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Nep-Nep posted:Funk dancing for 
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Nov 13, 2019 04:57
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BONESAWWWWWW posted:Steak, have you considered reaching out to the original author of the comic? I'm sure they would be thrilled to see a completely different audience appreciate the hard work (not to discount your own work). They may also ask him to stop.
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Nov 13, 2019 05:45
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Hot Stunt posted:They may also ask him to stop. It'd be an eternal standoff waiting for the first one to respond The endless plain of fortnite
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Nov 13, 2019 06:04
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Hot Stunt posted:They may also ask him to stop. While you're not wrong, I can't imagine the author being upset that his work has been introduced to a new audience (Even if it's an unofficial translation.) The least Mr. Steak could do is link the official website in the OP so it could generate some extra traffic. Which I assume he did. Also I've been thinking, how weird would it be if a couple years down the line, if there was a weird rear end anime produced from this comic.
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Nov 13, 2019 07:01
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Johnny-on-the-Spot posted:While you're not wrong, I can't imagine the author being upset that his work has been introduced to a new audience (Even if it's an unofficial translation.) The least Mr. Steak could do is link the official website in the OP so it could generate some extra traffic. Which I assume he did. There already are anime like that (isn't Nichijou essentialy everyday life told dramatically?), and an entire manga genre (gekiga, I think it's called? Manga about daily life, with its little and not so little tragedies). Still, I wouldn't read neither this comic, nor Sobutei, were it not for the OP - so thank you yet again, OP!
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Nov 13, 2019 08:40
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I dunno about asking the creator what they think about their work being reproduced, even if Steak is giving credit. I've been blocked by Japanese artists on Twitter just for retweeting their stuff that they posted (or maybe because I'm from NA, I don't actually know). It's obvious there's a set of etiquette around it that isn't at all like NA's, because using platforms as intended and publicizing someone's good and cool art isn't usually enough to result in being deprived of said art, but, well...
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Nov 13, 2019 12:00
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Jfc, please don't contact the author about a fan translation. Just don't. 
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Nov 13, 2019 12:12
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Yea, it’s risky. Even touhou guy has objected to his work circulating outside Japan. There’s a lot of paranoia about self-censorship and culture loss.
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Nov 13, 2019 12:26
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there is a long history of Japanese artists shutting the gently caress down forever the second they get wind of westerners being into their stuff so yeah, don't.
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Nov 13, 2019 13:33
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Light Gun Man posted:there is a long history of Japanese artists shutting the gently caress down forever the second they get wind of westerners being into their stuff so yeah, don't. Is there a document one could read on this phenomenon? Sounds weird as hell
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Nov 13, 2019 13:36
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Boiled Water posted:Is there a document one could read on this phenomenon? Sounds weird as hell not that I know of, I just have heard of it happening over the years. i'm failing to recall specific examples right now but i can vaguely recall there were entire websites where artists would post and they would close up and move to a new URL every time english comments started being commonplace and such. maybe my brain is poo poo and i'm talking out my rear end on this one but i could swear i've seen it happen. there's been like minor twitter fights about it for sure. edit: yeah if anyone has hard info on this phenomenon i'd like to see it too because i FEEL like i remember it happening but that's useless without specifics. Light Gun Man fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Nov 13, 2019 13:42
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Boiled Water posted:Is there a document one could read on this phenomenon? Sounds weird as hell I'd like to know if this exists too, because I see it happen a fair bit on the Twitter artist scale and have heard rumors of sites shutting down and URLs changing, but haven't got concrete evidence or confirmation of reasons.
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Nov 13, 2019 14:12
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Miss posted:Those who can't, teach
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Nov 13, 2019 14:55
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Yikes, nevermind then. Wasn't looking at it from a cultural perspective. Shame though.
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Nov 13, 2019 15:02
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I doubt the author of NEET comics has a multiple circles making hundreds of hours of fan music and art for his comic. He'd just be surprised his work made it overseas.
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Nov 13, 2019 15:05
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You'd think, but in my experience neither the size of the account nor the severity of the reaction line up with that, or with each other.
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Nov 13, 2019 15:36
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bob human being posted:. He'd just be surprised his work made it overseas. Japanese authors can and have been real sensitive about exactly this, sometimes even deleting their work wholesale from the internet. Jfc goons don't ruin this for us
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Nov 13, 2019 17:10
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xenophobia has nothing to do with "cultural sensitivity" and even if not talking to this dude is ultimately the right thing to do, assuming hes gonna throw a tantrum isnt a good way to respect any artist.
