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Pollyanna: Mar 5, 2005; Milk's on them.

Bryan is super hung ho about this �it�s time to grow your audience� thing when the match was clearly a one-time special thing that followed a hugely story-laden match that was arguably even more terrifying and violent. It�s a drop in the ocean and Bryan is making a mountain out of a molehill here for some ineffable reason.

Also the lights out match had hells of story, it�s had the most long-running and common thread throughout the show�s first few eps so far. I don�t understand why Bryan thinks there�s no story to it, it�s been almost all buildup.

I�ve seen better technical work, for sure, but somehow I don�t think that was the point of the match.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 02:20

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 00:41

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

JT Smiley posted:

I don't get why people are so worked up over all this. Who cares what they rate a match if you personally enjoy?

It's reaaaaaaaally not hard to grasp that their response to this match is uniquely over the top and childish.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 02:21

Seams: Feb 3, 2005; ROCK HARD

I thought Bryan's point was that there was no story in the match itself, it was just Mox and Omega hitting each other with poo poo. I'd argue that the story was Omega constantly trying to one-up Moxley at his own game but coming up short in the end because Mox is too dumb and so damned crazy to lose a match like that.

But whatever. Podcast man didnt like match so what.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 02:23

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

i was more taken with vinny's "i was bored because i've seen it all before" which is a hot take

# ? Nov 12, 2019 02:38

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Seams posted:

I thought Bryan's point was that there was no story in the match itself, it was just Mox and Omega hitting each other with poo poo. I'd argue that the story was Omega constantly trying to one-up Moxley at his own game but coming up short in the end because Mox is too dumb and so damned crazy to lose a match like that.

But whatever. Podcast man didnt like match so what.

That�s pretty much my take as well. They can like or not like the match and we can argue all we want about the UFC reporter thinking a gimmicked death match is too dangerous, but saying there�s no story is absurd.

Also the bit about Omega coming from the extreme CZW scene was real weird and completely contrary both to reality and to the stated story.

I don�t really get wasting time being mad about someone not liking something you like though.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 02:42

Aye Doc: Jul 19, 2007

Jordan7hm posted:

I don’t really get wasting time being mad about someone not liking something you like though.

what the hell else are these forums for

# ? Nov 12, 2019 02:47

STAC Goat: Mar 12, 2008; Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I've now transitioned into the age old rational internet position of just hating the match I haven't seen because I'm sick of everyone talking about it.

Its the circle of the internet.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 02:51

illcendiary: Dec 4, 2005; Damn, this is good coffee.

A way more interesting point of discussion on the podcast was how the Full Gear numbers will turn out, and how AEW's PPV buys will relate to their TV numbers and their initial pre-TV run of PPVs. That is to say, having a TV show might end up depressing PPV buys relative to those first couple because the general public has multiple avenues to watch these guys now. It's a good problem to have and probably worth keeping in mind in case people decide to freak out about a lower than expected number later this week.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 02:52

GoutPatrol: Oct 17, 2009; *Stupid Babby*

The_Rob posted:

Dave has the strongest posters spirit I�ve ever seen. All that man does is post.

He writes the great gatsby every week, imagine if posting was his real job.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 03:26

STING 64: Oct 20, 2006

Lid posted:

i was more taken with vinny's "i was bored because i've seen it all before" which is a hot take

vinny has watched a lot of juggalo championship wrestling

# ? Nov 12, 2019 03:49

davidbix: Jun 14, 2016; Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Jordan7hm posted:

Also the bit about Omega coming from the extreme CZW scene was real weird and completely contrary both to reality and to the stated story.

That was weird, as was Dave's "actually, wait, Omega did his hardcore U.S. indie run in JAPW, sorry about that" follow-up in the daily update when Omega's run was in workrate matches at the title match level a decade after JAPW dropped extreme/death match stuff. And I still can't get over saying it went "five times farther" than BJPW. You don't need to be current on the death match scene to know that this was significantly tamer than the promotion that opened up with poo poo like the piranha death match and has only gotten more gruesome since.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 04:07

The_Rob: Feb 1, 2007; Blah blah blah blah!!

davidbix posted:

That was weird, as was Dave's "actually, wait, Omega did his hardcore U.S. indie run in JAPW, sorry about that" follow-up in the daily update when Omega's run was in workrate matches at the title match level a decade after JAPW dropped extreme/death match stuff. And I still can't get over saying it went "five times farther" than BJPW. You don't need to be current on the death match scene to know that this was significantly tamer than the promotion that opened up with poo poo like the piranha death match and has only gotten more gruesome since.

