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Yes mates, just got the green light to campaign during purdah, see you on the streets  E: 154 is the number of sonnets Shakespeare wrote, who knew that singular "they" bangs
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Second person might be a carer. Friend of mine has an adult severely disabled daughter and sometimes has to lie her daughter down on the ground to do potty related things because there's no other facility. Yep. I think that point, combined with being an anti-homeless person weapon, makes these toilets a bad idea.
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The really silly part is they could have just made the full body flush go on after you've had sex so that the toilet doubles as a sex chamber without making it manky for the next person.
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Nov 12, 2019 17:29
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OwlFancier posted:The really silly part is they could have just made the full body flush go on after you've had sex so that the toilet doubles as a sex chamber without making it manky for the next person. Vote me, Bundy, and I'll do this and put free condom machines in there too
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Nov 12, 2019 17:33
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Like it's the space year 2019 we should have all in one automated sex chambers/shitters/showers and capitalism can only make an anti-sex anti-homeless anti-disabled people toilet.
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sebzilla posted:Survation's figure of 13% of Leave voters currently going Labour means more than 2 million votes, by my maths. Eh, even if you go Full Remain some Leave voters stick with you -not all of them care that much about leaving. You'll see on similar polls that ~10% of lib dem voters voted to leave aswell - might show that Labour's efforts to walk a tightrope haven't worked and should have gone full remain eariler to keep some lib dems on board. We'll see, but it doesn't mean that success is all down to labour.
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Oh I hadn't seen this Survation poll https://twitter.com/Survation/status/1194248053114515456 Grauniad is angry because it has the Tories with only a 6pp lead, and it wants to remind you it thinks the Tories are 12pp ahead
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Not that it matters at all now - we have to fight from where we are - but I do think that if Labour had gone unambiguously second referendum prior to the euro elections the Lib Dem surge that has hobbled Labour the last few months could have been mostly avoided.
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Possibly but it would have been a lot harder to sell labour in the northern marginal constituencies IMO. We are genuinely trying to pitch to both sides, and it's not going badly either, the reconciliatory approach from the mouth of someone on the doorstep who gives the impression of genuinely caring, can carry water with a lot of people.
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Rarity posted:There is nothing essentially exploitative in the relationship between sex worker and client. Sex workers have full control over which clients they see and what kind of work they do which is why so many women find this kind work empowering. There are two main problems that get in the way of this. The first is that many of the sex work models have been taken over by figures of power which includes pimps, strip club owners and camsites among others and in most cases these figures are normally male. This means traditional patriarchal control is recreated. The other issue is that capitalist society does not provide for the poor which puts women into positions where they have to compromise on their boundaries in order to make enough money to get by especially when social stigma makes it hard for sex workers to break beyond these roles. Luckily the solution to this is socialist, put the structures of power in the industry in the hands of the workers. Giving sex workers ownership of their work would vastly improve their situations. i had a big effort post but i deleted. probably it's not worth it to start debating itt when so much else is kicking off. but i'm skeptical that there's nothing inherently exploitative in the relationship between worker and john, and i'm very very skeptical, that any of this is empowering or tackles patriarchy or capitalism or misery. gh0stpinballa fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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mediadave posted:Not that it matters at all now - we have to fight from where we are - but I do think that if Labour had gone unambiguously second referendum prior to the euro elections the Lib Dem surge that has hobbled Labour the last few months could have been mostly avoided. How has 'a Lib Dem surge' hobbled Labour? Things are going pretty drat well at the moment. Also the LDs are not surging.
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Necrothatcher posted:How has 'a Lib Dem surge' hobbled Labour? Things are going pretty drat well at the moment. Also the LDs are not surging. I mean, they went from 10% to 20%+ in the polls, at the direct expense of labour, and we're having to beat that back down now. And if we fail we lose. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...obox=1573233192
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Necrothatcher posted:How has 'a Lib Dem surge' hobbled Labour? Things are going pretty drat well at the moment. Also the LDs are not surging. Well, in the last few polls they are surging. Down.
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mediadave posted:I mean, they went from 10% to 20%+ in the polls, at the direct expense of labour, and we're having to beat that back down now. And if we fail we lose.  SKILLS WALLET
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OwlFancier posted:Possibly but it would have been a lot harder to sell labour in the northern marginal constituencies IMO. No harder than it is now, with our current 2nd ref policy. While we are in the process of kicking the lib dems back down to below 10%, it's a hard road and I agree with mediadave it would have been easier and their "surge" less hyped if labour had gone to our current policy pre euro elections/after May's extension, rather than keep those "compromise deal negotiations" going for ages past the point it was clear compromises with May couldn't be made.
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Nov 12, 2019 18:04
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mediadave posted:Not that it matters at all now - we have to fight from where we are - but I do think that if Labour had gone unambiguously second referendum prior to the euro elections the Lib Dem surge that has hobbled Labour the last few months could have been mostly avoided. You just need to look at how much centrist media even now still "don't understand" Labour's position on Brexit to know that would make zero difference. Literally four days ago The Last Leg finished the episode with a musical number about Corbyn sitting on the fence instead of picking a side, because Brexit is some loving competition you have to be on the winning team of and not a complex political issue with massive social and economic ramifications if it's done wrong. Corbyn could have declared Labour's policy is to immediately revoke A50 and it would still have been reported as 'unclear' by some.