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Nov 13, 2019 17:18
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Kazak posted:Japanese authors can and have been real sensitive about exactly this, sometimes even deleting their work wholesale from the internet. I don't get this, why put your art online if you don't want people looking at it? Is it some kind of cultural chauvinism or are foreign fans a real pain in the rear end somehow?
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Nov 13, 2019 17:18
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bob human being posted:xenophobia has nothing to do with "cultural sensitivity" and even if not talking to this dude is ultimately the right thing to do, assuming hes gonna throw a tantrum isnt a good way to respect any artist. Laws are also involved. Don't make wild assumptions about nebulous poo poo like "respect".
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Nov 13, 2019 17:21
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pnumoman posted:Laws are also involved. Don't make wild assumptions about nebulous poo poo like "respect". I can't tell if youre quoting me because youre with what I said or against it. Either way I'm curious as to what international laws are at risk of being violated by sending this guy a message of "konichiwa i like your comic(tl note comic means manga) edit: wait i figured it out its the "scantelators" connundrum. Dont think it applies because this isn't being published in a magazine. guess the bottom line is he might ask mr steak to stop and even take it down. fun that this came up tho. Theres a rule in the manga translator scene that you arent supposed to contact tite kubo with a "I changed Ichigo's dialog so instead of saying 'daijobu' he says 'youre alright fuckface' and released the chapter online an entire week before the magazine was published I hope thats okay" because of course its not okay. Meanwhile this is a japanese guys drunkduck or keenspot hosted webcomic. just bob fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Nov 13, 2019 17:23
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Nah, people still nuke their accounts even when translation isn't involved at all. Unless you meant just the legal issues part, which, yeah, the translation aspect is a problem legally on top of the risk of someone getting rid of their work entirely. Ultimately I'm just continuing to talk about it because I hope someone can provide an answer. I've dealt with this on a small scale for a long time now and I'd love to know how to show support to Japanese artists in a way that registers as respectful. So far the only working answer has been "pretend I never saw it" but man that feels so wrong.
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Nov 13, 2019 17:51
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Lysistrata posted:So far the only working answer has been "pretend I never saw it" but man that feels so wrong. It's a funny conflict. Dude might be a NEET himself who long ago gave up on getting any sort of fame and recognition.
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Nov 13, 2019 17:58
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Mr. Lobe posted:I don't get this, why put your art online if you don't want people looking at it? Is it some kind of cultural chauvinism or are foreign fans a real pain in the rear end somehow? Idk but I'm also curious for an explanation, I've seen several Japanese artists on social media delete their entire presence and art postings.
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Nov 13, 2019 18:09
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I had an ex who was heavily into Sims 3. When it came to clothes and hair some of the most talented modders were Japanese and they would fight tooth and nail to keep their stuff out of the hands of filthy gaijin. Over all there was an insane amount of drama within the Sims community but the poo poo that stemmed from Japanese mods was on another level.
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Nov 13, 2019 18:12
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Possible ways this can go: OR  Lodin posted:I had an ex who was heavily into Sims 3. When it came to clothes and hair some of the most talented modders were Japanese and they would fight tooth and nail to keep their stuff out of the hands of filthy gaijin. Over all there was an insane amount of drama within the Sims community but the poo poo that stemmed from Japanese mods was on another level. Never thought about it but I'm not surprised the "make people and play god with their lives" game community has drama regarding actual people. just bob fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Nov 13, 2019 18:13
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Nov 13, 2019 20:55
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no posts in an entire hour? is this thread dead or something??
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Nov 13, 2019 22:06
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The Dark NEET Rises
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Nov 13, 2019 22:08
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Nov 13, 2019 22:11
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NEET thoughts go in circles. Same topics all the time. But it's been a surprisingly long time since we've had any food related information and I hope we get back to that soon.
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Nov 13, 2019 22:15
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so much for the path of redemption 
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Nov 13, 2019 22:16
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jemand posted:NEET thoughts go in circles. Same topics all the time. yeah seriously. what is he gonna have for dinner???
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Nov 13, 2019 22:16
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no, not that place
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Nov 13, 2019 22:20
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Only NEET logic. “Having been in jail for a murder I didn’t commit I can’t get a job, so maybe I’ll actually commit a murder so that I’ve had the experience”.
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Nov 13, 2019 22:26
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hyphz posted:Only NEET logic. “Having been in jail for a murder I didn’t commit I can’t get a job, so maybe I’ll actually commit a murder so that I’ve had the experience”. *... so that i can have the credentials to make a living teaching others how to kill. truly this man is galaxy brain
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Nov 13, 2019 22:30
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 also this is a perfect place to stop for now
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I know it's a pickaxe but I prefer to read that as a reaper's scythe depicting "a job"
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