death squads will be for

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Venom Snake posted:

It's not as if leftists in these countries aren't still in the streets. I don't see things magically just cooling down with everyone throwing in the towel.

how this goes depends on how sturdy the military is, and to be frank I have no idea

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Atrocious Joe posted:

i hope the peasants movements and unions have guns

or the military is split


i tempted fate with this post

I blame you for this. :argh:

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

CharlestheHammer posted:

how this goes depends on how sturdy the military is, and to be frank I have no idea

it looked like for a bit maduro was totally done then things quickly turned around. the vast majority of the U.S. operations in south america recently have blown up in it's face so to speak, so why would this one go off without a hitch?

everything about this smells of desperation. like timetables got moved way up, quite possibly because of the upcoming 2020 election

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001

Venom Snake posted:

it looked like for a bit maduro was totally done then things quickly turned around. the vast majority of the U.S. operations in south america recently have blown up in it's face so to speak, so why would this one go off without a hitch?

everything about this smells of desperation. like timetables got moved way up, quite possibly because of the upcoming 2020 election

TBH I think this one will succeed. Everyone's resigned already. Every constitutional successor except for the Head of the Supreme Tribunal of Justice is gone.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

TheBalor posted:

TBH I think this one will succeed. Everyone's resigned already. Every constitutional successor except for the Head of the Supreme Tribunal of Justice is gone.

Depends on if Morales has the same gently caress-you-itiveness that Chavez did to launch a counter-coup. I’d guess no, sadly, but I’d like to be wrong.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Guess the state department relearned how to do a coup after the guaido fiasco

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

There seem to be two liberal opinions on this:

- This is good because Morales was bad and unsupported by The People, which I know because some expat on the internet told me so
- No one can really say whether it's good or bad, because it's impossible to prove that Morales wasn't bad and that this wasn't The Will Of The People

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Morales was the least objectionable social democrat in all of Latin America as far as liberal sensibilities go.

There is nothing more objectionable than concentration of power that is contrary to imperial interest

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
There is also a third option

-Wait, maybe the accusations of him being bad are true or something? I better check with people who know better and...oh, yeah, don't know why I thought this time would be different.

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Generally all the evidence of underhanded bullshit starts to trickle out a few years after this, at which time liberals will have washed their hands and moved on to the Peru campaign etc.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Majorian posted:

Depends on if Morales has the same gently caress-you-itiveness that Chavez did to launch a counter-coup. I’d guess no, sadly, but I’d like to be wrong.

In 2002, Chavez refused to resign which led the military to just sort of kidnap him and make the coup look even more legally hosed up.

The big question is if the whole military supports this move, or if junior officers might be pro-Morales and refuse to follow orders. That's a big reason Chavez survived 2002.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

Generally all the evidence of underhanded bullshit starts to trickle out a few years after this, at which time liberals will have washed their hands and moved on to the Peru campaign etc.

by the very nature of intelligence agency fuckery and behind the scenes power grabs, no one will have 100% objective and sourced evidence that this is exactly what it looks like - a rightwing coup supported by the United States. and because nothing of the sort will come out for years, reflexively (and correctly) making the cynical assumption about what's going on in Bolivia will look like a conspiracy theory or Tankie Bullshit to them

but hey, the important thing is, when it really counted, the liberal will always be there to be the person who Appears Serious and take the nuanced position of defending the interests of global capitalism

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Mexico showing up
https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1193679423104602113?s=20

THS
Sep 15, 2017

on the plus side this is an incredibly good teachable moment of being able to see the absolute loving worst instincts of a lot of dipshit liberals in real time

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1193651665330737152
https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1193651157366788096
https://twitter.com/IgnacioPortes/status/1193669390836912135?s=20

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

comedyblissoption posted:

if they follow the honduras gameplan in which the military forcibly removed the president from office it will look something like this:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/31/hillary-clinton-honduras-violence-manuel-zelaya-berta-caceres

According to local experts, even Pinochet would have been preferable to Evo.

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1193657983219257344

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1193680302931107841?s=20
hosed

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
https://mobile.twitter.com/PompeiiDog/status/1193681839371759616

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Left to its devices, socialism always fails.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

:unsmith:

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Feeling bad for bolivia

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
death to America

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
The great thing about this coup is that every piece of poo poo who is both deeply into russiagate and certain that Russia is behind Maduro and Evo sees no contradiction between that and the US supporting the ouster of Evo.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
https://twitter.com/T4RIG/status/1193657363384979456?s=19

Seems about right

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
even succ matty is saying its a coup

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1193676169884901378?s=20

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

the cyberwar has begun
https://twitter.com/HalfAtlanta/status/1193686242556350465?s=20
https://twitter.com/Louis_Allday/status/1193661776681984000?s=20

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

lmao thats how hosed it is to use him as a metric

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

they want to normalize for when they used it on bernie sanders

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
today we are all bolivian

so therefore how dare you tell me you know better than me, a bolivian today

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

:d2a:

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

this time they aren’t even gonna pretend just start out as what it is

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
At least we were spared the months of haranguing by ACTUAL bolivians

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
geez maybe we shouldn't have let the entire media be owned by a coven of 12 billionaire vampires

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
imagine what those publications would be saying if there was a left-wing military coup in chile right now

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THS
Sep 15, 2017

love too read the newspaper and stay informed about current events overseas

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