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HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014

Private Speech posted:

Honestly the Hungarian uprising was the most iffy of the lot, they went about torturing and murdering communists and there was a fair claim to former fascists participating in it.

I just went back a page or two and jesus christ did bowsette avatar really try and equate Hungarian white-nationalists to thirdworld national liberation movements?

There is a meaningful qualitative difference between "we, the people of [colonized country] assert our right to be equal human beings and not slaves" and "death to judeobolshevism, we are the master race".

gently caress the hungarian uprising, it was a pogrom.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

He also referred to Grenfell as "a poster for neoliberalism" which angered a lot of the gammony types.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

HorseLord posted:

The PRC's 70s era rambling about "social imperialism" was entirely concocted to justify moving into the American sphere of influence. It doesn't contradict Lenin, rather it makes the unsubstantiated claim that the USSR's relationship with the eastern bloc countries was to economically exploit them (As we all know, they were all basket cases in debt to the west and needed soviet charity to survive). This was padded out a lot by pointing to the USSR's botched simplification of economic planning in the 1960s, and then using it to claim that capitalism had been restored there, which, you know, lol

The real reason they made these claims is that with their separation from the USSR they had no choice but to join the American sphere of influence for foreign investment, and they couldn't justify this as communists unless they suddenly "discovered" that the USSR and not USA was the primary imperialist threat.

Like trotskyism it's made up bullshit for political power plays instead of a scientific appraisal of the situation, and just like Trotskyism lots of stupid people fell for it. It's why you got Maoists who were stupid enough to fight alongside the Taliban against "Soviet imperialism" and then were surprised to find themselves decapitated when they won.
interesting post, thanks!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/grahamemorris/status/1194928271042977793?s=20

lmao

https://twitter.com/emmadentcoad/status/1194910788332462081?s=20

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

HorseLord posted:

I just went back a page or two and jesus christ did bowsette avatar really try and equate Hungarian white-nationalists to thirdworld national liberation movements?

There is a meaningful qualitative difference between "we, the people of [colonized country] assert our right to be equal human beings and not slaves" and "death to judeobolshevism, we are the master race".

gently caress the hungarian uprising, it was a pogrom.

so the thing that people get accused of being tankies for supporting was actually necessary to end a pogrom?

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

Tenebrais posted:

Clive Lewis, MP for Norwich South. He got caught in a bit of a kerfuffle over calling someone a bitch and stepped out of the limelight. He's still around, running for re-election and all, just not making big media appearances.

he's well on board for the abolish billionaires policy op

https://twitter.com/bbcnewsnight/status/1190039075706814464

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

There wasn't any Soviet colonialism or imperialism, so no. And rounding up and killing Jews and Roma because they were seen to be (and likely were) supportive of the communists for destroying the Hitlerite Horthi regime isn't good. hth.

You should read Hungarian Tragedy by Peter Fryer, who was expelled from the communist party for reporting what he saw while he was actually there

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
love our press

https://twitter.com/PriyamvadaGopal/status/1194916628686868480?s=20

HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014

gh0stpinballa posted:

so the thing that people get accused of being tankies for supporting was actually necessary to end a pogrom?

I suppose it was "unnecessary" in the sense that pogroms stop when you run out of Jews to kill. That's not an outcome I find acceptable though.

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006


i originally went to the national rail site to find out that a first class day return ticket from London to Taunton is £339.00 but lol what are the chances of the PM actually using a rail replacement bus service - anyone doing the momentum computer touching should be pushing this

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i'm no assange fan but ffs

https://twitter.com/markcurtis30/status/1194909650879176704?s=20

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


it's insane to me that fronts for the loving RSS, a paramilitary who exist to murder non-Hindus, is allowed to parade around our country without comment while Corbyn is whined about constantly for terrorist sympathy

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

I see it, I see it! :swoon:

Zoom. Enhance. (Also know as 'click through to the full-sized image'.)



:gonk: Oh god, Ed! Please get some sleep! :ohdear:

I'm sticking with this one:

Braggart fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Nov 14, 2019

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

HorseLord posted:

I suppose it was "unnecessary" in the sense that pogroms stop when you run out of Jews to kill. That's not an outcome I find acceptable though.

Welcome to the Liberal Democrats.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

HorseLord posted:

I suppose it was "unnecessary" in the sense that pogroms stop when you run out of Jews to kill. That's not an outcome I find acceptable though.

Were Jewish Hungarians like Istvan Angyal deep cover antisemites?

ContinuityNewTimes fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Nov 14, 2019

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/ShreddedReTweet/status/1194809949655830535?s=20
https://twitter.com/ShreddedReTweet/status/1194927818188169217?s=20

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Another example of satire seeping into reality:

Election candidate to change name to 'Mr Clacton Brexit' posted:

AN election candidate wants to legally change his name to Mr Clacton Brexit in a bid to ensure 'Brexit' remains on the ballot in the town.

Andrew Morgan, 52, from Clacton, was left upset after Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage announced the party would not be standing in 317 Conservative-held seats - including in Clacton - at the General Election.

Mr Morgan now wants to change his name by deed poll to Andrew Morgan Clacton Brexit and will stand for election in Clacton.

