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Milo and POTUS posted:Zoolander is a dumb dumb dumb movie but I love it. Thank god for nine ele-... woah. Little close there. Zoolander and Austin Powers are this specific kind of weird dumb comedy that seems relegated to a different culture- like they don't really hold up, if either came out today it'd seem kinda... weird but not weird enough? Dumb but not embracing the dumb entirely? idk really like both of those movies despite some glaring flaws but that might be because I was a teenager when they came out my dad got me vanity plates for my first car, a beat up $300 1985 Civic, and mine was SHAGUAR- wanted to get a jag hood ornament bolted on but the car died too soon
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Nov 12, 2019 06:40
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I guess we're not quite there yet but people are eventually gonna be nostalgic for Austin Powers and Zoolander the exact same way we are for Ghostbusters and Back to the Future and stuff now.
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Nov 12, 2019 07:04
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Zoolander owns and I will defend the first two austin powers and Beyonce in the third with my life
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My Lovely Horse posted:I guess we're not quite there yet but people are eventually gonna be nostalgic for Austin Powers and Zoolander the exact same way we are for Ghostbusters and Back to the Future and stuff now. I doubt it. The former don't really hold a candle to the latter.
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Nov 12, 2019 07:55
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Compared to the format most comedies use today Austin Powers (the first) is a breath of fresh air.
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My Lovely Horse posted:I guess we're not quite there yet but people are eventually gonna be nostalgic for Austin Powers and Zoolander the exact same way we are for Ghostbusters and Back to the Future and stuff now. This is how I feel about gen Z and their love of shrek. It was pretty funny when it came out to my generation, but for the people a decade younger than me it's a permanent part of their collective psyche, and they've collectively remixed and memed it millions of times now.
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Austin Powers killed the format of James Bond movies and helped usher in the Daniel Craig style. Whether that's good or bad is personal taste (Die Another Day is one of the worst movies of all-time IMO). But even the classic Goldfinger & You Only Live Twice are hard to watch post-Austin Powers. Dr Evil is really one of the best comic creation of all time but it did get tired by the third movie. I'm still surprised there has never been talk of another sequel or reboot though.
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Nov 12, 2019 12:17
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kaesarsosei posted:But even the classic Goldfinger & You Only Live Twice are hard to watch post-Austin Powers. Dr Evil is really one of the best comic creation of all time but it did get tired by the third movie. I'm still surprised there has never been talk of another sequel or reboot though. I think it's that the movies it's spoofing went from 'dad's Bond' to 'grandpa's Bond', with a soupcon of nobody forgiving Mike Myers for Love Guru more broadly, though, I think it's like Blazing Saddles in that the humor style is both passe and strange- a lot of the weirdness in that movie is kind of ho-hum now- and its bits of shock-humor transgressions come across as either quaint or troubling
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Nov 12, 2019 12:28
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kaesarsosei posted:...Austin Powers. Dr Evil is really one of the best comic creation of all time but it did get tired by the third movie. I'm still surprised there has never been talk of another sequel or reboot though. There was a lot of talk about it for a while that sort of crapped out when Vern Troyer died. Myers was openly talking about doing it.
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BiggerBoat posted:There was a lot of talk about it for a while that sort of crapped out when Vern Troyer died. Myers was openly talking about doing it. We're going to get an Austin Power reboot in 10 years time, according to the 30 years cycle (which is, by the way, the reason we got Austin Power in the first place in the late 90s). As always, Lindsay Ellis has a good video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Radg-Kn0jLs
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BiggerBoat posted:There was a lot of talk about it for a while that sort of crapped out when Vern Troyer died. Myers was openly talking about doing it. I remember the rumours of a fourth movie that involved mostly Scott Evil and whatever, and it was just obvious that they were out of ideas. There were some neat gags in the third one, but it was such an obvious rehash of all the gags everyone liked from the first two. I watched the first one again a couple of months ago, and IMO it still holds up. it's been years since I'd watched it, but the gags are funny independent of your knowledge of the Bond tropes. That's what I think helps, that they took the spy stuff as a jumping-off point and kept going. Doctor Evil as a character in and of himself isn't inherently funny. What Doctor Evil says or does, however, is funny. Even the idea of him having a son is initially funny, and works because they give him more to do. It's just too bad that it feels like they tried less and less as the movies went on. ...I say this as someone who picked part of his username not too long after watching the second one and stuck with it. Peanut Butler posted:more broadly, though, I think it's like Blazing Saddles in that the humor style is both passe and strange- a lot of the weirdness in that movie is kind of ho-hum now- and its bits of shock-humor transgressions come across as either quaint or troubling There's also this, too. Like any art, movies are also a product of their time, and it's why any good artist keeps creating.
