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jonathan posted:Unrelated: I giggle anytime I read or hear someone say touristenfahrten In ETS2, all roads lead to Ausfahrt
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Is the Thrustmaster th8a a good shifter ? I have the t500rs wheel. Trying to decide between sequential or H pattern.
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Nov 12, 2019 01:59
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Yes the th8a is a very good shifter. Also I believe they all do both sequential and manual mode
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Nov 12, 2019 02:07
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Yeah I think the TH8A has a swappable gate to switch between H-pattern and sequential.
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Nov 12, 2019 02:10
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njsykora posted:Yeah I think the TH8A has a swappable gate to switch between H-pattern and sequential. And switch it to analog mode to use it as a handbrake.
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Nov 12, 2019 03:42
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jonathan posted:Is the Thrustmaster th8a a good shifter ? I have the t500rs wheel. I have one and like it a lot. There are also custom gates available if you want to make it a 4, 5, or 6 speed.
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Nov 12, 2019 04:15
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I recently dragged my Logitech G27 out of the cupboard where it's been gathering dust, and have been having some fun with it again. Unfortunately while I own a few newer racing games they were all ones I played with an Xbox controller, i.e. not very sim-y, and the wheel doesn't feel worth using. In particular the force feedback seems very underwhelming, though trying with my old games the wheel itself is fine. Do any modern sims have decent singleplayer 'career' modes? I don't really have the time or interest for online racing or setting up my own challenges, so something a little more structured would be nice.
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Nov 12, 2019 04:35
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uvar posted:I recently dragged my Logitech G27 out of the cupboard where it's been gathering dust, and have been having some fun with it again. Unfortunately while I own a few newer racing games they were all ones I played with an Xbox controller, i.e. not very sim-y, and the wheel doesn't feel worth using. In particular the force feedback seems very underwhelming, though trying with my old games the wheel itself is fine. If you want VR I think PCars 2 is probably your best bet for AI racing, and has some decent career tracks. If not then either PCars2 or Forza? The Codemasters F1 games have a pretty darn detailed campaign but only if you really like F1 and also don't support VR.
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Nov 12, 2019 04:41
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PCars2 yeah. It's the most "video game" of the sim racer crop, and I mean that in a good way. Gamey career poo poo is fun! There's also Dirt Rally, if you're into rally. Rally is a loving blast in VR. For other poo poo to gently caress around with: It doesn't have a nice career mode, but RaceRoom Racing Experience has VR support, good AI, and runs well. There's also Live For Speed, which has the benefit of being an older game, thus it runs well in VR and you can crank up the supersampling to make it look nice and clean. No fancy career mode, but it has a fun driving school with challenges/medals, similar to the Gran Turismo license tests, if you were into those. Both are free-to-play (demos, basically) so no harm in messing with either.
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Nov 12, 2019 05:16
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Did they ever fix the PCars2 AI? I remember when it came out, the AI cars would all just pile up at the start. I never ended up buying it because I only wanted it for a fun career.
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Nov 12, 2019 05:23
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Thanks for the suggestions. Man, I didn't even think about using it in VR! Edit: 10 hours left on 75% off for Project Cars 2, even better uvar fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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Nov 12, 2019 06:40
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uvar posted:Man, I didn't even think about using it in VR! Oh man, if you have a feedback wheel and an HMD you have got to get on that asap. Racing sims are like easily one of the best applications of VR right now.
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Nov 12, 2019 08:53
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Zaphod42 posted:Oh man, if you have a feedback wheel and an HMD you have got to get on that asap. Racing sims and Beat Saber are all I use mine for. Everything else I've tried feels like a bad tech demo.
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Nov 12, 2019 13:53
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Mr. Powers posted:Racing sims and Beat Saber are all I use mine for. Everything else I've tried feels like a bad tech demo. Flight sims and Elite Dangerous are okay too. Though you might need a Rift S/Vive Pro in order to have a decent enough display resolution to enjoy flight sims, and you might need a keen interest in big balls of rock/fire/farts in order to enjoy Elite Dangerous.
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Nov 12, 2019 14:06
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sim racing in VR is the most immersive and best thing in VR currently because the tactile feedback from FFB and that you're seeing your arms working just like they should be makes it the most complete sensory input out of any scenario.
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Nov 12, 2019 17:45
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Helicopter sims are also amazing in VR, for a similar reason as driving sims: the 3D projection makes it easy to "feel" the movement of your vehicle as you gently caress with various controls. For vehicles, that's the dipping and lifting of the frame as your brake and accelerate (which really helped me "get" the idea of using pedals to manipulate your steering) and the start of a spin. For helicopters, that's the "tilt" as you move the cyclic, especially when hovering. Not that these are impossible to process in 2D, but man, it really clicks for me in 3D.
