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I can't actually remember how much [RAM] my first PC had, but not much (IBM AT).. first one I built from random parts had 4MB, that much I remember well
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Rig Chat: First computer I built myself was a 386DX/33 w/ 4MB of Ram, and a huge 120MB Quantum HDD, ATI Mach 64 Video and some SVGA monitor. Oh those where the days.
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Nov 11, 2019 15:14
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HalloKitty posted:I can't actually remember how much my first PC had, but not much (IBM AT).. first one I built from random parts had 4MB, that much I remember well
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Nov 11, 2019 15:21
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My first one was an 8088 with a whole megabyte of RAM. Woooo.
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Nov 11, 2019 15:59
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Amiga 500 with 512kB RAM, later upgraded to 1MB with the underside upgrade port 
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Nov 11, 2019 16:45
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Well, if we're leaving the x86 realm, I had a Commodore C64, too. --edit: Come to think of it, the disparity in performance is pretty loving hilarious. Both in CPU performance and also solely graphics side, in pixels per second. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Nov 11, 2019 |
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Nov 11, 2019 17:22
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priznat posted:Amiga 500 with 512kB RAM, later upgraded to 1MB with the underside upgrade port Same.  Good times.Don't forget the Cumana external 3,5" drive.
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Nov 11, 2019 19:41
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:Same. I had a dual one that had the LEDs showing what sector it was accessing and it owned for  Amigas were one of the few computers where giving it a love tap would sometimes work too as the 68k cpu would sometimes lift out of the socket and a hearty whack on the top of the case would sometimes reseat it. Of course once I got a torx screwdriver to get in the case that was less necessary. After a guru meditation error.  Amiga, you were cool and good.
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Nov 11, 2019 19:58
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My current PC has more cache than my first computer had total storage.
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Nov 11, 2019 23:45
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We get it. You’re all old.
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Nov 12, 2019 08:32
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Is the Ryzen 5 3500U a decent mobile chip? I’m looking to get a basic 2-in-1 to use for work, mostly Office apps and Bluebeam Revu for PDF markups. I found posts from earlier in the year where it seemed like software support via drivers, etc, were poor for the mobile Ryzens but wasn’t sure if that’s still the case.
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Nov 12, 2019 18:13
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SourKraut posted:Is the Ryzen 5 3500U a decent mobile chip? I’m looking to get a basic 2-in-1 to use for work, mostly Office apps and Bluebeam Revu for PDF markups. I found posts from earlier in the year where it seemed like software support via drivers, etc, were poor for the mobile Ryzens but wasn’t sure if that’s still the case. Make sure the laptop is running its memory in Dual Channel.
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Nov 12, 2019 18:22
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I can't speak to the driver support, but battery life is measurably worse than intel mobile chips. I'm sure this will change, but as much as I like AMD, I wouldn't necessarily recommend an AMD powered laptop right now.
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Nov 12, 2019 18:23
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My IBM XT was ancient when I got it. But I am still old. Its 8088 CPU was AMD-made at least?
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Nov 12, 2019 18:32
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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-benchmark-leaks-from-dell-alienware-aurora-desktop Diffefent versions of geekbench is no bueno but I'm happy to take any news at this point. Excited to build an AMD box for the first time since the 3000+!
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Nov 13, 2019 00:18
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I got a 3600 for 175 along with a x570 msi board but now I'm reading that there's whea issues work 570 and Nvidia gpus. Are these issues still prevalent? May just return the board and get an x470 or go for Intel if so
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Nov 13, 2019 22:14
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ChazTurbo posted:I got a 3600 for 175 along with a x570 msi board but now I'm reading that there's whea issues work 570 and Nvidia gpus. Are these issues still prevalent? May just return the board and get an x470 or go for Intel if so Don't think this has been an issue since August or so and even then it didn't seem very widespread.
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Nov 13, 2019 22:28
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Lead Psychiatry posted:Don't think this has been an issue since August or so and even then it didn't seem very widespread. Sweet. I guess I was antsy but I wasn't sure since a lot of the goggle results were from July. Thanks
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Nov 14, 2019 02:06
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ChazTurbo posted:I got a 3600 for 175 along with a x570 msi board but now I'm reading that there's whea issues work 570 and Nvidia gpus. Are these issues still prevalent? May just return the board and get an x470 or go for Intel if so
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Nov 14, 2019 07:04
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The 3950X is out, 16 cores CPUs are mainstream now!  https://www.anandtech.com/show/15043/the-amd-ryzen-9-3950x-review-16-cores-on-7nm-with-pcie-40
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Nov 14, 2019 15:43
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I don't think $700+ processors are mainstream
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Nov 14, 2019 16:27
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Mu Zeta posted:I don't think $700+ processors are mainstream It will probably sell pretty well, too. I agree that it won't be all that common. Khorne fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Nov 14, 2019 16:45
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Here's a review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stM2CPF9YAY&hd=1 It's VERY good.
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Nov 14, 2019 16:46
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I can't think of anything that needs to be a video less than a review of a processor.