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Not a lot of people want to work with Mike Myers anymore, he's well known for being a narcissistic paranoid rear end in a top hat. He tried to minimize Dana Carvey's role in the first Wayne's World because he realized he was simply funnier. He could not understand why the head banging scene was funny and wanted it cut out. He prevented Penelope Spheeris from directing the sequel because he didn't like her. He thought Lorne Michaels would be able to get him Frederico Fellini as a director for a movie he wanted to make. Etc. I also find him to be very one-note for the most part. Like he finds something funny and runs it completely into the ground. Or, in the case of the Love Guru, finds something unfunny and runs it completely into the ground. Not to mention that he uses that loving Scottish voice in almost every goddamn movie he's ever been in. The father in So I Married an Ax Murderer, Fat Bastard in Austin Powers, Shrek, etc, etc. I just want him to go away.
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Nov 12, 2019 21:20
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Not a lot of people want to work with Mike Myers anymore, he's well known for being a narcissistic paranoid rear end in a top hat. He tried to minimize Dana Carvey's role in the first Wayne's World because he realized he was simply funnier. He could not understand why the head banging scene was funny and wanted it cut out. He prevented Penelope Spheeris from directing the sequel because he didn't like her. He thought Lorne Michaels would be able to get him Frederico Fellini as a director for a movie he wanted to make. Etc. While all of this is true, the one unforgivable thing he’s done is be Canadian
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More like oldpoutineless.
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My Lovely Horse posted:I guess we're not quite there yet but people are eventually gonna be nostalgic for Austin Powers and Zoolander the exact same way we are for Ghostbusters and Back to the Future and stuff now. Not after Zoolander 2 we're not
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Not a lot of people want to work with Mike Myers anymore, he's well known for being a narcissistic paranoid rear end in a top hat. He tried to minimize Dana Carvey's role in the first Wayne's World because he realized he was simply funnier. He could not understand why the head banging scene was funny and wanted it cut out. He prevented Penelope Spheeris from directing the sequel because he didn't like her. He thought Lorne Michaels would be able to get him Frederico Fellini as a director for a movie he wanted to make. Etc. That's true. I remember the stories of him using the death of his father to browbeat everyone when making The Love Guru. Penelope Spheeris even admitted that she only forgave Myers (or something to that effect) after seeing Austin Powers. After the dreck he's done after, she may have rescinded that. And I agree with the overuse of jokes. I watched old SNL sketches with him, and certain jokes like not being able to control THE VOLUME OF MY VOICE was used at least once there. There may have been a few others, but I don't remember. It's been a while. There are three things about Goldmember that I actually liked (that I can remember): Beyonce, following through with "sharks with frickin' laser beams", and casting Michael Caine as his father. It's just too bad with that last one, because he deserved a better movie for the character.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I just want him to go away. Also, Mike Myers lifted his Dr Evil from Dana. That is Dana's literal impersonation of Lorne Michaels. Dana talked on Howard Stern about how no one did an impersonation of him, and he started to do it back on the show and it was killing. He talked about what effects on the voice you had to hit because Lorne had words that he would hang on and it is was just too on the nose.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Not a lot of people want to work with Mike Myers anymore, he's well known for being a narcissistic paranoid rear end in a top hat. He tried to minimize Dana Carvey's role in the first Wayne's World because he realized he was simply funnier. He could not understand why the head banging scene was funny and wanted it cut out. He prevented Penelope Spheeris from directing the sequel because he didn't like her. He thought Lorne Michaels would be able to get him Frederico Fellini as a director for a movie he wanted to make. Etc. I read something about this a while back and how now the best he can get are glorified cameos in movies like Inglorious Basterds or Bohemian Rhapsody. He hasn't had a movie since Love Guru, which is just loving painful to watch.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Not a lot of people want to work with Mike Myers anymore, he's well known for being a narcissistic paranoid rear end in a top hat. He tried to minimize Dana Carvey's role in the first Wayne's World because he realized he was simply funnier. He could not understand why the head banging scene was funny and wanted it cut out. He prevented Penelope Spheeris from directing the sequel because he didn't like her. He thought Lorne Michaels would be able to get him Frederico Fellini as a director for a movie he wanted to make. Etc. Aw man that's disappointing, I thought he was cool. My aunt went to high school with Jay Roach and keeps (kept? idk) in touch with him; according to her, he had said after Goldmember that they wanted to keep making Austin Powers movies until they got stale (like Bond movies were at the time). Oh well.
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Friend posted:Aw man that's disappointing, I thought he was cool. They did.
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MichiganCubbie posted:I read something about this a while back and how now the best he can get are glorified cameos in movies like Inglorious Basterds or Bohemian Rhapsody. He hasn't had a movie since Love Guru, which is just loving painful to watch. Reminded of Eddie Murphy, and possibly coincidentally probably the last well-received movie both were in is Shrek. Maybe because they didn't get to have creative control over it.
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Sucks to hear that Myers is a doofus, but I will defend to my dying breath that "Basil Exposition" is a loving perfect name for that character in that film. Just the sound of it - never mind the joke - is satisfying in a way that approaches "Alan Partridge" levels of excellence.
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Nov 13, 2019 18:05
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Not a lot of people want to work with Mike Myers anymore, he's well known for being a narcissistic paranoid rear end in a top hat. He tried to minimize Dana Carvey's role in the first Wayne's World because he realized he was simply funnier. He could not understand why the head banging scene was funny and wanted it cut out. He prevented Penelope Spheeris from directing the sequel because he didn't like her. He thought Lorne Michaels would be able to get him Frederico Fellini as a director for a movie he wanted to make. Etc. He addressed this in his WTF interview. He really didn't apologize, but he acknowledged it and gave a relatively decent explanation for his thinking.