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Nov 12, 2019 18:13
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jonathan posted:sim racing in VR is the most immersive and best thing in VR currently because the tactile feedback from FFB and that you're seeing your arms working just like they should be makes it the most complete sensory input out of any scenario. Also it creates and environment where you can move around really fast in an exciting way and change directions fast, but you also feel totally comfortable with zero motion sickness, because we're all totally used to sitting in cars and feeling like you're suddenly moving one way or another while your brain thinks you're just sitting still. Combined with yeah, interacting with things physically feels way better than grabbing onto holograms with no feedback. But nobody has like, a giant sword-fighting servo robot rig in their homes. Racing rigs though are totally a thing and are affordable and common, and provide a perfect force feedback and also just the physical shape and feel of a steering wheel, so what you see in VR you feel too, it all matches, and the experience is complete. Even in really good VR games like Job Simulator you're still aware that the objects you're "picking up" have zero weight and you can't feel them. The only time I've ever gotten motion sickness from a racing game was Driveclub on PSVR which I think just had poo poo frame rates or horrible latency or something.
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Nov 12, 2019 18:14
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Yeah I get so motion sick if I'm doing Minecraft or zero Caliber where there's not a teleport move option. Teleporting doesn't gently caress with the brain but walking totally makes me get queazy in about 15 min because my brain is like "hey dopus you're moving but also not". I have not had this issue in my many hours of iracing. Driving in vr rules. You can look through turns, you can check your sides etc. It's p nice. It just gets hot as gently caress during races when there good action...
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Nov 12, 2019 18:28
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I got pretty bad motion sickness when I started simracing in VR, but I've grown used to it now. Generally, the older you are, the more you're likely to get motion sickness. My nephew (21) has never had a problem, I (48) had to get used to it, and my stepfather (79) was dizzy and nauseous for several hours even though he only tried driving for five minutes!
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Nov 12, 2019 19:14
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I have an Oculus DK2 sitting in a closet ever since I got the Vive way back. Can the DK2 be used for anything these days? I hate just tossing a thing out and would rather donate it.
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Nov 12, 2019 20:23
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osker posted:I have an Oculus DK2 sitting in a closet ever since I got the Vive way back. Can the DK2 be used for anything these days? I hate just tossing a thing out and would rather donate it. Definitely not most VR, since there's no input and input is actually probably a bigger part of most VR than the HMD. But for sim racing, maybe. You'd have to do some hacky stuff but I bet you could get iRacing to render to a DK2 if you really really tried. There may be issues though since its not supported officially anymore and the resolution wouldn't be as good anyways. But anybody serious about VR sim racing probably already owns a VIVE or Index. I also have a DK2 (and a DK1 lol) sitting in my closet. I'm keeping them as museum pieces like my virtual boy, but I can appreciate wanting to find some use for it.
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Nov 12, 2019 20:31
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VR racing has ruined me. I normally do iracing and have for about the last year. Before that I was 100% GT Sport in 2D (I dont have PSVR). I fired up GT Sport the other night just to check in on it and try Spa and................I'm just horrible now. I blow all the corners, I cant judge my speed well, my braking points are all over the place, I have a hard time anticipating upcoming corners on tracks I dont know by heart, its all just bad now. I know the driving models are different, and that takes some getting used to, but after two solid nights of trying, I'm going back to iracing full time. I think 2D sim driving might be dead to me
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Nov 12, 2019 21:21
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I think 2D sim driving might be dead to me Its like going from racing in 3rd person camera to racing in first person with a wheel. Once you make the bump, its real hard to go back and find the old way satisfying.
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Nov 12, 2019 21:26
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I was unsatisfied with the non-racing VR software a few months back because there’s like, nothing good out for it so I sold my headset and got a big ultrawide monitor and I’m really not missing VR very much. The image clarity makes up for not being able to look left or right.
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Nov 12, 2019 21:33
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For me the big draw of VR is the depth perception. I'll take the depth and really being "in the car" any day over the enhanced clarity of a monitor. To each their own I guess If you have a beefy rig you can supersample your sims for added clarity. I run iracing at like 125% on a 1080ti and its pretty sharp.
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Nov 12, 2019 21:44
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GutBomb posted:I was unsatisfied with the non-racing VR software a few months back because there’s like, nothing good out for it so I sold my headset and got a big ultrawide monitor and I’m really not missing VR very much. The image clarity makes up for not being able to look left or right. You're missing out then though. I was disappointed with non-racing VR software a couple years back, but I got back into VR this year and there's so many good and incredible VR games now.
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Nov 12, 2019 22:18
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Thanks for the info on that shifter. I have it ordered on Prime and should be here in a couple days. My real life Ice Racing league got cancelled which im pretty choked about after prepping the car. I guess there wasnt enough entries to justify having my class so they dropped it, they're keeping motorcycle and atv though.