Yeah until I see a Kenzan, or Sakuda getting a needle through both of his cheeks. I�m gonna say Dave is pretty clueless here.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 04:25

MJeff: Jun 2, 2011; THE LIAR

Gaz-L posted:

Not explicitly no. But it's implicit in every 'god, haven't you watched every Onita match or all of BJW's last year?' response, as if people who don't like deathmatch wrestling are required to have watched all of it to have an opinion.

People only mentioned BJW in direct response to the assertion that this was worse than BJW.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 04:26

MassRafTer: May 26, 2001; BAEST MODE!!!

It is everyone's sacred duty to vote Mox vs Omega as MOTY in the Observer Awards.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 04:48

davidbix: Jun 14, 2016; Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

The_Rob posted:

Yeah until I see a Kenzan, or Sakuda getting a needle through both of his cheeks. I�m gonna say Dave is pretty clueless here.

I hate to say it, and I'm not trying to "OK, boomer" him or anything like that, but this is kind of exposing how much Dave relies on his memory and how much that could be a liability as he ages. I mean, I've also benefitted journalistically and as a historian from having a weirdly great long-term memory, too, and I'd hate to lose that when I get older, but I've also been building a massive digital trove of historical documents and resources over the years, while Dave...just kind of relies on his memory and his own writings. As big a fan of Kenny Omega as he is, thinking that Omega did a lot of death matches in the Delaware valley is...really weird and maybe even concerning? I'm probably overreacting, but it's such a specifically weird mistake to make.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 04:52

a big fat bunny: Oct 4, 2002; woo look at 'em gonk

MassRafTer posted:

It is everyone's sacred duty to vote Mox vs Omega as MOTY in the Observer Awards.

finally a democratic platform i can get behind

# ? Nov 12, 2019 05:14

Hopkins FBI: Jan 4, 2015; MY SACRED POSTING VOW IS NOTHING, FOR WHILE I STAKED MY HONOR UPON MY COMMITMENT TO NEVER SUPPORT JOSEPH R. B. JUNIOR I HAVE SCANDALOUSLY ABANDONED MY PRINCIPLES

You heard it here first, folks. Shave Seltzer is dying of brain dementia.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 05:17

MJeff: Jun 2, 2011; THE LIAR

MassRafTer posted:

It is everyone's sacred duty to vote Mox vs Omega as MOTY in the Observer Awards.

I'm going to learn how to vote in the Observer Awards specifically to do this.

Semi-related, somebody tell me how to vote in the Observer Awards.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 05:19

davidbix: Jun 14, 2016; Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Hopkins FBI posted:

You heard it here first, folks. Shave Seltzer is dying of brain dementia.

pfft

# ? Nov 12, 2019 05:20

MJeff: Jun 2, 2011; THE LIAR

Disgusted with Bix for violating HIPPO by revealing Dave's condition.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 05:23

Incessant Excess: Aug 15, 2005; Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

Should've skirted around it and just made vague allusions to it, like Dave does with Vince.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 05:25

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK: Sep 11, 2008; Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola
-Cheap Trick; Nap Ghost

MassRafTer posted:

It is everyone's sacred duty to vote Mox vs Omega as MOTY in the Observer Awards.

the Janela/Starr ironman deathmatch from Americanrana was better

# ? Nov 12, 2019 06:15

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

MJeff posted:

I'm going to learn how to vote in the Observer Awards specifically to do this.

Semi-related, somebody tell me how to vote in the Observer Awards.

