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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

There must surely be a law against impersonating another party.

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Blasmeister posted:

This is 100% to try to pretend the whole CUKTIG debacle never happened at a casual glance to trick super low info labour voters into ticking the same box as last election.

Shouldn't it be referred to the Electoral Commission? Am sure it can't be legal.

Ed: ^^ snap

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Actually, might get the pic framed for Dad's xmas prezzies. I already ordered the (overpriced) corbs scarf. That should tip the old bastard over the edge. I mean, what other scouser would be proud of being the wirral Conservative treasurer?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

The good word of the torah has spread to the invertebrate world, praise Yahweh

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Are you trying to kill your father for christmas?

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Angepain posted:

wow scottish labour really are stealing snp policies

https://twitter.com/TheScotsman/status/1194290274723418112

There's an open letter on this going, if anyone feels like throwing a signature at it.

EDIT: And the other one is linked in the article itself.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ThomasPaine posted:

The good word of the torah has spread to the invertebrate world, praise Yahweh
I'm waiting for the Evangelibrates to say that the only way for them to be truly saved is to hear the word of the ant-christ.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!




People are going to keep falling for that account, aren’t they. I mean, assuming that’s the fake - it’s impossible to tell.

Edit: poo poo, that’s what happens when you haven’t refreshed for a while. Whoops.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

gh0stpinballa posted:

so i agree, it's all garbage
Just for reference this was not the point I was making. The mainstream porn industry in Cali is garbage, certainly. But by cracking down on 'the porn industry' without being specific, you risk damaging the more honest and expressive good porn (and I include consensual BDSM and kink in that).

My point was that there are many different 'porn industries' and not all of them are good, not all of them are bad. If you read that list and thought that all of it was bad... Oof.

What I do object to are the Max Powers of the porn industry, the ones taking actresses, spitting on them, slapping them, belittling them offscreen into going to see plastic surgeons.

Misogyny is rife in the cali scene, both on and off camera. Now that's fine if that's your kink and it's labelled as such and everyone consents, but when that is the so called mainstream and it gives more naive viewers the impression that it's normal, something needs to change.


gh0stpinballa posted:

and we should be asking what makes people feel like they have to do it to survive
This is a little bit misogynistic though, assuming that women don't have sex drives or exhibitionist tendencies, or that they had to have been forced into it to be doing it. Aella (link is sfw image wise but obviously the text is about sex work) is one ex performer who is fairly passionate about this slightly misogynistic removal of agency.

When I see someone making money from sex work, the only reason I would feel sorry for them is how much poo poo they must put up with from stalkers. For example did you know that in both the US and UK, performers have to make their real names and addresses publicly accessible? There are ways around it, but the intent of the law is to absolutely make their real identity open to everyone.

Then again, female youtubers and cosplayers get similar poo poo for much lower pay, so maybe men are just dirt.

But really, the issue there is the danger inherent to an unregulated and unprotected industry. In the same way we fight for the rights of a mcdonalds worker who is doing it for the money, we should also fight for the rights of sex workers.

So with that in mind, why not regulate the industry to make it safe for them, rather than banning it so that they have one less way to survive?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I can't begin to describe how much I hate these 'reality check' articles

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/50395117

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Porn has no inherent problems.

Porn as it exists in our society can easily have a variety of problematic elements, ranging from its production to what impact it may have on viewers.

In short, dismantle capitalism and usher in a world-ending communist bacchanal.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



OwlFancier posted:

Are you trying to kill your father for christmas?

I should get a present too, shouldnt I?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

ThomasPaine posted:

I can't begin to describe how much I hate these 'reality check' articles

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/50395117

Lot of words to say "labour is 100% correct"

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Junior G-man posted:

He really is the gift that keeps on gaping. Special evening present for Sanitary.

https://twitter.com/MikeGapes/status/1194374636139679750?s=19

:love:

It’s incredible in so many ways.

Chuff McNothing posted:



Looking forward to explaining why this is now my placeholder image for design mockups.

:swoon:


Every pixel is perfect

KOGAHAZAN!! posted:

There's an open letter on this going, if anyone feels like throwing a signature at it.

EDIT: And the other one is linked in the article itself.

