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Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
Bolivian indigenous groups are marching through the streets chanting 'the time is now, civil war'

https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1193983796259041280

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Al! posted:

"human rights" organization chess dude basically just making poo poo up about food riots in bolivia

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1194003124974952449

Please Coup!

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
i like that this guy, a bolivian living in the united states with extensive ties to bolivia but who recognizes that their centrist family is just spouting bullshit

Spice World War II posted:

She, and a lot of other Bolivians, might greatly enjoy their ethnostate; after all, plenty of people were fine with it pre-Morales, too. Three quarters of my family live in various cities in Bolivia. Not everyone in the opposition is a full on cosplaying Nazi, but you have to be willfully blind to not notice the cosplaying Nazi type is part of it just by going to social media, and they have such a long and proud tradition too! You have to be even more willfully blind to claim that it took the hundreds of jubilant facebook posts and tweets of "democratic opposition" accounts filming themselves taking down, burning or ripping wiphalas of their uniforms for you to notice that a very ugly anti-indigenous sentiment has been a part of the opposition basically from the day Morales took office. Hell, plenty of them promised to do just that publically well in advance!.

Morales election sent a shock to a lot of people in the same way that the "refugee crisis" in Europe did, only on a larger scale: it made people feel like suddenly there are 6 million more people, 51% of the combined populace, that demand to fully participate in society, not just one tenth of a percent. After all, he's building fancy cable car public transit for those people, and my pension is too low! My family has both moderate Morales supporters and moderate opponents, and all of them would probably qualify as either well-meaning-liberals or very-compassionate-conservatives in the US or EU, none of them would actually support this; and still just reading the social media feeds of everyone flushed soo much anti-indigenous sentiments into my timelines. (I deleted facebook etc. like two years ago, so this was all before this insanity, too).

The thing is though, no one on the center or center-right spectrum ever had to justify themselves for working with the far-right to defeat the evils of a socialist "authoritarian", that poo poo only applies to those on the left.

got completely ignored

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Maximo Roboto posted:

he's Argentine. John Paul II died in 2005.

No i mean I live around a bunch of poles

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

Mister Bates posted:

Bolivian indigenous groups are marching through the streets chanting 'the time is now, civil war'

https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1193983796259041280

I hope they crucify all those demon crackers.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
pro-coup police and military have apparently been responding mostly with rubber bullets and other 'less-lethal' weapons but in at least one instance so far they opened fire with live ammunition, wounding several people and killing at least one.

Morales' supporters are so far basically unarmed, there's been some pretty heavy clashes but for the most part they're just using sticks and rocks and other improvised implements.

Cockblocktopus
Apr 18, 2009

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.


I came to this thread to read up on what's going on because my Latin American Politics professor a decade ago hated Morales and I know that I have a lot of gaps in my Bolivia knowledge.

But I stayed for the OP which is a masterpiece. This thread is beautiful.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I hope they crucify all those demon crackers.

Mister Panos
Jan 26, 2011

really queer Christmas posted:

It's been said many times before this, and it will get said many times after this but

death to america

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I hope they crucify all those demon crackers.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mister Bates posted:

pro-coup police and military have apparently been responding mostly with rubber bullets and other 'less-lethal' weapons but in at least one instance so far they opened fire with live ammunition, wounding several people and killing at least one.

Morales' supporters are so far basically unarmed, there's been some pretty heavy clashes but for the most part they're just using sticks and rocks and other improvised implements.

I wonder why people would be suspicious of this military coup?

Since military coups in Latin America have always been done with the best intentions and with zero foreign influence at all.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

https://twitter.com/RichardStock/status/1194031335469268993?s=20

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I hope they crucify all those demon crackers.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Al! posted:

"human rights" organization chess dude basically just making poo poo up about food riots in bolivia

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1194003124974952449

Always a good and funny time 2 point out that kasparov champions "new chronology," a historical theory that says the years 500-1500 ad never happened and they were all made up by the pope

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Ah yes, those Harvard educated small business owners in Bolivia.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I hope they crucify all those demon crackers.

