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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Tales of Wonder Chef! That would be great. He could join up with the Wonder Baker and the all-new Wonder Sous-chef and Wonder Sommelier to spice up the dated conventions of the series!
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 14:48 |
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Last Celebration posted:Is Tales of in trouble or something? I mean, everyone knows Zestria was a stinker but Berseria was pretty great and I havent heard anything bad about the Vesperia remaster or the Xillia games Endorph posted:Xillia sold very well but was criticized for feeling unfinished. Xillia 2 was blatantly more a fandisc than an actual video game that could stand on its own. Zestiria was Zestiria. Berseria was well-received but didn't sell that well, due to the string of games before it. The Vesperia remaster sold well... in the US and EU, where we never got the PS3 version. In Japan it didn't move much stock at all. And in the US/EU Vesperia Definitive had issues with the voice recasting and some mild translation issues. All of that, and even Berseria felt like it was being pushed to cut corners both in its marketing and in the product. It has a very solid critical path and character quests but not much else, and parts of it that are there feel bare-bones or like stripped-down versions of Zestiria systems that sucked but that they couldn't entirely replace.
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 15:43 |
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Caphi posted:All of that, and even Berseria felt like it was being pushed to cut corners both in its marketing and in the product. It has a very solid critical path and character quests but not much else, and parts of it that are there feel bare-bones or like stripped-down versions of Zestiria systems that sucked but that they couldn't entirely replace. Everyone had 3 or 4 canned animations and they used the absolute hell out of them. Take a shot every time Magilou puts her hands on her hips in a cutscene and you'll be dead after 2 hours
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 15:50 |
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That's every RPG.
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 15:53 |
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People complained a lot about the skits replacing cutscenes but they still felt better and more dynamic than the last couple games which I think says a lot.
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 22:35 |
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If the cutscene is going to consist entirely of characters talking anyway, who cares if it's talking portraits instead The voice acting does 90% of the work and you're still getting that. And it's not like this series has great facial or body language animations that you'll be missing out on.
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# ? Oct 31, 2019 01:41 |
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Yeah but in skits I don't get to see every character's head being obscured by an oversized cowboy hat with a Baul plushie on top.
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# ? Oct 31, 2019 01:54 |
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Shere posted:Yeah but in skits I don't get to see every character's head being obscured by an oversized cowboy hat with a Baul plushie on top.
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# ? Oct 31, 2019 01:59 |
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I hope switching to a new engine let's Tales improve the most important part of the game:
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# ? Oct 31, 2019 03:01 |
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The fact that Xillia let you put on three of whatever you wanted just for Zesty to make that loving points system is just so weird to me. Why did they see a perfectly good system and think "what if this was just plain worse to use?"
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# ? Oct 31, 2019 13:05 |
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I suspect it had something to do with limited resources on the PS3 and wanting to limit vertex count on the models. ToZ on PS3 already ran pretty poorly from what I remember.
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# ? Oct 31, 2019 13:06 |
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The fact that Arise seems to have the same premise as like 50% of the tales games concerns me a lot
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:39 |
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Does it? It seems closest to Eternia but even then the details are practically all completely different.
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:11 |
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What tales game has instant death princess with man that literally cant feel things
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:13 |
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Caphi posted:Does it? It seems closest to Eternia but even then the details are practically all completely different. TWO WORLDS, ONE MORE ADVANCED THAN THE OTHER!!! describes: Eternia Symphonia Xillia kind of destiny kind of hearts Graces
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:14 |
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I feel like getting mad at Tales for doing the 'two worlds' thing is like getting mad at Final Fantasy for making their stories about crystals.
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:18 |
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it's a bit soon to make an assumption about an entire game's story based on it sharing a single trope with a few other games in the same series that's been going since 1995
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:24 |
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Tales is generally pretty good about having a different twist or focus in each game even if they have similar worldbuilding
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:27 |
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Hellioning posted:I feel like getting mad at Tales for doing the 'two worlds' thing is like getting mad at Final Fantasy for making their stories about crystals.
