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Popping in to ask this as someone who has recently bought, assembled and painted a few 40k models but has no idea about the gameplay side of things: I’m interested in the new Sisters of Battle box, but a few of the breakdowns I’ve seen feature people saying they hope to be able to get one before supplies run out. I assume they mean the initial run before more are produced, right? Also, as someone who’d have zero use for the codex, cards, dice, etc, can it be expected to see all of those models released separately somewhere down the line?
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Nov 14, 2019 14:53
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The boxes are limited run (for now) which is why GW are urging people to preorder early on Saturday. They might possibly release the monopose models in a start collecting box down the line, but they also might not. So for now, if you really 100% want the new models you'll also be getting the codex, cards and dice.
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Nov 14, 2019 15:05
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Ellaybee posted:Popping in to ask this as someone who has recently bought, assembled and painted a few 40k models but has no idea about the gameplay side of things: I’m interested in the new Sisters of Battle box, but a few of the breakdowns I’ve seen feature people saying they hope to be able to get one before supplies run out. I assume they mean the initial run before more are produced, right? This is a one-off box made to re-launch Sisters as an army. The models are monopose (like the Dark Imperium / Shadowspear sets) which means they can only be assembled one way and share sprues with each other. It's a way of: a) Giving people a cheaper way to start the army by getting core units a bit cheaper than they would be if bought separately b) Let's people get a headstart assembling / painting these units over Xmas before the rest come out c) Guaranteeing sales for GW because limited sets usually sell out Early next year all of these units (and the codex) will be released separately as full multi-part kits, most of which will have multiple unit / wargear options. If you're only interested in painting a few of these models, you may be better of waiting as with this set you're paying a premium for a codex & cards you won't use. Of course there may be some interested folks who would buy them off you to offset the cost.
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Nov 14, 2019 15:05
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Yeah just buy Sisters in Jan/Feb when the main release comes out. These models will almost definitely form some or all of Start Collecting: Sisters of Battle on the lines of the Shadowspear models, too.
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Nov 14, 2019 15:15
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xtothez posted:The shelf behind me has 30 terminators and two land raiders quietly awaiting the day when GW will Make Deathwing Great Again* Incredibly same. 
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Nov 14, 2019 15:25
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Kitchner posted:After all my worrying about getting my kill team models looking nice on time and having a half decent list I'm going to miss it because I have to fly to Ireland for four weeks with work. Try get over to Dublin, good few places to grab a game if you can. Hell there might even be a few in Limerick.
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Nov 14, 2019 15:46
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Hell there might even be a few in Limerick. There once was a goon who had work so to Ireland flew he with a smirk Though his kill team sat bored a chance gamestore restored his joy dredged back up from the murk
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Nov 14, 2019 16:20
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DandyLion posted:There once was a goon who had work That's cute.
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Nov 14, 2019 16:43
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:Pyou might need to do some work if you wanted to use different chest fronts (which still look separate in the multi part kits). The chest sizes are different between standard marines and Primaris. I've seen swaps done but it is a ton of green stuff to fill out the difference, to the point where sculpting the emblems may be easier depending on what you're trying to do.
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Nov 14, 2019 17:32
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/14/battle-sisters-on-the-battlefield-part-2gw-homepage-post-1/ Second Sisters rules preview is up.  https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/14/chaos-space-marines-why-you-need-faith-furygw-homepage-post-4/ So is the CSM preview for Faith & Fury.
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Nov 14, 2019 17:56
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+12" and +1D to multimeltas in a unit for 2CP, yowza, that's one way to make them relevant.
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Nov 14, 2019 18:06
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I really really want to make a centurion with dorns head. Anyone else?
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Nov 14, 2019 18:14
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That seems like a really strong SoB trait depending on how miracle dice pan out. The +1 to hit thing seems good but I think it might end up in practice like the necron reanimating protocol situation... where the enemy just focus fires down one unit at a time.
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Nov 14, 2019 18:14
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I like those stratagems for Word Bearers, Night Lords, and Alpha Legion. Gorefather is nuts.
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Nov 14, 2019 18:17
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Do we know if we're getting more new chaos models in this besides the sorcerer?
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Nov 14, 2019 18:17
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:That seems like a really strong SoB trait depending on how miracle dice pan out. The reroll miracle dice relic really seems like an auto take.
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Nov 14, 2019 18:20
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Tiger Millionaire posted:+12" and +1D to multimeltas in a unit for 2CP, yowza, that's one way to make them relevant. Does it? That seems like a lot of command points to buff, what, like 4? Tops? Multimeltas
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Nov 14, 2019 18:22
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Clawtopsy posted:Does it? That seems like a lot of command points to buff, what, like 4? Tops? Multimeltas Unless they dramatically decrease the cost of multimeltas and/or increase the cost of exorcists I really don't see it being worth 2CP
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Nov 14, 2019 18:31
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goose willis posted:Do we know if we're getting more new chaos models in this besides the sorcerer? If we were I think they would have made mention of it already. The focus on this release is all SOB.