Marg bar amrika

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
I'm not sure what your specific criticism of the military is, as far as I'm aware the only way its gotten involved so far was by releasing a statement. Of course there must have been a lot of maneuvering in the background but there's no way for us to know what happened at this time. In crises like these when one part of the government is blatantly violating laws and norms there's never going to be an easy solution.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
yea i gotta say that even for dnd i didn't expect outright coup denial

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/JimfromBC/status/1194026952400633856?s=20

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Cerebral Bore posted:

yea i gotta say that even for dnd i didn't expect outright coup denial

lol the same crowd showed up with guaido tried to coup maduro to say that wasn't a coup either. No Coup! You're the coup!!

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

joepinetree posted:

Ah yes, those Harvard educated small business owners in Bolivia.

You could slap that exact same post on a searchbar on twitter a few hours ago and you'd get a torrent of bots saying the exact same poo poo.

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

https://twitter.com/JhanisseVDaza/status/1193980096459227138?s=20

those cia alligator tears

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
hrm. yes. okay.

https://twitter.com/AndeanInfoNet/status/1189963356209328128

makes sense.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

joepinetree posted:

Ah yes, those Harvard educated small business owners in Bolivia.

I too often put hashtags before my country when texting

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/WASBAPPIN/status/1194038937334927361?s=20

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

https://twitter.com/IPM_HQ/status/1194046950783561728

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

like the thousands of guys in the streets declaring civil war?

1982 Subaru Brat
Feb 2, 2007

by Athanatos

Well it's good to have absolute 100% final confirmation that this guy is an intelligence asset

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

good to know that of all the things that are BAPPIN a coup is not one of them.

it’s just the Military going one by one through the line of succession making everybody resign until somebody agreeable to them takes power. Not a coup. Totally different.

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
Kinda Interesting that there was basically a chain of "Ilhan Omar calls it a coup" -> "AOC calls it a coup" -> "Bernie calls it a coup." Seems like it might be a water testing media strategy.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Algund Eenboom posted:

Always a good and funny time 2 point out that kasparov champions "new chronology," a historical theory that says the years 500-1500 ad never happened and they were all made up by the pope

he knows theres recorded history in other parts of the world from that ti-you know what nevermind

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1193673879274893312?s=21

McFaul deleted the tweet lmao

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

I guess it would be in character for this here person to support a coup headed by literal white supremacists.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Algund Eenboom posted:

Always a good and funny time 2 point out that kasparov champions "new chronology," a historical theory that says the years 500-1500 ad never happened and they were all made up by the pope

okokok running at this again, if those years were imaginary then how does he explain how pretty much every cathedral in europe was built in that 1000 year span

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Algund Eenboom posted:

Always a good and funny time 2 point out that kasparov champions "new chronology," a historical theory that says the years 500-1500 ad never happened and they were all made up by the pope

Holy poo poo, does that mean the Eastern Roman Empire is still around?:hellyeah:

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Al! posted:

okokok running at this again, if those years were imaginary then how does he explain how pretty much every cathedral in europe was built in that 1000 year span

Actually thats wrong. They were built after that. Youre wrong

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

Majorian posted:

Holy poo poo, does that mean the Eastern Roman Empire is still around?:hellyeah:

No, but only because Attaturk dissolved it.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

I remember a couple of months ago there was a paper published by economists saying that there were always these bumps in stock in CIA-affiliated companies just before a coup, even without the coup not having happened yet, just because of the expectation of making money off of it

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Cockblocktopus posted:

I came to this thread to read up on what's going on because my Latin American Politics professor a decade ago hated Morales and I know that I have a lot of gaps in my Bolivia knowledge.

But I stayed for the OP which is a masterpiece. This thread is beautiful.

I mostly come here to pontificate tbh

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Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
https://twitter.com/evoespueblo/status/1194059795365543936?s=20

King

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