Thanks for posting this!

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



anyone remember badly dubbed porn on channel 4...? I remember finding it funny as a teenager, not sure if it holds up well

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

Josef bugman posted:

Oh dear, this actually makes me feel quite sad for him.
Don't, the oval office was gloating over the Bolivian coup the other day.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bobby Deluxe posted:

What I do object to are the Max Powers of the porn industry, the ones taking actresses, spitting on them, slapping them, belittling them offscreen into going to see plastic surgeons.
The good news is that those are the types of people who get hosed up most whenever the workers have a consistent voice, as what happened to Max Powers and happens more consistently whenever workers have a voice.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

When I see someone making money from sex work, the only reason I would feel sorry for them is how much poo poo they must put up with from stalkers. For example did you know that in both the US and UK, performers have to make their real names and addresses publicly accessible? There are ways around it, but the intent of the law is to absolutely make their real identity open to everyone.

Then again, female youtubers and cosplayers get similar poo poo for much lower pay, so maybe men are just dirt.

But really, the issue there is the danger inherent to an unregulated and unprotected industry. In the same way we fight for the rights of a mcdonalds worker who is doing it for the money, we should also fight for the rights of sex workers.

So with that in mind, why not regulate the industry to make it safe for them, rather than banning it so that they have one less way to survive?
That all seems to be consistent across the sex industry and, like you allude to, to women in the service industry in general.

There was a study in Germany that showed that just over 30% of women working in the sex trade had been subject to sexual assault or harassment, which sounds bad until it was contrasted with over 40% in the general service sector. The combination of misogyny and patriarchal right to abuse has far more to answer for in regulating the trade in the sex (and general service) sector than any broad anti sex worker rhetoric.

In short

Ms Adequate posted:

dismantle capitalism and usher in a world-ending communist bacchanal.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Junior G-man posted:

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1194320833977733123?s=20

This is the most shambolic, literally incredible, effort to 'humanise' this utter waste of flesh. Try to make it through the full four minutes. It's so painful.

And keep a close watch for 'completely random BAME Tory person' just wandering by randomly. As you do.

Holy poo poo.

They actually broadcast this, on the BBC, at 7pm. In one of their precious few Party Election Broadcast slots. You know, the ones Labour fill with professionally made videos with stirring music and heartfelt emotional voiceovers? The ones that are like gold dust for parties, that reach millions more voters than practically anything else they put out?

David Brent is trending on Twitter because of their broadcast. Is this some 4th-dimensional-chess, or are they really this cringe-inducingly bad?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Lol if you haven't been watching porn for so long that your tastes have become ultra-specific like "rainbow-colored sock closeup" or "eating ice-cream wearing gym shorts"

All the commercial stuff is boring anyway

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think it's often pretty helpful to look at the aspects of sex work you think are degrading and lovely and then consider that they apply pretty generally a lot of the time. Then you can feel weird being waited on at a restaurant, like me.

Chuff McNothing
Sep 9, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Junior G-man posted:

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1194320833977733123?s=20

This is the most shambolic, literally incredible, effort to 'humanise' this utter waste of flesh. Try to make it through the full four minutes. It's so painful.

And keep a close watch for 'completely random BAME Tory person' just wandering by randomly. As you do.

I’m the bright coloured pieces of paper with manifesto promises taped on doors.

someone’s glad he got out of Thick of It when he did.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Curious how that timeline on the wall finishes :v:

"David Cameron: hosed everything up by being a big brain boy"

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Barry Foster posted:

Isn't it that there's a risk of serotonin syndrome with tramadol if you're on SSRIs though? I could see a scenario where both issues apply.

(That's an actual question, I'm not lecturing the doctor lol)

Also to the guy whose dad said 'yes the tories are horrifically incompetent but labour would be even worse - that's exactly the situation 'ok boomer' was designed for.

Sorry this is going back a bit, catching up

There's a small risk of serotonin syndrome with SSRIs, it falls under the 'use with caution' category. Not likely to be clinically significant if you're giving someone a 30-pack of pills to use as needed, more of a worry if you want to give an elderly person regular full-dose tramadol with their sertraline.

