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The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I'm gonna be one of those guys and say the vinyl master on in rainbows is superior

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pzy
Feb 20, 2004

Da Boom!
Anyone collect Radiohead stuff? There's some surprisingly rare/expensive things.

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
On Jigsaw Falling Into Place there’s a buildup and during it the sound of the fingers sliding on the guitar string seem to have more travel than the guitar itself and I hate it. It’s so gross.

Filipino
Nov 6, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Polo-Rican posted:

IMHO In Rainbows is innovative because it showed that Radiohead wasn't a one-way road . When Hail to the Thief came out, lots of people would point to songs like The Gloaming or Backdrifts and say "ah, yes — this is what Radiohead will sound like in the future," as if all the band were capable of is a long, linear slide into ambient bloopy electronic music. But is that really innovation? If their next album had been the most echoey, the bloopiest, the starkest electronic album to date, would that be interesting? Or would that have been what everyone expected? In Rainbows opens with 15 step, a 5/4 track that blends rock and electronica and rocks really loving hard... who would expect Radiohead to simply start rocking again? Bodysnatchers is an even more direct and simple rock track... then later on you have tracks like Reckoner and Faust Arp, which were some of their most lush songs to date and sound like nothing they'd really done before. Anything felt possible in the band's future after In Rainbows.

This is a good post and makes me question my own opinion.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
is it though

Tim Burns Effect
Apr 1, 2011

speaking as someone who's been a fan of both RH and thom's solo work for over a decade now, i saw thom's live show like a month ago and iiiiii did not love it. the music itself is good but man is it not fun to watch being performed. you get thom doing his dances along with two guys (one of whom specializes in basically doing a dynamic version of the old windows media player visualizer) who stand at tables and don't move the whole time.

plus their tables were silver so it just kinda looked like a few guys loving around in an apple store

Filipino
Nov 6, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I know everyone hates ranking albums but how about choosing your favorite 10 Radiohead songs in no particular order? Would this be acceptable or just bad and dumb? I'd be really interested to see some posters lists.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
If we're gonna do pyf maybe let's do something a bit fresher like your favourite weird little bits of performance or production in radiohead songs

Stuff like that screechy twangy sound in The Bends where Johnny pulls the string straight off the fretboard (this isn't a particular favourite but it's the kind of thing I mean)

But this is too is only a suggestion

Filipino
Nov 6, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
In no particular order

1. Daydreaming
2. Present tense
3. Pyramid song
4. Everything in its right place
5. Kid A
6. Let down
7. Myxamatosis
8. Wolf at the door
9. Scatterbrain
10. Videotape

Tenterhooks
Jul 27, 2003

Bang Bang
The bit in Let Down where Thom's vocal splits in two still gets me - always think Ed should at least have a go when they play it live as it's a bit of an anticlimax. Also the twinkly bleeps as the song fades out are very nice too.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Tenterhooks posted:

The bit in Let Down where Thom's vocal splits in two still gets me - always think Ed should at least have a go when they play it live as it's a bit of an anticlimax. Also the twinkly bleeps as the song fades out are very nice too.

Does he not? What a waste, that may be the best bit of the whole song, it soars.

In general it annoys me a bit that Thom does all the backing vocals on the records that Ed (and Phil I guess) do live. Give Ed A Chance

Paperback Writer
May 1, 2006

I like the: spooky sounds in Like Spinning Plates + the vocal harmonies of I Will

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Tim Burns Effect posted:

speaking as someone who's been a fan of both RH and thom's solo work for over a decade now, i saw thom's live show like a month ago and iiiiii did not love it. the music itself is good but man is it not fun to watch being performed. you get thom doing his dances along with two guys (one of whom specializes in basically doing a dynamic version of the old windows media player visualizer) who stand at tables and don't move the whole time.

plus their tables were silver so it just kinda looked like a few guys loving around in an apple store

This makes me feel so old, but despite how much I'm on board with unconventional / electronic / auteur music, I still can't really figure out how anyone will ever make it just as exciting as live instruments in a concert setting. #changemymind

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Filipino posted:

I know everyone hates ranking albums but how about choosing your favorite 10 Radiohead songs in no particular order? Would this be acceptable or just bad and dumb? I'd be really interested to see some posters lists.

