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CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Diet Crack posted:

The fact that they are yellow tories and will prop up the tories in a coalition because they’re loving useless is the notion I’m aiming for because this guy seems to think that Corbyn votes in line with the tories more than the Lib Dem’s do, which is just absurd.

I’m also kind of tired because hey, tb/meningitis is a bastard, but I do get some catharsis out of pointing out how loving stupid some people are, even if I come across as a massive dick because I’m tired of watching people just spout utter bullshit and not be pulled up on it.
guessing that he's looking at Corbyn's record during New Labour?

Corbyn as opposition leader has inflicted more defeats on the government than the previous record-holder, Thatcher (admittedly probably due more to the general situation being absolutely hosed than his specific competences, but hey)

couple of articles here on how many times Corbyn's rebellions were with Conservatives (7 total out of 428), with some restrictions (whipped votes only)

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-has-jeremy-corbyn-ever-voted-with-the-conservatives-in-parliament
https://evolvepolitics.com/jeremy-corbyn-voted-against-the-tories-421-times-out-of-his-428-labour-vote-rebellions/

also here's his voting record
https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Jeremy_Corbyn&mpc=Islington_North&house=commons&display=allvotes

here's a critter page tax, one of nature's janitors


and since that might not to be to some peoples' tastes

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Nov 11, 2019

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Depends why he's opposed to drug use, you'd likely need to talk to him about it, and it's quite possible he might just not be comfortable with it.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Diet Crack posted:

The fact that they are yellow tories and will prop up the tories in a coalition because they’re loving useless is the notion I’m aiming for because this guy seems to think that Corbyn votes in line with the tories more than the Lib Dem’s do, which is just absurd.

I’m also kind of tired because hey, tb/meningitis is a bastard, but I do get some catharsis out of pointing out how loving stupid some people are, even if I come across as a massive dick because I’m tired of watching people just spout utter bullshit and not be pulled up on it.

Have you got meningitis? Sorry to hear that - hope you recover soon!

I think I saw that guy's post. I think he thinks 'vote against the whip' = 'vote with the tories'.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



RabidWeasel posted:

I got back from holiday today just in time to appreciate some fine War Christmas paraphenalia and also holy poo poo thread you got horny last night

p.s. related to horny chat if anyone can think of an ingenious way to introduce poppers to my All Drugs Are Bad boyfriend I would appreciate it

rectally

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Just asked the missus, about this. From the police's perspective the operators have been told it would be transferred to the action centre (because they barely have enough staff to handle the calls), and that the action centre would log it for investigation, then it gets passed back to the police investigation teams. This is not entirely a police thing, this is yet another private sector contractor turning out to be worse than loving useless.

The thing to remember is that when prosecutions aren't pursued, 99% of the time it's the CPS refusing to act unless they have absolute certainty the conviction is guaranteed. This feeds back to officers developing a culture of not investigating things because they already know it's pointless.

I know it's tempting to ascribe malice to every action the police take, and they absolutely have a meathead boot-boy problem with their rank and file, but in this case it's more down to the cuts to funding and numbers that has driven the police to shunting a fairly important chunk of their reporting off to a private firm who are doing gently caress all with it.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Put it in your pot pourri because it's totally just a room odouriser

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

OwlFancier posted:

Depends why he's opposed to drug use, you'd likely need to talk to him about it, and it's quite possible he might just not be comfortable with it.

Well yeah, that's the problem. He's the kind of person who stubbornly refuses to get medical treatment unless it's crippling and I think recreational drugs fall under the same umbrella as far as he's concerned.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Have you got meningitis? Sorry to hear that - hope you recover soon!

I think I saw that guy's post. I think he thinks 'vote against the whip' = 'vote with the tories'.

A very mild case of it yes and thanks for the wishes. It’s more of a severe viral encephalopathy with some inflammation of the brain lining, luckily the TB portion isn’t the lung scarring one, but being in hospital for 3 weeks has sucked monumental rear end with massive migraines, dizziness, hallucinations and losses motor/speech function at times. ON the antibiotic drips and some biiiiig tablets that make my urine go a brighter orange than the sun, but it’s reduced the symptoms down to nausea and lethargy at the moment.

Diet Crack fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Nov 11, 2019

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
^^ sounds horrendous ^^

Corbyn votes:
A couple of years ago, I downloaded all his votes from 1997 to 2015 I think it was.
In that period of time, he voted against the Labour whip approx 510 times. In the same time period he voted WITH the labour whip over 3100 times. That is 85% loyal over nearly 20 years.

Has anyone analysed the number of votes against the whip of other politicians? The only other one I've seen is the one where since 2010 Jo Swinson voted WITH the tory whip more often than Hunt and Gove (who appear to have voted against the tory whip around 300 times in just 8 or 9 years if I remember correctly).