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Nov 14, 2019 17:54
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Mozi posted:When I switch to Power Saver plan from Ryzen Balanced I drop down 10 degrees to 45 from 55, so that's definitely doing something. Your CPU temperatures are 100% normal, stop fiddling. Nothing is wrong. And setting the CPU fan to 100% at 50°C is absurd. Lambert fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Nov 14, 2019 17:56
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If your CPU doesn't hit 90 under load, then don't worry about it.
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Nov 14, 2019 17:59
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Well now I know what I'm gonna get myself for Christmas to upgrade from my 2700x 
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Nov 14, 2019 19:06
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Lambert posted:Your CPU temperatures are 100% normal, stop fiddling. Nothing is wrong. And setting the CPU fan to 100% at 50°C is absurd. Yeah I know, that was just a test. I put it back to normal. I would have been happy to believe they were normal, but when I checked online elsewhere the temps seemed much higher than others were reporting, so that's why I asked about it. But as I posted later, I hadn't actually installed the new chipset drivers, and upon doing so the temps seemed fine. Dramicus posted:If your CPU doesn't hit 90 under load, then don't worry about it. MSI Afterburner had reported a max of 94, which was weird, but it also seems to report higher temps than Ryzen Master anyways. And again it's lower now after installing the drivers. Still kind of warm but I don't care.
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Mozi posted:Yeah I know, that was just a test. I put it back to normal. Your idling temperatures absolutely are normal for that CPU. Ryzen Master shows lower temperatures, maybe people are reporting those. But if you're going by something like HWMonitor, everything you're reporting sounds normal. These CPUs have pretty high idle temperatures, my 3800x is in the 35°-45° range while doing nothing and with my fan at ~650 RPM (Noctua NH-U14s, so way bigger cooler). Lambert fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Nov 14, 2019 19:56
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Stanley Pain posted:Well now I know what I'm gonna get myself for Christmas to upgrade from my 2700x You know, I was gonna cobble together a system made of castoffs and odds and ends because I am legit already building three other computers this holiday season, but I get the feeling that 3950Xes are going to be out of stock from an hour ago until the end of time. :hmmm:
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Nov 14, 2019 20:40
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There should be a few used 3900xes popping up here and there from rich folk or top-of-the-line musthavers stepping up to the best they can get on AM4.
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Nov 14, 2019 21:18
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Alright so the 3950x reviews have me fully erect, but I really need the Threadripper 3 benchmarks for the happy ending. When can we expect those reviews to drop?
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Nov 14, 2019 22:31
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November 19th, IIRC.
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Nov 14, 2019 22:36
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i need nibbles of that 64 core teaser straight to my veins i'll never afford it but holy poo poo that in a single socket at a reasonably high clock 
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Nice to see AMD atone for its Bulldozer sins by giving us some hot, tasty product.Stanley Pain posted:Well now I know what I'm gonna get myself for Christmas to upgrade from my 2700x Can X470 even handle a 3950X? I thought the 3900X was the upper limit of what the VRMs on most X470 boards could tolerate without melting down. Lambert posted:Your idling temperatures absolutely are normal for that CPU. Ryzen Master shows lower temperatures, maybe people are reporting those. But if you're going by something like HWMonitor, everything you're reporting sounds normal. These CPUs have pretty high idle temperatures, my 3800x is in the 35°-45° range while doing nothing and with my fan at ~650 RPM (Noctua NH-U14s, so way bigger cooler). HWInfo always shows temps bouncing between 35° and 45° at idle, with spikes up to 50° when poo poo's getting done. And that's with a beefy Noctua NH-D15S stuck inside of a vanity case with compromised airflow (NZXT H500). In other words, poo poo's normal.
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Chipset only vaguely correlates to VRM quality. The general trend is towards slightly beefier VRMs as time goes (thanks Buildzoid), but there are X370 boards that will run a 3950X no problem and there are X570 boards that will throttle under a 3950X too.
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Nov 15, 2019 05:44
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Balliver Shagnasty posted:Can X470 even handle a 3950X? I thought the 3900X was the upper limit of what the VRMs on most X470 boards could tolerate without melting down. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=611478281 It's a little hit or miss, and is missing some granularity (I kinda think handles and handles well are different, you know?) but yeah X470 has some good ones and some bad ones.
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Nov 15, 2019 06:10
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Spiderdrake posted:There's a long analysis here: Thanks. 
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Nov 15, 2019 06:21
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The 3950X TDP isn't that much higher than that of the 2700X the 400-series mainboards were made for, so unless you're super serious about overclocking for the last 2% of performance for another 20% of power/heat (numbers made up but OC is even less useful now than on the previous Ryzens) I don't see why people keep assuming B450/X470 are going to explode running the new 16-core part. People always quote Buildzoid or whatever and get hysterical about VRMs but if you're just running your CPU at stock settings (ie. without PBO or other auto-OC options) even midrange boards are usually fine.
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The 3950X even has a Eco mode that can be enabled via a Windows power plan. It caps the power consumption at 65W cTDP for ~75% of the stock CPU performance. On paper this should let the 3950X run on first gen, 4-phase A320 potato mainboards as long as they're compatible. I'm not sure if AMD will allow it though.
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