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Nov 12, 2019 18:05
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So the Lib Dens are terrible wreckers but given the choice between a ministerial Jag with Corbyn's Chaos Coalition (hail Slaanesh!) and propping up a dodgy Tory minority government, which do we think they'd choose?
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Purple Prince posted:So the Lib Dens are terrible wreckers but given the choice between a ministerial Jag with Corbyn's Chaos Coalition (hail Slaanesh!) and propping up a dodgy Tory minority government, which do we think they'd choose? Jo;
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Purple Prince posted:So the Lib Dens are terrible wreckers but given the choice between a ministerial Jag with Corbyn's Chaos Coalition (hail Slaanesh!) and propping up a dodgy Tory minority government, which do we think they'd choose? I think Labour would rather run a minority government than go into formal coalition with the Lib Dems.
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Diet Crack posted:Sex is weird and you can be too! I had a friend who worked as an adultress I didn't realise that was a career option 
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feedmegin posted:I didn't realise that was a career option With pluck and a can-do attitude anything can be a career option
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feedmegin posted:I didn't realise that was a career option
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LMAO nothing Labour does to help social progress counts. Selecting a record number of candidates of colour? Oh well it just shows how much work has to be done cuz the TORIES haven't selected as many. It's like whatever fuckstick at the BBC said that Tory policy was Labour's fault for not highlighting it in opposition, as if there was any chance in the last three years to pivot to something other than Brexit.
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Purple Prince posted:So the Lib Dens are terrible wreckers but given the choice between a ministerial Jag with Corbyn's Chaos Coalition (hail Slaanesh!) and propping up a dodgy Tory minority government, which do we think they'd choose? also, here's a thought: assume Labour actually fulfils its promised Brexit policy, what is the goal of Lib Dems as a party? soft Brexit doesn't make for good, urgent "We must be back in the EU!" narrative, and revoke means both Lib Dems and Labour end up as pro-EU so it's not a distinguishing factor any more, what else do they have as a main line? compare to a coalition with the Tories in exchange for a Bojo Deal (or no deal) / Revoke referendum - Revoke means LDs become the saviours of the EU, and Bojo Deal means bad things and a need for a pro-EU party, which the LDs can provide honestly i doubt Lib Dems would actually be stupid enough to go into formal coalition with the Tories again, but confidence and supply? maybe ed: also they've said that they'll only consider a coalition with Labour if Corbyn steps down. or if Ed Balls steps down (2015). or if Gordon Brown steps down (2010) so they have form on this CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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Chuka Umana posted:LMAO nothing Labour does to help social progress counts. its stupider than that, labour since 2015 has constantly been hammering tory policies while the media thinks thats old hat up until 2016 at which point they go "labour banging on about policies again, but what about brexit?"
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https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1194190085438226434 Cool, normal country not at all sliding towards fascism.
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CGI Stardust posted:ed: also they've said that they'll only consider a coalition with Labour if Corbyn steps down. or if Ed Balls steps down (2015). or if Gordon Brown steps down (2010) so they have form on this Do you mean Ed Ballsiband? Sorry if this revives kinkchat. I'm very bad and I need to be punished 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1194190085438226434 to be fair its more like an oligarchic monarchy slipping back and forward in the direction of democracy
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Local dickhead Tory MP being a lying dickhead. Who’d have thought it. https://www.thecanary.co/exclusive/2019/11/12/another-day-and-yet-another-tory-candidate-is-accused-of-lying/
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1194190085438226434 And yet the morons are not even at least hit with a caution for wasting police time.
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Ratjaculation posted:https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/first-time-my-life-im-frightened-be-jewish/  Glad that someone in the public sphere has stepped up and said this. quote:It is a campaign – which however it started, has been sustained primarily by people who are not themselves Jewish – so cynical and irresponsible that I genuinely believe it to be a form of antisemitism in itself. And it is a clear and present danger to Jewish people. quote:The problem is that exploiting Jewish issues in ways guaranteed to create rancor, panic, and resentment is itself a form of antisemitism. (This is true whether or not the architects are fully aware of what they're doing.)
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feedmegin posted:I didn't realise that was a career option She makes a healthy living off it to be fair, you'd be surprised the amount they can bring in if you're quite professional about it.
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Campaigning chat: Anyone else having to cancel campaigning events 'because of purdah'? Our county council has told us we must cancel street stalls, tea and chat event (tea to be paid for we know free tea and biscuits counts as bribes) and various other things. We don't hold any labour party 'business' meetings during purdah but isn't campaigning ok?
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Braggart posted:Do you mean Ed Ballsiband? https://twitter.com/Lizzyy89/status/1194016344448151553?s=19  
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Campaigning chat: Who is 'us' in this context? If you're the Labour Party then it sounds like they're interfering in electoral activity and need to go gently caress themselves.
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