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I think the xenomorphs are somewhat semi-sentient when isolated like on the Nostromo or Sevastopol away from a queen, but are in a hive mind when in the presence of a queen(s) and therefor smarter. The queens are most likely near sentient, but their use of consciousness is to protect the eggs at all costs. There was a comic where a general learned a rudimentary way of communication with a queen, I guess you could compare it to a dog or a monkey but I think the speed of learning pointed to some intelligence. Here's a vid about the comic if anyone wants to see Sadly because the internet ruins everything, in my dives for the deviantart thread, there are people who sexualize aliens in the same manner as sparkle dogs. I can't decided if it's not at all surprising given the psycho sexual imagery of Giger's work, or completely bananas since it's such a cutesy furry sexuality. I'm not it's all sexual but, yeah.
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 06:16 |
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Linux Pirate posted:Sadly because the internet ruins everything, in my dives for the deviantart thread, there are people who sexualize aliens in the same manner as sparkle dogs. I can't decided if it's not at all surprising given the psycho sexual imagery of Giger's work, or completely bananas since it's such a cutesy furry sexuality. I'm not it's all sexual but, yeah. Huh? I don't see anything weird.
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The Zombie Guy posted:Anyway I think I've put way more thought into this than some of the script writers.
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 06:36 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:That's as intelligent as bugs are. Self preservation is what just about every living thing has and is why they continue to exist. Even bacteria. I prefer this as well. They're dangerous enough already. If they could operate weapons/computers/ships/etc. they'd be unstoppable. But ... what about Hudson: "How can they cut the power, man? They're just animals!"
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 06:47 |
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Lossy Compression posted:I prefer this as well. They're dangerous enough already. If they could operate weapons/computers/ships/etc. they'd be unstoppable. Giant space bugs crawling around in maintenance spaces without knowing what they are is bound to cause problems for the maintenance man on his next shift. It was an unhappy accident
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 06:52 |
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The Zombie Guy posted:One of the books goes way into the xenos as soldiers bit. Can't remember which novel it was, but the gist was (spoilered just in case) an army guy captures a Queen, and uses her to control the drones. By threatening to burn up the Queen's eggs, the Queen is pacified, and the drones are somewhat domesticated. It gets to the point where he spraypaints unit numbers on the drones in preparation for warfare. IIRC, as the first battle is about to begin, the Queen goes "nah, we're done now", and dude gets splattered. Sounds like Nightmare Asylum.
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 07:10 |
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All this talk about sexualized Xenos and I can't help but imagine the surprise your Xeno girlfriend would give you when you ask her to eat your rear end out.
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 07:17 |
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 07:23 |
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eat the asscid
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 07:40 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Huh? I don't see anything weird. hrrgnh engineer im trying to sneak around but im dummy thicc and the clap from my rear end cheeks keeps alerting the humans
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 08:25 |
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Shbobdb posted:What if the alien and Geordi became "special" friends in a "special" episode? This thread was a lot cooler before you showed up. (turn on yuor mobtir!)
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 09:28 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Huh? I don't see anything weird. i don't remember this action figure growing up
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 09:36 |
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You'd really need to stay away from her at that time of the month. "AITA reddit? My girlfriend keeps throwing her used tampons in the regular trash can and dissolving it instead of using the acid-proof one I bought for her. She says I need to stop nagging, but it's costing me a fortune!"
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 09:37 |
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Shbobdb posted:That's fair. I just never really saw the jockey as a kid and LOL if you think the aliens didn't kill him before he could land. Why would he land? To get the gently caress off the ship with a bunch of murder aliens It didn't work out
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 09:48 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Well now I want to see a bunch of xenomorphs in Star Trek uniforms being all polite to each other and stuff. In the series of short films that were released recently, one was about an artifical person who got stuck on a spaceship alone with an alien who didn't have any reason to kill her, and the shenanigans they get into together.
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 13:18 |
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Sunswipe posted:You'd really need to stay away from her at that time of the month. "AITA reddit? My girlfriend keeps throwing her used tampons in the regular trash can and dissolving it instead of using the acid-proof one I bought for her. She says I need to stop nagging, but it's costing me a fortune!" Gross dude I chuckled at this
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 14:35 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Huh? I don't see anything weird. Yass Queen!
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Oscar Wild posted:
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 19:13 |
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Linux Pirate posted:Oh god I remember that, I thought that was pretty cheesy imo. Not the home world part, but their natural predators. They looked vaguely like a cross between freddy freaker and a trandoshan that walked on all fours, and had cream of mushroom soup colored skin.
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 19:44 |
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evobatman posted:In the series of short films that were released recently, one was about an artifical person who got stuck on a spaceship alone with an alien who didn't have any reason to kill her, and the shenanigans they get into together. Holy Hell, I thought that was the best one! gently caress David, ole girl-bot feels for her little facehugger buddy. Divorced from, and abandoned by, humanity both. What is the synthetic human to think?
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 21:46 |
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Link it please!
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# ? Nov 14, 2019 22:22 |
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Holy poo poo, I entirely forgot about that little IGN 40th anniversary series! Here's the one mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGWEihrIBvk Non-spoilers: The Science Officer on a WY vessel (which was abandoned by the remaining human crew after... circumstances) makes a friend. Pissed Ape Sexist fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Thank you!