A former labour mp I know told me that much of the time when MPs vote they don't actually know what they are voting for (there are very many votes) and just go in the lobby they're told to go in. He mentioned one occasion when he was in a lobby with Jack Straw and said 'what are we voting on' and Straw said 'I have no idea'.

He said there was an 'awkward squad' of around 40MPs (of which Corbyn was one - he didn't confirm whether he meant just labour MPs or all MPs) who wouldn't vote in a lobby unless they knew what they were voting for. "That's good" said I. He looked surprised that I thought it was another plus to Corbyn.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

RabidWeasel posted:

Well yeah, that's the problem. He's the kind of person who stubbornly refuses to get medical treatment unless it's crippling and I think recreational drugs fall under the same umbrella as far as he's concerned.

That sounds like a fairly complex thing to unpick in that case, definitely a long conversation kind of thing.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






gh0stpinballa posted:

reading the news coming out of bolivia right now, feel ill. i don't mean to sound western-centric but tbh i would not be surprised at all if our own fash psychos start disputing the result in the (unlikely) event of a labour majority. they've already threatened to coup his government several times and we know what nadhim zahawi, as one example, is deeply involved in.

In 13 years he couldn’t find anyone else who had the ~charisma~ to run the country. 13 years in power and the choice was still “me personally or right wing hellscape”.

I mean, obviously better him than the coup but holy poo poo why make it so easy for the rightists to paint you as the bad guy? Just find one competent human being, you had 13 years to do it, why wasn’t there a stable of like 10 people?

Maybe Putin’s great innovation was playing pass-the-parcel with Medvedev.

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

He said there was an 'awkward squad' of around 40MPs (of which Corbyn was one - he didn't confirm whether he meant just labour MPs or all MPs) who wouldn't vote in a lobby unless they knew what they were voting for. "That's good" said I. He looked surprised that I thought it was another plus to Corbyn.

This sums up so much about politics. The people who don't know what they're doing are supposedly normal but anyone asking for an explanation on how the country is run is 'awkward'.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Liberals so obsessed with the hierarchy that they can't even take independent action when they're one of 650 people responsible for running the country.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

^^ sounds horrendous ^^

Corbyn votes:
A couple of years ago, I downloaded all his votes from 1997 to 2015 I think it was.
In that period of time, he voted against the Labour whip approx 510 times. In the same time period he voted WITH the labour whip over 3100 times. That is 85% loyal over nearly 20 years.

Has anyone analysed the number of votes against the whip of other politicians? The only other one I've seen is the one where since 2010 Jo Swinson voted WITH the tory whip more often than Hunt and Gove (who appear to have voted against the tory whip around 300 times in just 8 or 9 years if I remember correctly).

A former labour mp I know told me that much of the time when MPs vote they don't actually know what they are voting for (there are very many votes) and just go in the lobby they're told to go in. He mentioned one occasion when he was in a lobby with Jack Straw and said 'what are we voting on' and Straw said 'I have no idea'.

He said there was an 'awkward squad' of around 40MPs (of which Corbyn was one - he didn't confirm whether he meant just labour MPs or all MPs) who wouldn't vote in a lobby unless they knew what they were voting for. "That's good" said I. He looked surprised that I thought it was another plus to Corbyn.

according to this, Swinson has basically always voted with the Lib Dems, including whipped, going against the Lib Dem majority vote precisely once during the coalition years (which vote isn't stated, so unknown if whipped) and not at all since 2017

https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?id=uk.org.publicwhip/member/41555&showall=yes

although that doesn't say anything about how many times the Lib Dems have whipped with the Tories during 2010-2015 and 2017-present

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






She

CGI Stardust posted:

according to this, Swinson has basically always voted with the Lib Dems, including whipped, going against the Lib Dem majority vote precisely once during the coalition years (which vote isn't stated, so unknown if whipped) and not at all since 2017


She always voted at her party’s call, and she never thought of voting for herself at all. She thought so little they rewarded she...not at all actually, because they weren’t in power.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

"If you don’t want to wear a poppy don’t bother; they fought and died so you could choose."

But don't choose to wear a white poppy, traitor.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

War to end all wars, what's that?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/st...ingawful.com%2F
https://twitter.com/PompeiiDog/stat...ingawful.com%2F

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

OwlFancier posted:

War to end all wars, what's that?

The one before the war where we revert back to sticks and stones.

(Still the best operation flashpoint death quote too)

E: full excerpt:

Professor Albert Einstein was asked by friends at a recent dinner party what new weapons might be employed in World War III. Appalled at the implications, he shook his head.

After several minutes of meditation, he said. “I don’t know what weapons might be used in World War III. But there isn’t any doubt what weapons will be used in World War IV.”

“And what are those?” a guest asked.

“Stone spears,” said Einstein.

It’s anecdotal but still pretty undeniable.