I think it's way too hard to do an objective subjective list for this so instead I'll just say my favorite Radiohead song is No Surprises. I don't care if that's a "normie" pick, that song is like a warm blanket on a cold, miserable night.

blossommirage
Nov 7, 2012

Framboise posted:

I think it's way too hard to do an objective subjective list for this so instead I'll just say my favorite Radiohead song is No Surprises. I don't care if that's a "normie" pick, that song is like a warm blanket on a cold, miserable night.

It's definitely up there for me. That last chorus has brought me to tears more times than I can count.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Yeah it's too drat real. OK Computer overall is amazingly prescient about the sheer exhausting inescapable shitness of late capitalism even though it was made in the relatively optimistic 90s.

Although I suppose Thom was too smart to fall for that

Astrochicken
Aug 13, 2007

So you better go back to your bars, your temples
Your massage parlors!

That breathless scream at the end of "Just" that is either a sample of or homage to a Prince song.

talktapes
Apr 14, 2007

You ever hear of the neutron bomb?

Tim Burns Effect posted:

speaking as someone who's been a fan of both RH and thom's solo work for over a decade now, i saw thom's live show like a month ago and iiiiii did not love it. the music itself is good but man is it not fun to watch being performed. you get thom doing his dances along with two guys (one of whom specializes in basically doing a dynamic version of the old windows media player visualizer) who stand at tables and don't move the whole time.

plus their tables were silver so it just kinda looked like a few guys loving around in an apple store

Guy who made album on laptop performs music from album live... on laptop??? Well I never!

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

talktapes posted:

Guy who made album on laptop performs music from album live... on laptop??? Well I never!

It shouldn't come as any surprise but it doesn't mean the live show isn't typically boring as hell

talktapes
Apr 14, 2007

You ever hear of the neutron bomb?

Right so don't buy the ticket and go to the show if it doesn't seem like something you'd be into. It's like saying "I went to see Kraftwerk, they were on their computers the whole time and all they had were a bunch of boring visuals!" Like what did you expect exactly, it's electronic music

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
There’s very few ‘electronic’ acts that have pulled off an exciting, purely synth live show. Depeche Mode comes to mind, but even they started throwing in live instruments in the early 90s. Pet Shop Boys rely on theatrics and dancers.

Then again, maybe I’m just old too and hovering over a laptop is cool now. Not knocking Thom and company, mind you.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!
A keytar could help!

Tim Burns Effect
Apr 1, 2011

talktapes posted:

Right so don't buy the ticket and go to the show if it doesn't seem like something you'd be into. It's like saying "I went to see Kraftwerk, they were on their computers the whole time and all they had were a bunch of boring visuals!" Like what did you expect exactly, it's electronic music

sometimes you buy the ticket and go to the show because it DOES seem like something you would be into and then it turns out to be loving boring, oh well

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Nail Rat posted:

A keytar could help!

this. There are plenty of ways to put on an exciting live electronic music show. There is a guy who conduct the musicians at the bit awards (Adam neeley has videos of them on his YouTube channel) who performs using a Midi clarinet to do synth lines and it's as involving as a, well, clarinet player.

[Edit: Matt Bellamy has guitar(s?) with a Midi pad built in that he uses live, to pretty good effect]

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

HD DAD posted:

There’s very few ‘electronic’ acts that have pulled off an exciting, purely synth live show. Depeche Mode comes to mind, but even they started throwing in live instruments in the early 90s. Pet Shop Boys rely on theatrics and dancers.

Then again, maybe I’m just old too and hovering over a laptop is cool now. Not knocking Thom and company, mind you.

Aren’t some of the biggest live acts in the world DJs? It’s ok if that’s not your thing but there are plenty of people who think an edm set is very exciting.

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

Tim Burns Effect posted:

sometimes you buy the ticket and go to the show because it DOES seem like something you would be into and then it turns out to be loving boring, oh well

I learned my lesson with this when I saw Mike Paradinas in like 2004. I think he was performing as μ-Ziq at that particular time and it was him standing on stage of this little club staring at his MacBook. No visuals, no crowd interaction, no nothing. I'm still convinced that he was just looking at porn and playing us MP3s.

