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Junior G-man posted:Fuckin' LMAO Shameless repost for the fresh page.
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i told gnasher there is a typo in their handle, let's see if i get mass reported by them and all the other MI5 blooters, even tho just from reading that post itt i now know more hebrew than they do
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Junior G-man posted:Fuckin' LMAO good god, I hadn't watched the video before (because why would I?) He's like watching a care home resident confusedly shambling around. How did they ever think this was a good idea? How did anyone ever think this guy had a single angstrom of charm or charisma? Why would you show people this?
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Junior G-man posted:Fuckin' LMAO
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Barry Foster posted:good god, I hadn't watched the video before (because why would I?) Yeah this was the first time I'd seen any of it and it's killing me inside holy gently caress
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bessantj posted:Rod Stewart has a massive model railway set. Looks really cool.  Nerd alert He's given teasers of his model railway to Railway Modeller Magazine over the twenty plus he's been building it. They've been sporadic. A short interview about it every few years, with a photograph of a section he's been building while on whatever tour he was doing at the time. Its pretty cool he's finally completed it and is allowing people to see more of the model, which looks amazing.
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A friend of mine gave up her Lib Dem membership today. Even among the wet liberals I know, the Lib Dems seem to have truly hosed it.
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coffeetable posted:this is a heck of a position to take Desktop and mobile apps, and currently full-stack webdev. I’m drawing here mostly on my experience of what I found to be most helpful and the particular categories of errors I’m seeing people making when their background is primarily front-end. But you’re pushing back super hard, so I guess my experience has not been as representative as I thought.
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Nov 13, 2019 17:42
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Hey guys, I think I've figured out how to bring the Independent Group for Change back on board with Labour. Just give them marijuana. Because if you add a J, they become TIGFJC!
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Nov 13, 2019 17:43
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Wonder who Chuka will defect to now
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:A friend of mine gave up her Lib Dem membership today. Even among the wet liberals I know, the Lib Dems seem to have truly hosed it. You love to see it.
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Diet Crack posted:Wonder who Chuka will defect to now Tories
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Look I really don't see how opening with lying to everyone about your figures in an extremely transparent way, following up with saying you're actually right and labour need to stand aside for the yellow tide that's gonna sweep the country, then saying actually your members who follow the "remain alliance" doctrine and stand aside in tight labour marginals are wrong and you'll send a dead rat in a yellow rosette to stand because clearly that's what the people want, could possibly have failed.
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gh0stpinballa posted:i told gnasher there is a typo in their handle, let's see if i get mass reported by them and all the other MI5 blooters, even tho just from reading that post itt i now know more hebrew than they do Let me know how it goes.
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Also can we get the lib dem always land right here image in the OP because it's brilliant and I also wanted to use it.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:A friend of mine gave up her Lib Dem membership today. Even among the wet liberals I know, the Lib Dems seem to have truly hosed it. Diet Crack posted:Wonder who Chuka will defect to now Part of me is hoping that, upon seeing this shithousery, more people will get involved in Labour from the Lib-dem end of things. I say this not just because it's good that more people become more socialist, but also because I think having a bit of wooly thinking around forces the rest of us to sharpen up on certain things and fight better. I would also like the Lib-dems as a political force to finally gently caress it up so badly that the Orange bookers do what they have always really wanted and just turn into Tories. Saying that... do we honestly think Chuka could go Tory? I mean it would be surprising! Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Jedit posted:Hey guys, I think I've figured out how to bring the Independent Group for Change back on board with Labour. Just give them marijuana. Because if you add a J, they become TIGFJC! 
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Diet Crack posted:Also can we get the lib dem always land right here image in the OP because it's brilliant and I also wanted to use it. https://twitter.com/AzzaBamboo/status/1179080831601643521
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Haven’t had a chance to read the thread because it’s been a hell of a day, but gently caress McCluskey and anyone who supports him.