Diet Crack fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Nov 11, 2019

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

So this is the States RN?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Eyhq-D9yM

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
The Bolivian coup is awful, but I'll be honest, I can't say I have much trust for Telesur's take on anything. They're the propaganda arm for a bunch of shithead bandits taking Osbornian economics to their logical conclusion. Kind of like how even if we all agree Tory Britain is poo poo, we don't go around sharing Socialist Worker articles on the subject.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_76-eZZLec

A squatter let off a firework during the minutes silence in Eccles.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

loving lunatics these people.

Wrath of Mordark
Jul 25, 2006

Foster liked his brand new wand!
Fun Shoe

Diet Crack posted:

The one before the war where we revert back to sticks and stones.

(Still the best operation flashpoint death quote too)

E: full excerpt:

Professor Albert Einstein was asked by friends at a recent dinner party what new weapons might be employed in World War III. Appalled at the implications, he shook his head.

After several minutes of meditation, he said. “I don’t know what weapons might be used in World War III. But there isn’t any doubt what weapons will be used in World War IV.”

“And what are those?” a guest asked.

“Stone spears,” said Einstein.

It’s anecdotal but still pretty undeniable.

Dig deep the piles of rubble and ruin
Towering overhead both far and wide
There's unknown tools for World War III
Einstein said, 'We'll use rocks on the other side'
No survivors, set the world afire!

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Darth Walrus posted:

The Bolivian coup is awful, but

Shut up dickhead.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Shut up dickhead.

Read the rest of the post, please. I was making GBS threads on Telesur, not Morales. Talking about a coup by literal fascist slavers is exactly when you want to be super-careful about vetting your sources.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Diet Crack posted:

The one before the war where we revert back to sticks and stones.

(Still the best operation flashpoint death quote too)

E: full excerpt:

Professor Albert Einstein was asked by friends at a recent dinner party what new weapons might be employed in World War III. Appalled at the implications, he shook his head.

After several minutes of meditation, he said. “I don’t know what weapons might be used in World War III. But there isn’t any doubt what weapons will be used in World War IV.”

“And what are those?” a guest asked.

“Stone spears,” said Einstein.

It’s anecdotal but still pretty undeniable.

lmao thought Einstein was supposed to be smart, obviously by WW4 we'll be using interplanetary mass drivers and antimatter bombs

Illuyankas
Oct 22, 2010

Ms Adequate posted:

lmao thought Einstein was supposed to be smart, obviously by WW4 we'll be using interplanetary mass drivers and antimatter bombs

Nah that's Worlds War 1, totally different

wocobob
Jan 7, 2014

damages enemies w/ corn

Apraxin posted:



Very glad to hear that Britain's economic juggernaut is firing on all cylinders!

:shepface:

“Experts say growth will improve even further if the Brexit deadlock is broken...”

:shepface: :shepface: :shepface:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Illuyankas posted:

Nah that's Worlds War 1, totally different

I loving hate all these reboots.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



You mean that the economy did well when Brexit was being constantly stymied and the Tory government was essentially paralyzed for several months?

:thunkher:

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Wrath of Mordark posted:

Dig deep the piles of rubble and ruin
Towering overhead both far and wide
There's unknown tools for World War III
Einstein said, 'We'll use rocks on the other side'
No survivors, set the world afire!

:hmmyes: the great philosopher, D. Mustaine

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005




Keep the arthropods coming! :allears:

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
Thanks for all the looking over what I wrote folks!

Going to be going to do some canvassing this week on Wednesday! It'll be the first time I do so, but I am looking forward to it.

Diet Crack posted:

A very mild case of it yes and thanks for the wishes. It’s more of a severe viral encephalopathy with some inflammation of the brain lining, luckily the TB portion isn’t the lung scarring one, but being in hospital for 3 weeks has sucked monumental rear end with massive migraines, dizziness, hallucinations and losses motor/speech function at times. ON the antibiotic drips and some biiiiig tablets that make my urine go a brighter orange than the sun, but it’s reduced the symptoms down to nausea and lethargy at the moment.

Get well soon!

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem


What a pic to use for a front page, dear Sun

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

UKMT November 2019 - This is A Great Year for Jeremy Corbyn

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Kill All Cops posted:



What a pic to use for a front page, dear Sun

Next article "PM cites twin babies born at 23 wreks as proof NHS is tip top"

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
Telesur is fine you nerd

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Kill All Cops posted:



What a pic to use for a front page, dear Sun

They look utterly horrified at simply being alive. Big mood.

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NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Diet Crack posted:

A very mild case of it yes and thanks for the wishes. It’s more of a severe viral encephalopathy with some inflammation of the brain lining, luckily the TB portion isn’t the lung scarring one, but being in hospital for 3 weeks has sucked monumental rear end with massive migraines, dizziness, hallucinations and losses motor/speech function at times. ON the antibiotic drips and some biiiiig tablets that make my urine go a brighter orange than the sun, but it’s reduced the symptoms down to nausea and lethargy at the moment.

Oh man sorry to hear that. Third month in hospital here, myself. Get better soon goon!

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