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Nov 14, 2019 18:38
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Playing deathguard status: bummed
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Nov 14, 2019 18:42
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TheChirurgeon asked me to write some words about my little mans and, despite writing far too many, has kindly published an army showcase article here. This one's about my Death Guard:  
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Nov 14, 2019 18:46
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Giant Isopod posted:Unless they dramatically decrease the cost of multimeltas and/or increase the cost of exorcists I really don't see it being worth 2CP I was going to say it might be more valuable for the Flamer component, but then I saw you had to do it at the start of the Phase. Imagine blowing 2CP to reroll your Heavy Flamer wounds, then rolling low on the amount of hits...
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Nov 14, 2019 19:07
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Giant Isopod posted:Unless they dramatically decrease the cost of multimeltas and/or increase the cost of exorcists I really don't see it being worth 2CP Yeah. It’s weird though because I feel like it would be too good if it only cost 1 cp.
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Nov 14, 2019 19:43
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I like that they took the time to make all the Canonesses look old. Shows a nice attention to detail.
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Nov 14, 2019 19:43
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Yeah. It’s weird though because I feel like it would be too good if it only cost 1 cp. If the multimelta part of the strat were its own thing, it would be fairly costed at 1cp imo
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Nov 14, 2019 20:07
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I do not actually get to play often so this may be a dumb question but: without giving CSM updated légion traits + doctrine équivalents will they just be loyalist marines but worse?
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Nov 14, 2019 20:11
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fashionly snort posted:If the multimelta part of the strat were its own thing, it would be fairly costed at 1cp imo It is effectively its own thing though - this is really 3 stratagems because in practice you aren't going to see mixed weapon retributor squads. I guess you could mix heavy bolters and multimeltas, and have the range bonus put them at the same 36" range?
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Nov 14, 2019 20:11
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fashionly snort posted:I do not actually get to play often so this may be a dumb question but: without giving CSM updated légion traits + doctrine équivalents will they just be loyalist marines but worse? A guy I know put it this way: why make the bad guys a challange when your trying to sell new models of the good guys? Csm are 40ks new jobbers it seems. Thankfully chaos soup is still strong. Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Nov 14, 2019 20:15
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adamantium|wang posted:TheChirurgeon asked me to write some words about my little mans and, despite writing far too many, has kindly published an army showcase article here. This one's about my Death Guard: It's a very pretty army and deserved to be seen. thanks for writing that!
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Nov 14, 2019 20:19
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fashionly snort posted:loyalist marines but worse Welcome to chaos buddy
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Nov 14, 2019 20:21
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goose willis posted:Welcome to chaos buddy Rolling with wrestling terminology, it such a pity as even the heel has to win some time, even if its to build the tension until the faces victory. Chaos were really shaping up to be just that, now GW just wants them to be jobbers.
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Nov 14, 2019 20:28
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ANAmal.net posted:Incredibly same. Ooooh, nice.
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Nov 14, 2019 20:31
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The last time chaos was on equal footing with the loyalists (or even slightly more powerful) was third edition 
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Nov 14, 2019 20:34
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goose willis posted:The last time chaos was on equal footing with the loyalists (or even slightly more powerful) was third edition
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Nov 14, 2019 20:35
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Hmm, i was convinced that multimeltas were heavy 2, but them being heavy 1 makes the strat weaker. Im hoping for a mobile weapons platform with a bunch of multimeltas on it with the new toys
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Nov 14, 2019 20:37
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I haven't played in a few editions but multi meltas always seemed like the weakest Imperial heavy weapon after they lost their absurd wound multiplier from back in 2nd edition.
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Nov 14, 2019 20:57
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Melta generally has been massively overcosted in this edition. Maybe they’ll do something about it in the next CA but I doubt it.
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Nov 14, 2019 21:06
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fashionly snort posted:giving CSM updated légion traits + doctrine équivalents will they just be loyalist marines but worse? You think they're getting all those super OP bonuses for free? Expect vanilla CSM to go up to 16-17 pts a model. As far as I can tell is CSM are supposed to be equivalent cost to SM units that are a tier in power below them.
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Nov 14, 2019 21:06
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fashionly snort posted:I do not actually get to play often so this may be a dumb question but: without giving CSM updated légion traits + doctrine équivalents will they just be loyalist marines but worse? CSM can still take daemon allies and not lose their biggest buffs, which isn't exactly a small bonus since lots of daemons are really good.
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Am I the only one who thinks that new Alpha Legion sabotage strat is going to be amazing? A better than even chance that your opponent's vehicle explodes any time you want is going to be great for wrecking castles and causing all sorts of mayhem.
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