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Nov 12, 2019 23:10
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Love the concept of the th8a but I hate that it always gets scalped on amazon for like $150
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Nov 13, 2019 00:58
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Zaphod42 posted:You're missing out then though. I was disappointed with non-racing VR software a couple years back, but I got back into VR this year and there's so many good and incredible VR games now. I just sold my headset in August so I’m not sure what has come out since then that would change my mind but there wasn’t anything out with any depth. Beat Saber didn’t interest me, fallout 4 and skyrim were flawed at best, and everything else feels like tech demos. In the VR thread whenever anyone would ask which games were good everything is from 2017 aside from beat saber and blade & sorcery with nothing decent looking on the horizon. The few attempts by AAA devs fell flat because they were poo poo afterthought games like wolfenstein cyberpilot. I got my original rift when they dropped the price to $400 so I had it for a while and then got the Rift S when it came out so I definitely gave VR a chance but with no good games it just got old. I’m enjoying games in general on my ultrawide monitor way more than VR and using that monitor for racing is good enough for me. Jim Silly-Balls posted:Love the concept of the th8a but I hate that it always gets scalped on amazon for like $150 Scalped? That’s the MSRP. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Nov 13, 2019 01:01
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Oh? I thought msrp was like 80. I guess I’m not mad then
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:For me the big draw of VR is the depth perception. I'll take the depth and really being "in the car" any day over the enhanced clarity of a monitor. To each their own I guess This, at places like Daytona (in indy or nascar) it's really nice to be able to see the end of your hood and know where it is instead of it beign a flat thing. Some tracks / races it doesn't matter.. but *my imersion*
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Nov 13, 2019 02:12
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Project Cars 2 career stuff is pretty much what I was looking for, which is great! But (1) I forgot how noisy force feedback gets, at least with this wheel, and (2) I upgraded from a wood desk to tempered glass and I know theoretically how strong it is but I'm genuinely concerned it'll shatter. I might have to find an old book or bit of plywood to spread out the force a little and soothe my paranoia. I haven't tried VR yet, that'll wait until I figure out what buttons do what.
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Pcars 2 in VR is a treat. Yeah I’d spread the load on that table. The clamping forces plus twisting forces might be too much
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Nov 13, 2019 13:47
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Oh? I thought msrp was like 80. I guess I’m not mad then The logitech version is pretty cheap but it's only 6 speed, and many vehicles now are 7 + My pickup truck is a 10 speed Also Logitech's software is kind of bloated and I was glad to uninstall it when I unhooked the old DFGT wheel
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Nov 13, 2019 17:41
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There's very few 7+ speed H-pattern manuals out there anyway. I think the only one in pcars is the Corvette. (Range-splitter heavy truck gearboxes notwithstanding, those typically only require a 4-6 speed pattern and a couple switches)
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What's the consensus on the Fanatec shifter? I like the look of it and the fact that it'll just plug straight into my CSL. I also like the look of the Thrustmaster but after dealing with 4 dead T300s in a year, I'm pretty sure the Mrs. would raise an eyebrow at me letting that particular logo back in the house.
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Nov 13, 2019 22:52
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TremorX posted:What's the consensus on the Fanatec shifter? I like the look of it and the fact that it'll just plug straight into my CSL. I also like the look of the Thrustmaster but after dealing with 4 dead T300s in a year, I'm pretty sure the Mrs. would raise an eyebrow at me letting that particular logo back in the house. I have the club sport shifter, the ability to go from H to Seq with the flip of a switch is the poo poo. It is built really well and worth it if you have a sturdy thing to mount it to
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Nov 13, 2019 23:44
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TremorX posted:What's the consensus on the Fanatec shifter? I like the look of it and the fact that it'll just plug straight into my CSL. I also like the look of the Thrustmaster but after dealing with 4 dead T300s in a year, I'm pretty sure the Mrs. would raise an eyebrow at me letting that particular logo back in the house. Yeah I'm with osker, the ability to flip between sequential and H-shifter at a literal flip of switch, no swapping necessary, and you don't have to have 2 shifters next to each other, its great. Also it feels like its made out of lead and steel (it is) and so appropriately solid, sturdy, and high quality. Its expensive but you definitely get what you pay for. Bonus, it has a pretty standard threading, so I pulled off the default shifter knob and got an exact copy of my car's shifter from a junkyard and put it on there. Feels great. But yeah its big and heavy so make sure you can mount it.
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I also like the fanatec shifter
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TremorX posted:What's the consensus on the Fanatec shifter? I like the look of it and the fact that it'll just plug straight into my CSL. I also like the look of the Thrustmaster but after dealing with 4 dead T300s in a year, I'm pretty sure the Mrs. would raise an eyebrow at me letting that particular logo back in the house. Sup dead t300 Buddy. My t3pa pros have outlasted 2 T300 bases. As has my th8a. I feel like TM just can't build a wheel that doesn't poo poo itself.
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