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gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

lol of course spooks are falling for the old "finest milking cow" routine!

https://twitter.com/GinSecurities/status/1193932126904815616?s=19

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
looking forward to bernie sanders being deposed by a military junta because of "voting irregularities" and liberals defending the reimposition of the lesser of two evils, donald trump

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
to be fair, bernie sanders had worrying authoritarian tendencies

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Al! posted:

to be fair, bernie sanders had worrying authoritarian tendencies

He failed to gain the support of the professional community and military and was trying to consolidate his power by bribing the uneducated

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

gotta say this coup was pulled off a lot more organized than the Venezuela one where it was just Guido saying "look at me, I'm the president now". The OAS was right on the ball immediately questioning the election when they halted the quick count at 80% which they've always done and everyone knew would happen.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

zegermans posted:

gotta say this coup was pulled off a lot more organized than the Venezuela one where it was just Guido saying "look at me, I'm the president now". The OAS was right on the ball immediately questioning the election when they halted the quick count at 80% which they've always done and everyone knew would happen.

Venezuela guy very much doesn't have the military lined up for him

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry
libs gonna lib on my feeds



almost to a T the "well secret murders, frogmarches by masked men and burning down homes are OK, but WHAT ABOUT THE TERM LIMITS"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ExistentialEnso/status/1193670507549405184

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
liberals are racist and believe a priori that south americans can't be trusted to run their own elections and therefore will believe any right wing coup is justified

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

zegermans posted:

gotta say this coup was pulled off a lot more organized than the Venezuela one where it was just Guido saying "look at me, I'm the president now". The OAS was right on the ball immediately questioning the election when they halted the quick count at 80% which they've always done and everyone knew would happen.
the venezuela coup was organized though and had basically the entire western world's governments and media recognize guaido over venezuela, cutting venezuela's diplomatic and financial ties and doing poo poo like outright stealing billions of dollars of assets

i assume guaido somehow convinced spooks and the trump administration he had domestic support that he didnt have

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

gh0stpinballa posted:

lol of course spooks are falling for the old "finest milking cow" routine!

https://twitter.com/GinSecurities/status/1193932126904815616?s=19

the bullshit cows i hated were left unmolested :mad:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the authoritarian dictator ruling with an ironfist

*is trivially deposed effortlessly by the military with no internal military or police resistance*

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

comedyblissoption posted:

the venezuela coup was organized though and had basically the entire western world's governments and media recognize guaido over venezuela, cutting venezuela's diplomatic and financial ties and doing poo poo like outright stealing billions of dollars of assets

i assume guaido somehow convinced spooks and the trump administration he had domestic support that he didnt have

oh yeah, what happened to that billion dollars in gold the bank of london transferred over to guaido. i assume he's keeping it in trust for the people

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

comedyblissoption posted:

the authoritarian dictator ruling with an ironfist

*is trivially deposed effortlessly by the military with no internal military or police resistance*

really makes you think twice about the idea that any nation on this planet is just going to peacefully vote in socialism successfully

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
American leftists should think long and hard about this before they attempt to force Bernie Sanders on the country, against the will of the people

THS
Sep 15, 2017

cool that any and all development gains made under Morales will now be reversed because the Bolivian right and their cronies will all loot the country and implement austerity

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

THS posted:

cool that any and all development gains made under Morales will now be reversed because the Bolivian right and their cronies will all loot the country and implement austerity

we will be told that this is because of morales mismanagement of the country's assets

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019


the avi, the bio, the CIA apologia, the idrees ahmad retweets...she has formulated the most perfectly sufferable account possible, bravo

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Sorry about my unfair election everybody, Military saying it was not a good look and reflects poorly on all the other indians

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Lightning Knight posted:

mother jones is poo poo other than that one guy who does deep cover stories
Shane Bauer, the probable CIA agent?

efb i shouldnt reply to stuff before i finish catching up

genericnick posted:

Wasn't he the Iran hiker?
Edit:
In July 2009, Bauer and two companions (Joshua Fattal and Sarah Shourd) were arrested by Iranian border guards after straying into Iran while hiking in northern Iraq near the Iranian border.
Mysteriously crossed the iran border while "on a hike," on the side of US-sponsored regime change in every case that comes up, and frequently attacks critics of US foreign policy. He's rear end

Fast Luck has issued a correction as of 18:23 on Nov 11, 2019

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

the military coup is terrible, but

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Way to tell on yourself then, 'cuz I'm mostly referring to the D&D doctrine of "respect nationals no matter what."

There's also a weird sort of racist patronizing angle to that sort of thing, because these same people would likely rightfully scoff at someone being like "as a person from France, you must trust my judgement on all French politics and cannot contest anything I say."