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:48 |
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Going back through Berseria with double xp and keeping all the skill masteries and what not is a fun expierence. I don't know if it's knowing how to actually play the game better than i did before or maybe the extra levels and skills making a difference but wow am i wrecking every enemies poo poo. Even the dire enemies I've killed a few times now on insane when I ran the hell away all the time on normal
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:58 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:TWO WORLDS, ONE MORE ADVANCED THAN THE OTHER!!! This is an extreme reach, especially considering you had to "kind of" two of them, Graces is also "kind of" if Hearts is, and they aren't even different planets in Xillia. "Has two worlds" is an incredibly basic trope and you still had to go this far to find more than two examples, I think we're fine. Also Symphonia barely counts since its whole setting is one big swipe of Eternia's, that's not representative of the series. Caphi fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Nov 12, 2019 |
# ? Nov 12, 2019 21:59 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:TWO WORLDS, ONE MORE ADVANCED THAN THE OTHER!!! I hope the twist is that there are
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 22:19 |
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The twist is there is only one world but everyone is CONVINCED there is a second one
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 22:20 |
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the gate to the other world is just a giant mirror that people keep bonking their heads against when they try to enter it
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 22:30 |
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The twist is that the people from the other world are just actors wearing really good make up, but they also have goatees, top hats, and monocles. if the person already had facial hair, top hats, or eye wear, its layered. This is all just an anology for classism.
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 23:25 |
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The twist is the less advanced world is actually the future version of the other world.
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# ? Nov 13, 2019 02:57 |
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Caphi posted:This is an extreme reach, especially considering you had to "kind of" two of them, Graces is also "kind of" if Hearts is, and they aren't even different planets in Xillia. *in an extremely well actually voice* They aren't even different planets! CharlestheHammer posted:The twist is there is only one world but everyone is CONVINCED there is a second one Id be into it
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# ? Nov 13, 2019 22:26 |
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 20:25 |
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I can see the arc of the Alphen/Shionne romance arc from miles away: Initial meeting in time of crisis, Shionne is cold and distant because of her curse When Alphen can handle the burning sword, she realizes he can touch her without feeling pain Some adventures with slow romance blooming Alphen gets his pain back, angst because they can't touch anymore More adventuring with angst Finally, Shionne's curse is removed, and they can touch, and they confess their love.
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# ? Nov 19, 2019 20:17 |
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I can see the arc of the me/pascal romance from miles away
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# ? Nov 19, 2019 23:13 |
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Alphen's numbness and Shionne's curse actually opens the door for a really interesting gameplay integration. Alphen can't feel pain. Obviously, this doesn't make him immune to damage or invincible, he'll still have HP that goes down when he gets hit, but what if, to reflect this, he has super armor on all of his attacks, and he literally cannot be stunned by anything? Shionne causes powerful pain to anyone who touches her. What if she does crazy damage to any melee physical attacker that hits her?
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# ? Nov 20, 2019 00:47 |
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I'm gonna say that that is not going to happen and they're just going to play like normal-rear end characters.
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# ? Nov 20, 2019 01:09 |
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Honestly if any of that happens its going to be like Alphen will have some char specific mechanic where he might be able to get like a hit or two of super armor while doing moves. I doubt they're going to give you free Glory from hour 1.
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# ? Nov 20, 2019 02:14 |
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Yeah, I mean, I can bet that anything with knockback will still affect Alphen, but having more super armor than usual will probably be his gimmick aside from him switching between his normal sword and that fire one (which I assume will drain health while it's in use).
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# ? Nov 20, 2019 02:46 |
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https://twitter.com/tommy_feb_26/status/1198581929718583299Microsoft Translation posted:Graces Anniversary Party was very, very good. So no remaster but Sakurai was there? Not like I can tell based on the context of this tweet if it's smash bros Sakurai, though.
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# ? Nov 24, 2019 16:09 |
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Asbel's voice actor is Takahiro Sakurai, so they definitely meant him.
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# ? Nov 24, 2019 16:29 |
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Really? Remasters getting poo poo out every month it feels like and we can't get the best battle system on modem consoles? Come on!
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# ? Nov 24, 2019 18:12 |
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They remastered Vesperia like a year ago, that's about it.
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# ? Nov 24, 2019 18:15 |
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Caphi posted:They remastered Vesperia like a year ago, that's about it. I just meant remasters in general.
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# ? Nov 24, 2019 19:08 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 19:23 |
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it's not like he said they'd never ever do it, it's just not the point of the little anniversary thing, and given the series' history it's probably a good idea not to rush poo poo for anniversaries
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# ? Nov 24, 2019 19:11 |