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Bundy posted:Is there an ever growing larger Do you know what Michaela is because if you don't, the fact that she's the headmistress of it gives it soooo much context. This is an insane private school that specialises in turning children into sub-sentient androids who march in perfect order and never speak.
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Bundy posted:Sharing from Discord because  OwlFancier posted:I don't necessarily mind if Ms A's Kink Korner becomes a thread feature. 
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Everyone has to start somewhere, the examples of activism* in this thread convinced me to do the bare minimum and write to my local politician about some issues. They're independent so I can even expect it to get read. Again, not in the UK though. Also I don't know how you all keep up with this thread, it feels like there's hundreds of new posts every time I wake up. *It's probably a bad thing that I'm not entirely sure if that's the right word, because it sounds right and the definition matches but it feels like it has a negative connotation
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Guavanaut posted:I've had doctors react in polar opposites of either "well if codeine doesn't work then you'll have to sort it out yourself" (which it was good to know that Paramol existed for) or writing a prescription for an honestly frighteningly sized tub of tramadol, so I guess it varies. Tramadol definitely does work, but sometimes too well. Low dose extended release morphine (the little Blame the WHO pain relief ladder, and drug-seekers. Slow release morphine is objectively a better painkiller than any of the weak opioids, but we aren't meant to prescribe strong opioids until you've already tried and failed on a weak one. Also junkies will grind them up and snort/inject them, so doctors are a lot more reluctant to give them out. Sanitary Naptime posted:While we’re talking pain relief, what the gently caress is actually good for sciatica, because I’ve been barely able to walk the past two days and lmao if you think I can get a doctors appointment for a sore back (leg, whatever, all I know is I can feel spine pain as far down as my loving knee) That you can get over-the-counter? Regular ibuprofen is probably your best bet to knock down the inflammation, but you'll want to take it alongside an anti-acid like ranitidine or esomeprazole to stop it giving you a stomach ulcer. You can also take paracetamol with it. You need to take it regularly for a few days for the anti-inflammatory effect to start kicking in though.
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As a quick note for people out canvassing, something we've found has worked pretty well re: brexit is characterising Johnson's deal as coming with a pile more negotiation, that we're not really set to leave, we'll be stuck in a transition arrangement for ages. Labour's promise is to get brexit done one way or another within six months, if they're remainy offer them the second referendum, if they're leavey tell them that they should vote for that and that more of labour are likely to support leave if it protects jobs in the process, and they'll get something they know the specifics of within six months.
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jabby posted:You need to take it regularly for a few days for the anti-inflammatory effect to start kicking in though. For toothache, or at all? I'm 39 and this is the first time I've heard this instruction, is "headache, 2 ibuprofen, better later" pure placebo?
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Guavanaut posted:Was London town gas really that bad? Most town gas in the 50s at least was supposed to (on paper) run it over trays of rust to draw out sulfates. They got rid of the ammonia too (with brushes underwater - yes, gas scrubbing was originally literal) but it was still mostly carbon monoxide, with a fuckload of other fossilised dinosaur farts. Besides they couldn't get rid of all the sulphur, because without the horrible smell you'd no idea the gas had gone out until everyone died. Also yeah the London gas was particularly bad. Elsewhere in the country the gas was a byproduct of coking, but London needed way more gas than it did coke, so they tended to use the really low-quality poo poo that was useless for coking* which also made the gas mix very variable, meaning the mantles needed constant tweaking. * what little coke they did produce was fed back to be burned into the retorts - however happily all the really nasty poo poo left over was great feedstock for chemical making, which is why to this day there are still a load of paint factories (and sugar refineries, worryingly) clustered around Beckton, where the largest gasworks in the world left us with a set for Apocalypse Now and a hundred-foot high mound of toxic waste right next to the A13 which is the nearest east London gets to a hill.
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jabby posted:Blame the WHO pain relief ladder, and drug-seekers. e: ^^ I still love that most synthetic sweetener making came out of coal gas detoxificaton. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:Those low rise mini blocks genuinely look lovely and I wish I could live in one. They're pretty nice now they've all been refurbished, but the bollards reflect the fact the entire estate was built in the days when nobody owned anything bigger than a pushbike so parking is problematic, to say the least.
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gently caress me you lot post a lot. Stay away from Tramadol unless you are in hospital or something. Or don't. Just, don't die or something. Also, unless something miraculous happens I am going to vote for the glorious communist party. What fun. Now onto content! HEXHAM IS loving EXCITING I THINK. A tory seat for the last ten thousand years, Hexham is a large constituency that encompasses rural areas, working class areas, goons and everything inbetween. Because it's so loving big. AND SO. As a safe Tory seat, it's curious that Hexham voted to Remain in the Referendum by 54.66%, yet here we are during this almighty clusterfuck. That is my story about Hexham. Figures, including the ten thousand years, are from here.
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iTrust posted:gently caress me you lot post a lot. Stay away from Tramadol unless you are in hospital or something. Or don't. Just, don't die or something. Less than 10k votes in it in 2017, that doesn't smell safe at all this time around for a Remain area. Expect Corbs to appear near you!