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Al! posted:

liberals are racist and believe a priori that south americans can't be trusted to run their own elections and therefore will believe any right wing coup is justified

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Way to tell on yourself then, 'cuz I'm mostly referring to the D&D doctrine of "respect nationals no matter what."

love how quickly they forgot all the "AS A VENEZUELAN I WILL WELCOME AMERICA AS LIBERATORS" accounts that mysteriously vanished the second the coup failed

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Fast Luck posted:

Shane Bauer, the probable CIA agent?

efb i shouldnt reply to stuff before i finish catching up

Mysteriously crossed the iran border while "on a hike," on the side of US-sponsored regime change in every case that comes up, and frequently attacks critics of US foreign policy. He's rear end

I didn’t know these were all the same guy ngl

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Al! posted:

looking forward to bernie sanders being deposed by a military junta because of "voting irregularities" and liberals defending the reimposition of the lesser of two evils, donald trump

As long as you can name a single thing that could possibly be considered "somewhat fishy" and can't absolutely prove it's not true, it is justifiable to overthrow a government with force.

That is why liberals also supported a coup against the Obama administration.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1193901191425478656

Ytlaya posted:

As long as you can name a single thing that could possibly be considered "somewhat fishy" and can't absolutely prove it's not true, it is justifiable to overthrow a government with force.

That is why liberals also supported a coup against the Obama administration.

even if it's not fishy as all, as long as you say it is it's fine

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

comedyblissoption posted:

the authoritarian dictator ruling with an ironfist

*is trivially deposed effortlessly by the military with no internal military or police resistance*

it's one of the funniest things about the whole situation lol

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Al! posted:

oh yeah, what happened to that billion dollars in gold the bank of london transferred over to guaido. i assume he's keeping it in trust for the people

speaking of that, does anyone know what happens to your money after filling up at Citgo?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
this whole situation just shows that facts don't matter and at heart libs are irredeemable garbage who will never stop searching for a reason to support the fash until they either find or invent one

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Al! posted:

liberals are racist and believe a priori that south americans can't be trusted to run their own elections and therefore will believe any right wing coup is justified

Look, if we let them actually improve their lot in life the next thing you know WJ is going to finally have to pay the maid

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

npr this afternoon talked w/ bbc south american correspondent katie whatever and used the word coup a single time to start the segment framing yesterday's events as morales resigned amidst accusations of electoral fraud, morales supporters say he was couped

they predictably framed the events yesterday the entire rest of the segment as morales resigning and the military asking him to step down. they concern trolled by wondering out loud who is in charge and what is going to happen even though the opposition has now gained the executive power

npr also gaslighted its audience by being forthright enough to say morales was calling for new elections right before he resigned

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 20 days!)

Gunshow Poophole posted:

libs gonna lib on my feeds



almost to a T the "well secret murders, frogmarches by masked men and burning down homes are OK, but WHAT ABOUT THE TERM LIMITS"

I don't think the vast majority of people even know that the BBC is a Tory media outlet now.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

comedyblissoption posted:

npr this afternoon talked w/ bbc south american correspondent katie whatever and used the word coup a single time to start the segment framing yesterday's events as morales resigned amidst accusations of electoral fraud, morales supporters say he was couped

they predictably framed the events yesterday the entire rest of the segment as morales resigning and the military asking him to step down. they concern trolled by wondering out loud who is in charge and what is going to happen even though the opposition has now gained the executive power

npr also gaslighted its audience by being forthright enough to say morales was calling for new elections right before he resigned


"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing."

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Yinlock posted:

love how quickly they forgot all the "AS A VENEZUELAN I WILL WELCOME AMERICA AS LIBERATORS" accounts that mysteriously vanished the second the coup failed

including the guy who uses sock puppet accounts to agree with himself in d&d, definitely not wannabee spook behavior

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 20 days!)

Cerebral Bore posted:

this whole situation just shows that facts don't matter and at heart libs are irredeemable garbage who will never stop searching for a reason to support the fash until they either find or invent one

Liberals are trained to believe that democracy is a legalistic construct that falls apart if you don't strictly respect its procedural proscriptions, and not a government that's been ratified by its electorate. They'd put their own mothers into Rikers if you could convince them that they're violating the constitution.

So the strategy of doing legalistic coups since Honduras has been wildly successful. Anything that comes afterwards no matter how violent and reactionary is always retroactively justified by the emergency powers necessitated by a constitutional crisis. The only reason any of them didn't like Bolsonaro is because Bolsonaro hates gay people, and liberals are supposed to like gay people.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
im beginning to think that "latin americans can't have nice things" is a prescription by the liberals in that thread and not a cry of disappointment

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Liberals are trained to believe that democracy is a legalistic construct that falls apart if you don't strictly respect its procedural proscriptions, and not a government that's been ratified by its electorate. They'd put their own mothers into Rikers if you could convince them that they're violating the constitution.

So the strategy of doing legalistic coups since Honduras has been wildly successful. Anything that comes afterwards no matter how violent and reactionary is always retroactively justified by the emergency powers necessitated by a constitutional crisis. The only reason any of them didn't like Bolsonaro is because Bolsonaro hates gay people, and liberals are supposed to like gay people.

even then no one cares that Bolsonaro also got elected through what is effectively a coup himself

The Unnamed One
Jan 13, 2012

"BOOM!"

Al! posted:

im beginning to think that "latin americans can't have nice things" is a prescription by the liberals in that thread and not a cry of disappointment

Pretty sure the goon who started that thread loves Pinochet

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
the arguments are the exact same rope-a-dope as venezuela: "i dont neccessarily agree with the coup but if you take their arguments at face value and refuse to look at any counter arguments the coup is entirely justified. not that im justifying it, honest"

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