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Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
The fix is to use the normal rear end messaging app and not some third party shitware yeah

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ryanbruce
May 1, 2002

The "Dell Dude"
Wow. The app developer's name is Pervasive Group, Inc.

That's.. Quite the uphill battle with branding right from the start

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Textra has been good to me over the years, use that.

Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Iron Crowned posted:

Textra has been good to me over the years, use that.

Seconded

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

lol

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

I mean it's almost a certainty that someone has been receiving the messages.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Edit: Nevermind.

Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Nov 12, 2019

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
I recommend an iphone.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Admiral Joeslop posted:

The entire purpose of using MMGuardian is the parental controls, we didn't pick it for its bevy of texting features.

Back to the drawing board, I guess.

Stop being a helicopter parent, hth.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

LRADIKAL posted:

I recommend an iphone.

are you my dad?

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

Johnny Truant posted:

Stop being a helicopter parent, hth.

They were asking about texting apps on Fi, not parenting advice. If she's 20 then yeah it's weird but kids are socially pressured towards phones and tablets from a very young age. I can't even imagine trying to set up tech for a young kid to use. In a contest of bad parents, I don't think trying to make sure some creeps can't send dick picks would get you to the finals. There's a huge contrast between the internet today and the internet when "protecting your kids" was just installing NetNanny to block bangbros. My nieces and nephew can't even look at YouTube without being bombarded by those weird Russian kids videos of Spiderman humping Elsa or whatever so I dunno what makes you think trying to keep internet creeps away makes them a helicopter parent.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Bloodplay it again posted:

They were asking about texting apps on Fi, not parenting advice. If she's 20 then yeah it's weird but kids are socially pressured towards phones and tablets from a very young age. I can't even imagine trying to set up tech for a young kid to use. In a contest of bad parents, I don't think trying to make sure some creeps can't send dick picks would get you to the finals. There's a huge contrast between the internet today and the internet when "protecting your kids" was just installing NetNanny to block bangbros. My nieces and nephew can't even look at YouTube without being bombarded by those weird Russian kids videos of Spiderman humping Elsa or whatever so I dunno what makes you think trying to keep internet creeps away makes them a helicopter parent.

Keeping internet creeps away is one thing, but *checks notes* having a report of every text sent by your child at the end of the day, or a location tracker, is loving gross, and helicopter parenting, respectively.

Very possible to do all the things you want to prevent, which I'm all for, without resorting to this gross app.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Johnny Truant posted:

Keeping internet creeps away is one thing, but *checks notes* having a report of every text sent by your child at the end of the day, or a location tracker, is loving gross, and helicopter parenting, respectively.

Very possible to do all the things you want to prevent, which I'm all for, without resorting to this gross app.

You know literally nothing about the situation except the existence of an app and a child. You don't even know the child's age. If you aren't going to suggest things that could replace the app and instead just want to make things up to be smug about, gently caress off.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Also, just :lol: if the kid is over the age of 11, because by then they should have already figured out how to disable all that poo poo, like we all did at that age.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Admiral Joeslop posted:

You know literally nothing about the situation except the existence of an app and a child. You don't even know the child's age. If you aren't going to suggest things that could replace the app and instead just want to make things up to be smug about, gently caress off.

Where did I make anything up? That app has those features, and I think they are loving gross. You asked about the app, why are you surprised people looked at what the app is?

Iron Crowned posted:

Also, just :lol: if the kid is over the age of 11, because by then they should have already figured out how to disable all that poo poo, like we all did at that age.

:hmmyes:

I mean I guess it's teaching the kid how to buy a burner phone earlier?

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:

Admiral Joeslop posted:

You know literally nothing about the situation except the existence of an app and a child. You don't even know the child's age. If you aren't going to suggest things that could replace the app and instead just want to make things up to be smug about, gently caress off.

The fix to your technical issue is to use the normal android messaging app and not some sketchy third party shitware, because the third party shitware you bought apparently sucks.

The fact that creeping on your kid's communications is going to gently caress them up for years is just like, extra.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Lots of wild parenting advice going on in the Fi thread today lol.

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

Iron Crowned posted:

Also, just :lol: if the kid is over the age of 11, because by then they should have already figured out how to disable all that poo poo, like we all did at that age.

The difference here is that your parents' filter from the 90s probably didn't send a notification to one or more accounts indicating it had been disabled. If my parents' satellite receiver had emailed them every time I punched in their password to watch Real Sex or whatever on HBO, I'd have gotten my rear end beat. Plus, that was probably the worst they had to worry about. There wasn't a camera on our TV either.