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Fake names is itself kind of a beautiful and underappreciated art. Toby Flenderson! Otis B Driftwood! Hortense Beveridge! Oh wait, that one's real
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AFewBricksShy posted:He addressed this in his WTF interview. He really didn't apologize, but he acknowledged it and gave a relatively decent explanation for his thinking. Which bit?
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AFewBricksShy posted:He addressed this in his WTF interview. He really didn't apologize, but he acknowledged it and gave a relatively decent explanation for his thinking. Which part? There's a lot in that post.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Reminded of Eddie Murphy, and possibly coincidentally probably the last well-received movie both were in is Shrek. Maybe because they didn't get to have creative control over it. I take it you haven't seen Dolemite Is My Name yet. Murphy is pretty good in it & people are saying "Eddie's back!"
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I still like Meyers. He just got way too famous for his limited shtick. He's probably happier now without Wayne's World and Austin Powers expectations. Dana Carvey is a comic genius though and it sucks his post-SNL career was kind of meh. EDIT: the backstory on Carvey's TV show is pretty weird. It was originally supposed to be sponsored by a company, kind of like how old timey variety shows worked. Pepsi agreed to do it, but backed out at the last minute. Since they couldn't find a replacement they just titled each show as sponsored by a different Pepsi product like Mountain Dew or Taco Bell. The show got decent ratings, but ran out of money by the 6th episode, at which point they titled it sponsored by Szechuan Dynasty, a local restaurant they liked. Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 18:52 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Android Apocalypse posted:I take it you haven't seen Dolemite Is My Name yet. Murphy is pretty good in it & people are saying "Eddie's back!" They said that when he was in the Nutty Professor in 1996 and then Shrek in 2001 and then Dreamgirls in 2006 and then Tower Heist in 2011 and then... Krispy Wafer posted:Dana Carvey is a comic genius though and it sucks his post-SNL career was kind of meh. Carvey also had a botched heart surgery in 1997 and then had to have several corrective surgeries over the next decade or so. That's what really hosed with his career for a long time. He did Master of Disguisein 2002 as a cheap low-stress comedy that his kids might like and would get him some money.
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He wrote it so he's not innocent.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Which part? There's a lot in that post. Sorry. Basically his overall dickheadedness, his inability to listen to other people, and I think he ended up explaining what happened with Penelope Spheeris, but it's been a bit since I listened to it.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:They said that when he was in the Nutty Professor in 1996 and then Shrek in 2001 and then Dreamgirls in 2006 and then Tower Heist in 2011 and then... My Name Is Dolemite is really good though.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Carvey also had a botched heart surgery in 1997 and then had to have several corrective surgeries over the next decade or so. That's what really hosed with his career for a long time. He did Master of Disguisein 2002 as a cheap low-stress comedy that his kids might like and would get him some money. Okay, that will definitely gently caress with your career. I hadn't seen him in anything for years, but watching his Netflix standup reminded me how funny he could be. Up until that point he had been delegated to the Rick Moranis wing of my childhood memories.
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Aphrodite posted:He wrote it so he's not innocent. Oh, I'm not saying it's good, just explaining why he did it in the first place. AFewBricksShy posted:Sorry. Basically his overall dickheadedness, his inability to listen to other people, and I think he ended up explaining what happened with Penelope Spheeris, but it's been a bit since I listened to it. No need to apologize. And at least he's self-aware now, but it seems like it may be too late. Ugly In The Morning posted:My Name Is Dolemite is really good though. I haven't seen it yet, but my point was that, regardless of quality, it seems like he gets this chance every five years and finds some way of loving it up. Krispy Wafer posted:Okay, that will definitely gently caress with your career. I hadn't seen him in anything for years, but watching his Netflix standup reminded me how funny he could be. Up until that point he had been delegated to the Rick Moranis wing of my childhood memories. Rick Moranis is another one where it's not his fault. His wife died of cancer when their children were very young, so he ended up slowly retiring through the 90s to become a full-time single father. He's only put out a few albums and made a couple appearances since then. Pope Corky the IX has a new favorite as of 19:14 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:Fake names is itself kind of a beautiful and underappreciated art. It's my love of ridiculous fake names that gave me Rupert Buttermilk in high school for every project I did where I could use it, so there was no contest as to what I'd use here on SA. Aphrodite posted:He wrote it so he's not innocent. Is this in reference to The Love Guru, or Master of Disguise? Rupert Buttermilk has a new favorite as of 19:21 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Is this in reference to The Love Guru, or Master of Disguise? Could be both, but at least Carvey didn't insist for years prior to its release that Pistachio Disguisey was the most brilliant character he'd ever created, unlike Myers with Guru Pitka.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Could be both, but at least Carvey didn't insist for years prior to its release that Pistachio Disguisey was the most brilliant character he'd ever created, unlike Myers with Guru Pitka. Oh my god, he said that? 
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