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Wasn't boris talking about the Tories green Revolution only today lol https://twitter.com/alextomo/status/1194660500036096000?s=19
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McCluskey actually makes a... semi reasonable argument in the article, in that he categorically says that immigrants are not to blame for the effects of free movement undercutting labour power, asks for better labour regulation to counteract the hazards of free movement to the labour force, which, I mean, is right, but that doesn't make a good headline. I also don't really follow why that means we need to scrap the free movement thing given labour's very keen on better labour regulations.
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He'll be sent to the back of the queue for SKILLS WALLETS
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shocking. i am shjocked. https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1194662652754235394
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A second Lib-Dem enters the field. And Yes I am disappointed in McCluskey and that is something for a very long and in depth discussion about how best for Unions to make themselves heard inside of the Labour movement.
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I mean he's not wrong also that I think labour making any positive statement on migration is gonna alienate the older, kind of racist people they've spent so long trying to court up north. But you can't keep hanging on to them forever, and ignoring conference and the younger folk who make up the membership isn't good tactical sense either. To say nothing of the fact they're just wrong.
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lol she's getting owned in the replies https://twitter.com/emilyhewertson/status/1194410412860694528?s=20
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Someone on twitter made the very good point that it stands to reason labour would never stand its candidates down to stop brexit because they haven't made their platform solely about brexit.
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Barry Foster posted:He's like watching a care home resident confusedly shambling around. Third stage spirochetes?
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What "willingness" is Labour supposed to show? There is not a seat in the country where a Labour candidate standing aside would give the Greens a chance at a seat, it's such a stupid argument to even consider. Labour should not be stepping aside anywhere as it will only hand the Tories votes.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean he's not wrong also that I think labour making any positive statement on migration is gonna alienate the older, kind of racist people they've spent so long trying to court up north. I don't think immigration is such a huge issue as it was even 5 years ago, though it still will be to some folks, but I think the best time to comment on it is now at the start saying "Whilst we recognise what Mr McCluskey has said, we disagree because [list of reasons]" The fact is that you are never going to out Tory the Tories on this, and it gives us a potential boost in some sections. Alongside it being the right thing to do ofc.
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Josef bugman posted:I don't think immigration is such a huge issue as it was even 5 years ago, though it still will be to some folks, but I think the best time to comment on it is now at the start saying "Whilst we recognise what Mr McCluskey has said, we disagree because [list of reasons]" The fact is that you are never going to out Tory the Tories on this, and it gives us a potential boost in some sections. Alongside it being the right thing to do ofc. I think it will rapidly become an issue if labour raises it nationally, because the underlying resentment hasn't gone away I don't think, not at all, it's just gone a bit quieter perhaps because it's being phrased differently (i.e, via brexit) And yeah ultimately you've got to confront it, but understandably labour's shy of inviting the backlash from people whose votes they very possibly need, or who worse, might defect tory. It's one thing if a labour voter stops voting labour, it's another if they start voting tory. It might make a better foundation for the next election even if it costs them this one. But I get why even decent folk in the leader's office would be worried about it, it's hard to justify the risk of 5 more years of the tories and also risking a further right shift on immigration with the next leadership, in response. The best outcome would be they go for free movement and it motives a bunch more people to vote, and to campaign, maybe stealing more libs/greens/younguns in general.
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I love and have a lot of time for the Bedford Green PPC but he rarely keeps his deposit so he doesn't need to stand aside other than for PR. Also he's in a wheelchair so that term is rather insensitive.
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Junior G-man posted:Shameless repost for the fresh page. Fish and chips on a cold night at the beach, what the gently caress ever is that?
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OwlFancier posted:I think it will rapidly become an issue if labour raises it nationally, because the underlying resentment hasn't gone away I don't think, not at all, it's just gone a bit quieter perhaps because it's being phrased differently (i.e, via brexit) As I recall public polling on immigrants shifted positive after Leave won. Not like, super positive but it left net-negative territory.
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Private Speech posted:Fish and chips on a cold night at the beach, what the gently caress ever is that? A poorly-remembered attempt at wooing northerners.
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