Fi doesn't provide content filtering services for a monthly fee like the major carriers so it's not unreasonable to ask for advice here. A couple of people offered suggestions of a different app which is probably more in line with what they were looking for. No need to get lovely about it and provide unsolicited goony parenting advice.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
The smugness of a parent who truly believes they can forever outsmart their kids with technology is a joy to behold.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

Nobody loving cares about your opinions on parenting.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
quit being such a prude and let your children of all ages mainline snuff films and furry porn

Tatsujin
Apr 26, 2004

:golgo:
EVERYONE EXCEPT THE HOT WOMEN
:golgo:
Dang and here I was hoping they announced more third-party full feature support for non-Google phones on Fi :(

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
I just realized that the device protection that I had on my Pixel XL didn't go away when I turned in the phone and didn't update to the Pixel 3 I replaced it with and I've been paying it for several months. Guess I should look at my bills more often. That's some pretty scummy poo poo though.

nine16thsdago
Jun 29, 2005
fprintf(stderr, "this should never print\n");

nine16thsdago posted:

here's another goofy thing. i had homeassistant emailing certain messages to the fi sms gateway for almost a year. that previously always went to messages, no matter what i tried. after completing the above steps, they're now going to hangouts.

goofy update: i thought everything was OK after this, but it turned out that the messages via the fi sms gateway were only coming through when on sprint, never on t-mobile. when the thing switched to sprint from tmo, i'd suddenly get an avalanche of the messages i should have gotten since being on tmo.

that was the last straw. fi service itself is just too screwy in my area anyway. the delays in an actual incoming phone call ringing my device (on either service, through multiple handsets, physical sim & e-sim) has finally become too much of a problem to deal with.

so, trip report: i cancelled both lines on a fi group plan, sat in an at&t corporate store and had both numbers ported over in no time. that process was surprisingly easy & straightforward. on cancellation, one is presented with the option of porting numbers back to google voice or to another carrier. fi service was active all the way up until at&t initiated the port request, which took less than 5 minutes to complete, and i got status updates & email confirmations from google at every step. A++ would cancel again.

i had fi for 3 years. i really did like it for international travel, hangouts integration, straightforward billing, etc. i think if one lives in, e.g., a city with outstanding sprint/tmo service then it's probably awesome. no hard feelings, google. it's not you it's me.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
Google has posted their Black Friday deals, gonna be the Pixel 4 starting at $599, and Pixel 3a starting at $299. https://store.google.com/

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Thanatosian posted:

Google has posted their Black Friday deals, gonna be the Pixel 4 starting at $599, and Pixel 3a starting at $299. https://store.google.com/

That's not a bad price for the Pixel 3A and 3A XL, might have to pull the trigger. My anxiety about not having a backup phone has been ever so slightly increasing as my current Pixel XL keeps having tiny issues very infrequently..

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Johnny Truant posted:

That's not a bad price for the Pixel 3A and 3A XL, might have to pull the trigger. My anxiety about not having a backup phone has been ever so slightly increasing as my current Pixel XL keeps having tiny issues very infrequently..

Do it, I went from the XL to the 3A XL a little while back. My OG XL had really dropped in battery life over the last year, it's nice to spend a day listening to podcasts and not be at 13% battery by the time I get home.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I'd jump all over that if my Pixel 2 wasn't only like 16 months old and perfect for my use other than the battery.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Iron Crowned posted:

Do it, I went from the XL to the 3A XL a little while back. My OG XL had really dropped in battery life over the last year, it's nice to spend a day listening to podcasts and not be at 13% battery by the time I get home.

Welp, that settles it! Thanks :bubblewoop:

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
Cool that I spent like $900 on a pixel 3 xl lol. The phone owns but the cash lol. The drat cash.

Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Never buy a Pixel at full price. There will always be a sale or special.

couldcareless
Feb 8, 2009

Spheal used Swagger!
Fi is offering 50% back in fi credit when activating a new pixel 4 or pixel 4 XL

BrownieVK
Nov 10, 2009

Eat my ass
I currently have a pixel 2xl, and it's pretty fine for the most part. Would it be a downgrade to grab the 3a for $249? I'm kind of tired of a big phone and I know the camera on the 3/3a is better than mine.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



BrownieVK posted:

I currently have a pixel 2xl, and it's pretty fine for the most part. Would it be a downgrade to grab the 3a for $249? I'm kind of tired of a big phone and I know the camera on the 3/3a is better than mine.

I'm feeling the exact same way, so seconding this question.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


The screen might be. You'd be going from an OLED to a cheaper LCD. Colors are a little muted. My coworker is happy with his overall, though.

azurite fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Nov 26, 2019

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



I believe the 3a XL is OLED. Would that be a good equivalent?

BrownieVK
Nov 10, 2009

Eat my ass
Both the 3a and 3aXL have OLEDs.

Soysaucebeast
Mar 4, 2008




Thanatosian posted:

Google has posted their Black Friday deals, gonna be the Pixel 4 starting at $599, and Pixel 3a starting at $299. https://store.google.com/

Honestly, I kept going back and forth about upgrading from my Pixel XL to a Pixel 4 XL anyway. My Pixel works perfectly fine, but the lack of wireless charging annoys me (and the adapters for that aren't as good as I want them to be). Still, it's paid off and I have no complaints. I just want a new phone. But between this and the Google Fi 50% credit, I'm going to jump on it. I can get a Pixel 4 XL with the bigger hard drive for 350$ after I trade in my current phone. That's INSANE. And I can do the same thing for my boyfriend and get him an upgrade too.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


BrownieVK posted:

Both the 3a and 3aXL have OLEDs.

I stand corrected.

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Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*
Just keep in mind it is credit and not a rebate so you're looking at like $2,000+tax for phones upfront. It would take me about 1.3 years to burn through $400 of Fi credit at my current usage.

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