It's open to all subscribers, you just email your ballot to Dave using the copy-paste format he'll post in the newsletter.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 06:36

John Dudebro: Dec 3, 2013

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:

the RD Evans/Orange Cassidy match from Americanrana was better

# ? Nov 12, 2019 06:54

oblique: Sep 20, 2001; Like me, they have no way to go but up.

I didn't like the match at all but I'm glad that other people loved it. Dave and Bryan's responses to the match were weird but I don't think they were in bad faith.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 08:38

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

Dave�s kinda walking back his Omega/Mox hate on WOR this morning :xd:

so kudos to whoever called that one

# ? Nov 12, 2019 11:04

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

Oh my loving god the This Is Your Life segment story :xd:

# ? Nov 12, 2019 11:58

TelevisedInsanity: Dec 19, 2008; "You'll never know if you can fly unless you take the risk of falling."

jesus WEP posted:

Dave�s kinda walking back his Omega/Mox hate on WOR this morning so kudos to whoever called that one

we were thinking a few months or be retreated, not a few days.

but then again, Dave is gonna Dave!

# ? Nov 12, 2019 12:07

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

jesus WEP posted:

Oh my loving god the This Is Your Life segment story

Absolutely loving INCREDIBLE.

Vince HATED that segment, to the point he wanted to run down to the ring and stop it while it was in progress, and was being talked down by guys in the back. When the rating came in, Rock and Mankind went to his office to rub it in his face but he wasn't there.... until they realized he was hiding behind the couch :laffo:

Also I loved the segment where they started running through the scenarios of Ricochet trying to date Randy Orton's daughter :laugh:

# ? Nov 12, 2019 12:54

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

Jerusalem posted:

Absolutely loving INCREDIBLE.

Vince HATED that segment, to the point he wanted to run down to the ring and stop it while it was in progress, and was being talked down by guys in the back. When the rating came in, Rock and Mankind went to his office to rub it in his face but he wasn't there.... until they realized he was hiding behind the couch

Also I loved the segment where they started running through the scenarios of Ricochet trying to date Randy Orton's daughter

I enjoyed that Dave kept bringing up the 15lb matchka baby and aleksandr Karelin

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:06

OctoberCountry: Oct 9, 2012

jesus WEP posted:

Dave�s kinda walking back his Omega/Mox hate on WOR this morning so kudos to whoever called that one

lol Bryan got so pissy at that

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:16

Orange Carlisle: Jul 14, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYoksGziKZU

lol at the part where dave is like "I've seen this argument so many times" and Bryan responds "You need to hang out with a different crowd, dude."

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:32

Seams: Feb 3, 2005; ROCK HARD

That WOR is an all-timer. Bryan getting salty over Dave moderating his opinion somewhat about Mox/Omega, 15lb matchka baby, the Vince story, Ricochet cheating on his partner by dating Orton�s daughter to impress Daddy Randall, Bryan�s �you need to hang out with different people�.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:47

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

Yeah I actually didn�t really like the first ten minutes because I�ve already heard and read like 10x more words about Mox/Omega than I wanted to, but the Raw recap was hilarious from start to finish

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:49

TheKingslayer: Sep 3, 2008

Seams posted:

Ricochet cheating on his partner by dating Orton�s daughter to impress Daddy Randall

What the gently caress?

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:49

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

This is such an unsafe deathmatch. For example, the two wrestling moves they did.

(Which agreed, that ddt looked scary as hell.)

Dave gotta Dave, and I�m not going to complain.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:52

OctoberCountry: Oct 9, 2012

TheKingslayer posted:

What the gently caress?

Not only that, he brought her home past her curfew

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:53

ICHIBAHN: Feb 21, 2007; by Cyrano4747

Hell yeah Bryan is super hung

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:53

TheKingslayer: Sep 3, 2008

OctoberCountry posted:

Not only that, he brought her home past her curfew

I'm not sure I want to know if it's a story or a shoot. Curfew doesn't make her sound... of age.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:54

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 00:41

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

You, American, idiot: A parent can�t impose their will on an adult child
Me, Irish, intellectual:

https://twitter.com/nocontextirish/status/1191399948664868867?s=21

# ? Nov 12, 2019 13:58

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