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Bundy posted:Less than 10k votes in it in 2017, that doesn't smell safe at all this time around for a Remain area. Expect Corbs to appear near you! I knew it was exciting. What a time to have moved here from the Newcastle constituency.
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Speaking of exciting constituencies, real chance for IDS to get turfed onto his arse: https://twitter.com/GaryLefley/status/1193930341272055809 Less than 3k votes in it in 2017 with 1200 going to the Greens with a 71% turnout. Remain just edged it in that constituency. e: This seems a good read comparing the Conservative and Labour budgeting/promises so far (I am far from an economic expert) https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-differences-between-labour-and.html This sounded particularly cool (to me, an idiot): quote:4) Labour’s Fiscal Credibility Rule has a knockout that occurs when interest rates hit their lower bound. This was a key proposal in my paper with Jonathan Portes, and as a result Labour's rule was ahead of its time. When interest rates hit their lower bound, the fiscal rule would be temporarily suspended and fiscal policy would focus on an economic recovery. When John McDonnell launched his rule in 2016 one BBC reporter called the knockout a loophole, despite the fact that it would have created a much faster and quicker recovery and avoided austerity! Other than that mediamacro hardly discussed the knockout. NinpoEspiritoSanto fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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Hey was someone in here posting about charcoal toothpaste and fluoxetine the other day?
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OwlFancier posted:I don't necessarily mind if Ms A's Kink Korner becomes a thread feature. As eager as I am, I've already shat the thread up far too much with my filth and I don't want to actually push it. The podcast though yeah except I'd just start talking about videos game instead, like how some of my first kink experiences were getting Red Lotus killed by, well, traps in Deathtrap Dungeon and finding it extremely good to imagine I was either her or doing it to her. It's like the US Civil War: People who know a little about Ms A think everything is about videos game. People who know a bit about Ms A think everything is about kink. People who know a lot about Ms A know everything is about videos game. Anyway that's more than enough self-posting who else is excited for IDS to actual die on his arse as Bundy posted  Fake e; OwlFancier posted:Do you know what Michaela is because if you don't, the fact that she's the headmistress of it gives it soooo much context. Her statement is truly bonkers, and I've never heard of Michaela, but more info would be welcome because it sounds like a real  shitshow
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Ms Adequate posted:Her statement is truly bonkers, and I've never heard of Michaela, but more info would be welcome because it sounds like a real I don't suggest anyone reads the wikipedia page for Michaela if any childhood authoritarian trauma is still pretty raw, let's put it that way. Nor do I suggest a google search that shows the usual melt/gammon nostalgia for "the old days" in full force. Also: https://twitter.com/UKDemockery/status/1193997456402456580
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Ms Adequate posted:Her statement is truly bonkers, and I've never heard of Michaela, but more info would be welcome because it sounds like a real There have been articles. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/dec/30/no-excuses-inside-britains-strictest-school quote:At the school, a group of pupils prepare to end their break and move to their next lesson. They line up quietly under the eye of their teacher – who stops to ask one of them to pick up a grape from the floor. Guest appearance from friend of the thread: quote:It carries an endorsement from the philosopher Roger Scruton, who says Michaela is a model “that all our schools should imitate”. Further joyous reading: "The head of a London secondary school that places pupils in “lunch isolation” if their parents don’t pay for school meals is unapologetic over the policy, arguing that parents who refuse to pay are betraying their children’s education." OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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So basically someone was like "You know, the Hitlerjugend was fine, just needed a bit more discipline and brutality"? And then our country was like "... yeah okay, sounds good, set up a school on those exact principles!"?
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Bundy posted:For toothache, or at all? I'm 39 and this is the first time I've heard this instruction, is "headache, 2 ibuprofen, better later" pure placebo? Pain and inflammation aren't exactly the same thing, although they're part of the same pathway. Pain just means your nerves are telling you something hurts. Inflammation means something somewhere is swollen because your body has started an immune reaction, causing extra fluid and killer immune system cells to flow to the area. Ibuprofen blocks some of the pathways pain and inflammation use to operate. A single dose will deaden pain almost immediately (although you're better off with paracetamol for a headache), but inflammation doesn't die down that quickly. The immune system in that area is already riled up, the cells are already there, and they're pumping out other chemicals that continue the inflammation. Even if you switch off some of the pathways that activate them, by the time your single dose of ibuprofen wears off everything will still be basically as it was before. And it will quickly ramp back up again. If you take it regularly though, you keep those pathways blocked for a longer period, and you allow time for the blood vessels to get back to normal and the immune cells to lose interest and wander off. The inflammation starts to die down, and because of the self-reinforcing nature of these reactions it becomes harder for it to start back up again. That's the idea anyway. In practice it means that if your back pain is caused by an inflamed nerve, taking a single dose of ibuprofen might block the pain for a few hours but it won't take away the cause. A few days of regular ibuprofen though, and the nerve might start to become less inflamed. Which hopefully means not only will the background pain gradually improve, but when you stop taking the drugs it won't come back. Disclaimer though, ibuprofen has nasty side effects and should be taken for the shortest possible effective time. If you plan on taking it for more than a couple of days you definitely need to take stomach protection, and you shouldn't take it if you have a history of ulcers or kidney problems. Guavanaut posted:How do you 'try and fail' on tramadol, because I've tried feeling nauseous and lazy on tramadol, which seems like the default state, and I've tried feeling okay and productive on XR morphine, which seems like the suspicious state, but it's still treated as the dubious condition for supposedly strong opioids? You fail if your pain isn't sufficiently relieved or if you have intolerable side effects, but your doctor's definition of 'sufficiently' or 'intolerable' may not be the same as yours. Basically you should only be needing these drugs for short term complaints anyway, so feeling a bit spaced out is deemed acceptable. If you keep coming back because you're still in pain it can be a sign you aren't really suitable for treatment with opioids.