The Kraftwerk example doesn't hold water because the visuals are super awesome

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Sir Lemming posted:

This makes me feel so old, but despite how much I'm on board with unconventional / electronic / auteur music, I still can't really figure out how anyone will ever make it just as exciting as live instruments in a concert setting. #changemymind



All of the best electronic music I've ever seen performed live all had live percussion - The Presets, Digitalism, The Faint, it really adds a lot.

that said, I think The Presets do the best live electronic show around hands down. this drop in 'my people' is one of the single coolest things it's possible to be part of in a live music setting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEqpv3O7Hak&t=506s

The Walrus fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Nov 13, 2019

Tim Burns Effect
Apr 1, 2011

Sir Lemming posted:

This makes me feel so old, but despite how much I'm on board with unconventional / electronic / auteur music, I still can't really figure out how anyone will ever make it just as exciting as live instruments in a concert setting. #changemymind

more of them should use those cool gloves imogen heap has


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXpkLWQqETY

Bismack Billabongo
Oct 9, 2012

New Love Glow
There There used to be my favorite Radiohead song but now it’s Weird Fishes. I also like Reckoner and Talk Show Host a lot.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Bangers + Mash is low key top 10 Radiohead. It also signaled the direction they’d take for their next, and best album.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003

HD DAD posted:

Bangers + Mash is low key top 10 Radiohead. It also signaled the direction they’d take for their next, and best album.

I don’t see the connection. Explain?

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jewmanji posted:

I don’t see the connection. Explain?

Little by Little is not dissimilar from Bangers & Mash in my mind. Lofi Television-inspired rock.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

Jewmanji posted:

I don’t see the connection. Explain?

Loop-based, Talking Heads-esque, generally groovy rock.

asecondduck posted:

Little by Little is not dissimilar from Bangers & Mash in my mind. Lofi Television-inspired rock.

Yes!

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
Bangers and Mash is fun, and rivals Dollars and Cents as the closest they've come to sounding like Damo Suzuki-era Can.

blossommirage
Nov 7, 2012

Lift is my favorite song, it's really simple and poppy, but I love it so much. I have no idea how to order the rest, but other songs would probably be Lucky, Karma Police, Let Down, Pyramid Song, You and Whose Army?, How to Disappear Completely, Idioteque, The Bends and Codex.

Filipino
Nov 6, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

blossommirage posted:

Lift is my favorite song, it's really simple and poppy, but I love it so much. I have no idea how to order the rest, but other songs would probably be Lucky, Karma Police, Let Down, Pyramid Song, You and Whose Army?, How to Disappear Completely, Idioteque, The Bends and Codex.

We have many of the same in our top 10. I really wanted to include Codex but couldnt fit it in.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Even if it's not necessarily my absolute favourite, I somehow feel Pyramid Song is the perfect Radiohead song

Filipino
Nov 6, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Barry Foster posted:

Even if it's not necessarily my absolute favourite, I somehow feel Pyramid Song is the perfect Radiohead song

It is. The drumming on it is schizophrenic. It's perfect. I read an interview with Thom once saying it was the most beautiful thing theyve ever done. He also said that about How to Dissapear though.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Filipino posted:

It is. The drumming on it is schizophrenic. It's perfect. I read an interview with Thom once saying it was the most beautiful thing theyve ever done. He also said that about How to Dissapear though.

I mean, it's a toss-up, since both still give me goosebumps even though I've listened to them both a zillion times

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asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rollersnake posted:

Bangers and Mash is fun, and rivals Dollars and Cents as the closest they've come to sounding like Damo Suzuki-era Can.

Duh, I said that B&M/Little By Little sounded like Television but I meant to say Can. Dunno where my brain went.

blossommirage posted:

Lift is my favorite song, it's really simple and poppy, but I love it so much.

I totally get why Radiohead cut Lift from OK Computer but I cannot for the life of me explain why they didn't bring it back for In Rainbows. I guess they didn't want another OKC era b-side on it?

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