Barry Foster posted:

Hey Jabby sorry to bother you and feel free to ignore this but are tablets that don't have a score in them suitable for splitting? I know it'll never be the case that it's an exact 50% split in distribution (probably not even in scored tablets now that I come to think of it) but is it likely to be close enough?

Sorry this is getting off topic

Depends how accurate a dose you need. You're absolutely right that splitting them by hand is likely to be a rough guess at best, using a pill cutter is better but still won't be 100% accurate. Having said that, 95% of drugs don't require totally accurate dosing to have the required effect and we use pill cutters all the time in hospital. The question to ask is, will it make a clinical difference if my dosing of this drug varies by 10% or so?

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

Sycophantry posted:

The email I received sent me to https://volunteer.peoplesmomentum.com/ so check there. I signed up through that and was instantly sent a Slack invite. Unfortunately, it just seemed to be a centrally sent out e-mail with no names.

volunteer.peoplesmomentum.com worked straight away. Grand.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Bloody Jews, going around in single file, lifting fifty times their body weight. Disgraceful

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

OwlFancier posted:

Then you can feel weird being waited on at a restaurant, like me.

I thought I was the only one. I hate feeling like someone is 'waiting on' me. Please, just bring whatever I ordered and put it on the table and I'll do the rest.

Don't:

- try to pour my wine out for me, I went to a relatively posh place for a birthday meal a few months back and they did this then took the bloody (expensive) bottle away and just kept coming back to top up our glasses when they looked short. This of course completely threw off my partner and I's ruthlessly egalitarian if somewhat indicative of alcoholism drinking ritual in which we precisely measure equal glasses. Even worse, as a vagina-haver she got the last bit despite drinking more than me during the meal because old fashioned restaurants have weird tory etiquette rules.
- ask if I want to 'taste the wine' first (I'll say if it's corked).
- for the love of god please don't try to put my napkin on my lap for me (even worse, one place I went the waitress didn't even ask. just picked it up from in front of me then lunged at my crotch without a word and I jumped out of my skin).
- Slightly different but I once came back from the toilet and found a waiter had taken my napkin off my chair and had neatly refolded it. No no no. Don't do this. Extremely uncomfortable feeling like I'm forcing people to do pointless busywork.
- Don't ask me how my food is during my meal. I'm British. I'm always going to say it's fine (well, there was one time but that was loving abysmal). You always catch me with a mouthful of food.

Just take my order, bring the stuff, take my money, go read a book in between. Please.

Ratjaculation posted:

anyone remember badly dubbed porn on channel 4...? I remember finding it funny as a teenager, not sure if it holds up well

Watching these on my crappy bedroom TV with the sound muted and a towel behind my door so my parents wouldn't know I was still up was a central element of my sexual awakening. I'd watch whole movies with nary a clue what was going on because of the possibility that there might be a few seconds of boob or even very softcore sex scenes! Yes, there were times when the credits rolled and I sat there disappointed, having wasted 90mins doing gently caress all.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Nov 13, 2019

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



ThomasPaine posted:

Watching these on my crappy bedroom TV with the sound muted and a towel behind my door so my parents wouldn't know I was still up was a central element of my sexual awakening. I'd watch whole movies with nary a clue what was going on because of the possibility that there might be a few seconds of boob or even very softcore sex scenes! Yes, there were times when the credits rolled and I sat there disappointed, having wasted 90mins doing gently caress all.

eurotrash was king

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I generally try to go places where you can clear your own table tbh.

I did once go to a fancy place and it was creepy, as you say, I don't get paying extra to make people treat you like an infant. At least not unless you go the whole hog and wear a nappy while you do it.

Chuff McNothing
Sep 9, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


i'm enjoying this shitposting thing

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Oh yeah I’ve been seriously poor most of my life and I absolutely cannot stand super posh places and
their weird thing where they treat you like a godking. I’ve been forced to go to some very high end places and it’s torture

I hate being treated like I’m somehow superior, it’s horribly uncomfortable

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Nov 13, 2019

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



i like it in places like wetherspoons where you can see the screen showing the food orders, and then showing which tables need to be checked.

so one minute into taking a bite of whatever microwaved wonder you've ordered a disinterested, underpaid and rushed table staff member comes and asks you how it is

like its loving poo poo dude, but it was only £5

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Pochoclo posted:

Oh yeah I’ve been seriously poor most of my life and I absolutely cannot stand super posh places and
their weird thing where they treat you like a godking. I’ve been forced to go to some very high end places and it’s torture

OwlFancier posted:

I generally try to go places where you can clear your own table tbh.