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Ms Adequate posted:So basically someone was like "You know, the Hitlerjugend was fine, just needed a bit more discipline and brutality"? And then our country was like "... yeah okay, sounds good, set up a school on those exact principles!"? Britain's most famous teacher has suffered a setback in her plans to open a free school, but she remains undaunted. She says teaching is her passion and Michael Gove, her inspiration.
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Guavanaut posted:How do you 'try and fail' on tramadol, because I've tried feeling nauseous and lazy on tramadol, which seems like the default state, and I've tried feeling okay and productive on XR morphine, which seems like the suspicious state, but it's still treated as the dubious condition for supposedly strong opioids? Fail in medical terms can mean either "doesn't work" or "works to fix symptoms but unable to tolerate side effects". Depending on the drug you may need to have been on treatment for a specific length of time before its considered failed. For analgesia if you're still feeling it in a day or so it's probably not working/enough. Tramadol is a synthetic opioid and has a different side effect profile vs morphine. More psychotropic but less constipating, good for the young, can drive the elderly funny.
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jabby posted:Disclaimer though, ibuprofen has nasty side effects and should be taken for the shortest possible effective time. If you plan on taking it for more than a couple of days you definitely need to take stomach protection, and you shouldn't take it if you have a history of ulcers or kidney problems. It was interesting, I've never had a doctor make sure he had eye contact and then say "This was really, really serious." He's not wrong, I was about to try and sleep it off.
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OwlFancier posted:Britain's most famous teacher has suffered a setback in her plans to open a free school, but she remains undaunted. She says teaching is her passion and Michael Gove, her inspiration. I have read both these articles and the mind reels and boggles, barely able and utterly unwilling to take in the information presented. The trite thing to say would be this woman is bonkers, and I'm trying not to because I know some people with mental illness consider it damaging to use it as such shorthand; but it doesn't matter here as this goes far beyond mere mental disturbance, and would slander us honest bedlamites. It's like she's from an entirely alien reality where every single thing about human psychology, childhood development, and even the simple definition of "kindness" are vastly, incomprehensibly different. It isn't even 'opposite', it's all entirely unmoored from any frame of reference.
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OwlFancier posted:I think the phrasing you're looking for is "thought leader" These are thoughts that would give an illithid indigestion!
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Look, if your mind is tethered to anything resembling this reality you're only ever going to make it as a guardian hack, if you want to get anywhere in life or make it into government you need to unmoor the fetters of your brain and let it drift into strange dimensions unconceived of by mortal consciousness. And from that dark and fearsome realm you can return, if you're lucky, to this dreary and mundane gnostic shore, not carrying the wisdom you perceived out in the void, for no human mind could hope to do that, but the strange energies your astral self was exposed to may have twisted your cognitive pathways in such a way, that with the right stimulus, you can articulate a pale, withered imitation of the inspiration only afforded to greater beings. We can make it unacceptable not to pick the grape up.
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OwlFancier posted:He actually used his time machine to travel to south africa and also 1991. His TARDIS (Time And Racist Dimensions In Space)
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Ms Adequate posted:I have read both these articles and the mind reels and boggles, barely able and utterly unwilling to take in the information presented. This is what happens when young people watch too many Victorian period dramas. Besides, education below the age of 17 shouldn't be taken seriously anyway. It has almost zero bearing on how well you do in adult life. Chuka Umana fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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Ms Adequate posted:I have read both these articles and the mind reels and boggles, barely able and utterly unwilling to take in the information presented. she genuinely seems to believe that anyone under the age of 18 is an Elemental Mischief Demon who must be forcibly held down and vigorously hammered into the shape of a Proper Responsible Adult, lest they destroy civilized society so of course she's a nationally respected education thought leader, what could be more natural
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Chuka Umana posted:You can't make a child work if they don't want to. I don't think people can comprehend the fact you cannot discipline a child into being more productive.  .https://twitter.com/Miss_Snuffy/status/1193576793867005952
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Rarity posted:Hello nite crew. I've only had 4 hours sleep cause my tooth hurts too much. I'm now wistfully remembering the time I was on codeine after I broke my wrist. Ah, the good old days. 
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