He hopes the new name will appear on the ballot paper, but it is understood election bosses are looking into the legality of the move.

If it is not accepted, it is understood Mr Morgan will stand under his own name as an independent, although he said he has been offered the chance to stand for two other parties.

The ex-soldier and dad-of-two, who runs a firm restoring classic vehicles, had supported Brexit Party candidate Matthew Patten before he withdrew.

trypsin
Jul 8, 2007

mediadave posted:

I want to do some canvassing, but I live in West Oxford, a Con/Lib marginal. And East Oxford is safe Labour, and the rest of Oxfordshire is very safe Tory. The nearest labour marginals are in Reading - does anyone here live/canvass in Reading?

<delurk>Victoria Prentis has a ~13k Majority in Banbury, but that's down from 18k in 2015, the Labour candidate Suzette Watson is really nice and (as a first timer to this) there seems to be good energy and positivity in the campaign despite the uphill battle. Depends where you live but North Oxfordshire villages in the west of Banbury constituency like Hook Norton might be really quite close to you. There are some details on mylabour or I have PMs if you're interested...</delurk>

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019


whether we like the guy or not this whole thing is a travesty tbh, UN guy says he's showing clear emotional and physical signs of torture and by all accounts the british court has been entirely subordinated to the whims of the CIA

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

gh0stpinballa posted:

whether we like the guy or not this whole thing is a travesty tbh, UN guy says he's showing clear emotional and physical signs of torture and by all accounts the british court has been entirely subordinated to the whims of the CIA

yeah they stuck him in solitary confinement as soon as they could

anyway lMao

https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1194934753348214784?s=20

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Why are we not sending him to Sweden for his real crimes instead of the US for his fake crimes?

I know why but it's loving irritating and proves that the state cannot be trusted.

HorseLord posted:

pogroms stop when you run out of Jews to kill.
They don't, the people doing them just move the goalposts from 1/8 Jewish to 1/16 to 1/32 to 'has curly hair and glasses'.

The first rule of antisemite club is "There's always crypto-Jews."

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

HJB posted:

Another example of satire seeping into reality:

https://twitter.com/Milo_Edwards/status/1194930722466873345?s=19

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/JOE_co_uk/status/1194926326240677888?s=20

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

HJB posted:

Another example of satire seeping into reality:

well he's got until 4pm, lets see how fast our bureaucracy works!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


https://twitter.com/ShreddedReTweet/status/1194934951348707329

Saved the best 'til last.

"What I think of him?"

Interviewer: "Yes."

"[censored by broadcaster]"

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


We really can't afford another five years of Tory rule:

https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1194890299585290240?s=20

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lmao at brendan o'neills reactions to this

https://twitter.com/kevinjgsmith/status/1194348519102042113?s=20

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


can some comrade repost the mashup of bojos weird speech and the thick of it stuff, please?

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Communist Thoughts posted:

can some comrade repost the mashup of bojos weird speech and the thick of it stuff, please?


https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1194558449239109632?s=20

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Communist Thoughts posted:

can some comrade repost the mashup of bojos weird speech and the thick of it stuff, please?

https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1194558449239109632

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

curses, foiled again

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That's the only Brendan O'Neill interview that I've enjoyed watching. Now that we have the potential for hundreds of TV channels there should be the news, the news with sign language guy, and the news with Brendan O'Neill shaking his arse head in the corner.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Tesseraction posted:

curses, foiled again

If it wasn't for us meddling posters ...

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Jose posted:

lmao at brendan o'neills reactions to this
eyebrows go up, lips purse, eyebrows go down, head shake, smirk, repeat

i liked that she kept going whenever he tried to interject. more people should speak over him, ideally all the time. something similar happening to his keyboard wouldn't go amiss either

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Pochoclo posted:

Oh yeah I’ve been seriously poor most of my life and I absolutely cannot stand super posh places and
their weird thing where they treat you like a godking. I’ve been forced to go to some very high end places and it’s torture

I hate being treated like I’m somehow superior, it’s horribly uncomfortable

I hate going anywhere and being called 'sir', but I also acknowledge the price I pay for being in that power dynamic in the first place is me being uncomfortable. Though being asked how my food is whilst I'm chewing boils my piss, I keep wanting to raise my hand to make them wait until I can reply but I'm not a psycho so nevermind.

(also never try and help service staff by clearing or cleaning up yourself as you'll probably just make more of a mess or gently caress it up in some way)

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


I always love that "No he didn't."

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

CGI Stardust posted:

something similar happening to his keyboard wouldn't go amiss either
Something like this


but cats are too pure for him so a big crab or something.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




Communist Thoughts posted:

can some comrade repost the mashup of bojos weird speech and the thick of it stuff, please?

https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1194558449239109632

e: well that was fuckin late

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Holy gently caress that's so so good. One of the best rhetorical performances I've seen in ages. Demolishes every right wing talking point in under two minutes.

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Amazing .

I know it's edited to remove his (no doubt asinine) responses, but seriously what the gently caress is wrong with him. Does he always just spend entire interviews sweatily gurning and licking his chops while making soft little grunts every few seconds? Is that the IDW version of praxis?

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