I did once go to a fancy place and it was creepy, as you say, I don't get paying extra to make people treat you like an infant. At least not unless you go the whole hog and wear a nappy while you do it.

See I agree with this 100% but I really like eating the delicious posh food when I can, I just wish I could do it in an environment that doesn't make me feel so uncomfortable.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

There should be a place that does like beef bovingnon out of a tureen on the counter and you get a ladle full of it and then stick your dishes in a rack at the end.

E: and you can get fried bread and black pud with everything.

E2: mercifully while I like fancy food I also like normal food and my favourite "fancy" food is like, chowder or a proper fish pie or something. Stuff I can't make properly at home or is fiddly, but generally you'll get it at a nice sit down chippy.

Or like a really good tomato soup or something. Again stuff that's fiddly to make one batch of but you can usually get a really nice version of in a cafe out of a giant vat.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Nov 13, 2019

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



when i was in wales there was a restaurant that had a heatlamped buffet table full of nothing but sausages, and i have no idea why still to this day

i didn't eat there because the one veg option was jacket potato for £8

Mrenda
Mar 14, 2012

Ratjaculation posted:

eurotrash was king

Queer as Folk :colbert:

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
Is the weird uptick in trans debates in scotpol just because of the self declaration gender bill, or do youse reckon there's more to it? Is there a comparable bill proposal by a party in England that has attracted similar TERF activity?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean the UK is full of transphobes for... reasons that keep getting explained but I keep forgetting because they're just garbo people.

They all crawl out of the woodwork doing articles in the papers and giving their hoity toity academic opinions as to why it's terrible whenever it comes up. Urgh. Sooner they all die off the better, bring on the gender anarchic future.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

OwlFancier posted:

There should be a place that does like beef bovingnon out of a tureen on the counter and you get a ladle full of it and then stick your dishes in a rack at the end.

E: and you can get fried bread and black pud with everything.

I'm pretty sure this is how the very old school french bistros worked and I love the idea.

Related little bit of trivia I learned from I think Down and Out in Paris and London was that these kind of places came out of the fact that many poor Parisians lived in small rented studios with no cooking facilities, so would eat out for every meal. Bistros provided affordable food and also doubled as effective social spots where you'd get wine and chat with your neighbours. I really like the idea as a kind of quasi-communal living setup.

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The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Bundy posted:

I've read on more than one occasion that smoking weed before something like your mid twenties can really gently caress you up mentally, particularly if you're already predisposed for some conditions, something to do with how it affects development that is still occurring post adolescence. Can't find it immediately atm.
So at the moment it is two separate things.

There is a growing body of research that indicates that your brain is still developing and growing until you are about 24 or so.

And there is also research to indicate that certain chemicals (like THC in cannabis) can have effects on the part of the brain.

I would say that in the future we will see more and more research that will bridge the gap between the two areas.
Anecdotally from my work, I have come across dozens of cases where young people (people in their mid 20’s) who have developed early onset schizophrenia very suddenly. And the concessions from the medical professionals are that heavy cannabis use when young is triggering it early.

Now this isn’t to say that smoking weed makes you develop mental health difficulties. There were likely genetically predisposed to mental health conditions like schizophrenia already. It is just being activated earlier by use of drugs when people are young and their brains are still developing.

My personal supposition from my experience is that if we are moving towards a future with legalized cannabis. (Note not decriminalising it, but making it legal to own.) it will be regulated so that you have to be 18 to buy it. (Because that is the age that all “adult” products are sold at.)
But it probably should actually be sold only to people over the age of 25/26 (whatever the medical age for when the brain finishes developing at.)
Now this would almost certainly be resisted, since it will be hard enough to stop 14-17 year olds from buying weed, that it you pushed the age up to the mid 20’s, you’d have an even larger group who want to buy it.

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