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evobatman posted:In the series of short films that were released recently, one was about an artifical person who got stuck on a spaceship alone with an alien who didn't have any reason to kill her, and the shenanigans they get into together. Still not as bad as what happened to Doctor Church in the comic series.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 00:28 |
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Splicer posted:Even if the xenomorphs were the top dog on their home planet the other things on the planet probably evolved resistances and defences alongside them. So maybe the prey species' immune systems can usually kill off the implanted embryo or it takes years to develop or it bursts out in a non-fatal manner. It's only something from outside that arms race where they go from facehugged to chestburstered in 24 hours, with the exponential growth that implies. That's a good point. Their home world could be filled with a bunch of hardcore critters. I personally still like to think they're engineered bioweapons though. I like the idea of the jockeys designing an organism so deadly they accidentally wiped themselves out.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 00:55 |
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happyhippy posted:Still not as bad as what happened to Doctor Church in the comic series. Yeah but he was a fatuous rah-rah boy, and I couldn't hate him enough.
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Splicer posted:Even if the xenomorphs were the top dog on their home planet the other things on the planet probably evolved resistances and defences alongside them. So maybe the prey species' immune systems can usually kill off the implanted embryo or it takes years to develop or it bursts out in a non-fatal manner. It's only something from outside that arms race where they go from facehugged to chestburstered in 24 hours, with the exponential growth that implies. Nah Bro, Swimbots taught me only the strong survive. Seriously though, this is an interesting theory. That would have to some badass organism due to how devastating Xenos are as a parasite. They lay waste pretty quick. Any organism that could evolve defenses would be just as terrifying. Like you stated, they would have to evolve to combat the implanting. They would also have to be pretty fearsome fighters to survive given how dangerous the Xeno is. They wouldn't necessarily have to overpower the Xenos, just withstand them.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 02:44 |
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Linux Pirate posted:That's a good point. Their home world could be filled with a bunch of hardcore critters. That's basically Prometheus and Covenant.
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Beef Thief posted:Nah Bro, Swimbots taught me only the strong survive. Acid proof turtles.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:That's basically Prometheus and Covenant. Oh I meant it more like they were manufactured hundreds of millions of years ago by elephant alien astronauts, and not by handsome Squidward playing with black goo along with Leonardo De David cultivating little xenos and playing the flute. It's basically just my dumb, nit picky nerd dream.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 04:22 |
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I don't mind the idea of xenomorphs being a result of bioengineering. I do mind the way this theory is meted out in Prometheus and Alien: Covenant.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 07:40 |
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Until Prometheus and Alien Covenant I thought the xenomorphs were something that the Predators cultivated and hunted for the hell of it because of the AvP movies and comics, but I don't recall thinking of them having gone through bio-engineering. I pictured it more like dog domestication except starting at wolves and going even more feral and vicious instead of tame and playful.
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Android Apocalypse posted:I do mind the way this theory is meted out in Prometheus and Alien: Covenant.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 08:41 |
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God, Covenant was such a loving embarrassment. It took me a couple viewings of Prometheus to get what people were saying about its flaws, but I could tell Covenant was hot garbage like 20 minutes in. Someone needs to hit Ridley Scott over the head and take the Alien franchise away from him before he does more damage.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 08:54 |
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Mister Speaker posted:God, Covenant was such a loving embarrassment. It took me a couple viewings of Prometheus to get what people were saying about its flaws, but I could tell Covenant was hot garbage like 20 minutes in. That's just the thing though isn't it? Alien should never have been a franchise. The first movie works very well on its own as a self-contained horror film, Aliens also being really good is mostly just down to how well it took the same basic ingredients and instead made it into a very different movie (which also mostly stands on its own).
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frogge posted:Until Prometheus and Alien Covenant I thought the xenomorphs were something that the Predators cultivated and hunted for the hell of it because of the AvP movies and comics, but I don't recall thinking of them having gone through bio-engineering. I pictured it more like dog domestication except starting at wolves and going even more feral and vicious instead of tame and playful. Yeah, I also had the pet theory that the Xenos were made by the predators for the predators to hunt and not just planted. The way they change based on what they incubate would make for an interesting quarry too.
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Linux Pirate posted:That's a good point. Their home world could be filled with a bunch of hardcore critters. Beef Thief posted:Nah Bro, Swimbots taught me only the strong survive.
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I don't like the idea that anyone or anything had a hand in the xeno's creation. Just plain ol' evolution. With AvP I'd like to think that the predators just captured the Aliens and used them for game. The aliens are so terrible and perfect killing machines that nothing can contain them. Yeah, someone could have designed them that way and they just got out of hand and escaped but that just doesn't do it for me. I want to believe that they are their own species that evolved all of the defenses like acid blood.
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# ? Nov 15, 2019 20:12 |
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Finally finished up reading this megathread. Really great stuff, well worth my time. I've ordered Aliens: Cold Forge and Aliens: Platinum Edition because of this thread, but that didn't sate my hunger. I found a free comic website and have been reading through the Aliens: Omnibuses (skipping what's in Platinum), and god drat Xenomrph was on point with the Labyrinth recommendation. The Backsplash (?) story that goes into it is also fantastic. Currently going through Omnibus 4 and found this super cursed future timeline:
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