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Atrocious Joe posted:Have an incredibly blessed tweet by the way we stan a king
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Mischievous Mink posted:Wobbuffet kept insisting there were tons of them and she had videos, but wouldn't you believe it she never posted a single one. I guess if she did have any videos the swastikas looked too unbecoming. so in my own research im seeing lots of very tight shots of small groups of protesters in santa cruz which i understand to be the home base of the right wing, which tells me that no, there was not really a popular uprising until the military stepped in
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iirc the protests were significant, but not massive from what i saw you can't actually do a coup entirely without some popular mandate, and especially in the bigger cities the right does have real popular support
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V. Illych L. posted:iirc the protests were significant, but not massive from what i saw i mean, sure in the sense that unite the right is "some popular mandate" for a fascist coup in the united states as well
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Al! posted:western journalists keep repeating that there were massive popular protests just before the coup but 1) were there really? i havent seen any photographic evidence and 2) if there were, were they any larger than the massive nationwide protests after trump was elected There were some protests in Santa Cruz, which is an opposition stronghold. Naturally the media took footage from that and claimed it represented the entire country.
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Nov 14, 2019 18:06
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in which the police just spontaneously joined in out of the well known love for freedom and protesters known to exist among pigs
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Al! posted:i mean, sure in the sense that unite the right is "some popular mandate" for a fascist coup in the united states as well there is genuine popular support for right wing policy in the US tho, in the sense that millions of people really are right wing and could be persuaded to support a right wing political coup or military takeover. They’re not the majority of the populace, but they’re also disproportionately influential and covered favorably due to the demographics at play. it’s not unreasonable to suspect similar conditions would exist in other nominally democratic settler-colonial states.
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that's what i said though
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Lightning Knight posted:there is genuine popular support for right wing policy in the US tho, in the sense that millions of people really are right wing and could be persuaded to support a right wing political coup or military takeover. They’re not the majority of the populace, but they’re also disproportionately influential and covered favorably due to the demographics at play. it's also kinda like if you took footage of one of the women's marches after Trump's inauguration and said "look see this shows there's a popular uprising against president trump that justifies the military removing him from power", completely ignoring the massive social base for right-wing policy in the us and the fact that he won the election based on the established electoral rules and legal institutions
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Nov 14, 2019 18:20
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Al! posted:that's what i said though o ok sorry vyelkin posted:it's also kinda like if you took footage of one of the women's marches after Trump's inauguration and said "look see this shows there's a popular uprising against president trump that justifies the military removing him from power", completely ignoring the massive social base for right-wing policy in the us and the fact that he won the election based on the established electoral rules and legal institutions I would agree with this except if you want to talk about ~*legitimacy*~ in democratic elections, Trump is a much less legitimate president than Morales because Morales pretty clearly won the popular vote and Trump lost the popular vote and won because of our dumb system written by slave owners.
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Nov 14, 2019 18:23
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maduro has more popular support than trump, and the military too lol
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Al! posted:maduro has more popular support than trump, and the military too lol that makes him smart
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yeah be careful how you throw around “popular” support. you shouldn’t consider anything popular if it isn’t supported by at least a plurality.
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Atrocious Joe posted:Have an incredibly blessed tweet by the way As the good Dr. King once said: "Playboy vagabundo tem mais é que tomar soco na cara" (Might be a paraphrased quote)
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Atrocious Joe posted:The 7 people at the Grayzone are better at finding out stuff about Bolivia than the entire New York Times. this picture is just... it's so perfect
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Truga posted:the only thing google knows about me is that i'm from eastern europe because unless i need maps specifically (which are bad on duckduckgo) i never use it and block all their lovely 3rd party content/cookies etc, so it's kinda funny Fair enough  I live in the immigrant neighborhood of a northern european city and if I open Youtube with a blank slate it recommends mostly Bollywood and Pakistani pop music.
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Al! posted:western journalists keep repeating that there were massive popular protests just before the coup but 1) were there really? i havent seen any photographic evidence and 2) if there were, were they any larger than the massive nationwide protests after trump was elected i mean it shouldnt really be surprising since the nyt et al do the same poo poo to massive domestic protests they're uncomfortable with also like every coup in latin america (e.g. pinochet's coup of allende) has protests of some kind which the media then points to as justification for a military coup. american media never applies the absurd standards they apply to latin american countries to western countries. comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 19:11 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Lightning Knight posted:o ok sorry  there was no popular votetrump and the voters and the non-voters themselves would have had a different campaign strategy if it was popular vote. it's not trump's fault that hillary and her campaign was exceptionally stupid and grossly misallocated resources for an electoral college race
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Nov 14, 2019 19:10
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lmao if the Chileans get Pinera to resign they're gonna call it a coup
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comedyblissoption posted:trump is reviled and the electoral college is stupid, but stop saying he didn't win the popular vote the western press would absolutely use one south american candidate receiving a million more votes as justifying a coup regardless of the electoral system that country uses, as long as that candidate was right wing
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yeah you're right i mean the rule is that there's literally no excuse that the media won't use to justify a rightwing coup. they're going to try the strongest misframed parliamentary arguments they can use, but at the end of the day they can just point to a weakass opposition protest as proof enough for any military coup and the liberals will eat it up
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Civilized Fishbot posted:I'd love to see how trying that kung-fu kick worked out for him Didn't stand a chance against his opponent's impressive Snapdragon style.
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phew, nothing to worry about anymore. the UN is on the case!!!! https://twitter.com/antonioguterres/status/1195043158234714117
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Cops in Chile are just locking up kids during the protests https://twitter.com/AlinaDuarte_/status/1195046975747559425 In Bolivia it seems like people are still protesting From El Alto, nextdoor to La Paz. My Bellingcat-style investigation of wikipedia says its a city with an overwhelmingly indigenous population. https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1195045390497783809 https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1195049057263276032 Not sure where these videos are from https://twitter.com/rolandoteleSUR/status/1195037264063160320?s=20
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THS posted:from James Dahl, on the radio war nerd facebook group. he’s pretty knowledgeable, wish he’d cite sources tho Tennis Court Oath time 
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The US Congress has a new group to fight for Democracy in Venezuela, featuring everyone's favorite representative, Debbie Wasserman Schultz https://twitter.com/carlosvecchio/status/1194724953943347202?s=20 Medea Benjamin of Code Pink got threatened with arrest at her home for disrupting this event https://twitter.com/codepink/status/1195008535593209856?s=20 this guy heckled wannabe Venezuelan ambassador Carlos Vecchio at the event and was accused of "abusing the Venezeulan American community" https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/status/1195033575332175874 seems like DC police are still bitter over the whole Venezuelan Embassy protection struggle
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Atrocious Joe posted:The US Congress has a new group to fight for Democracy in Venezuela, featuring everyone's favorite representative, Debbie Wasserman Schultz The second failure here in Brazil probably brought back memories.
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Jose posted:lmao i had no idea fnox had been streaming himself playing games showing everything he said was full of poo poo what was he streaming nevermind found it lmao Sing Along has issued a correction as of 20:57 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Sing Along posted:what was he streaming I was just repeating a claim I saw in dnd so lol if you've found it
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/399098178?filter=highlights&sort=time he was advertising it in the LP forum at the same time he was posting about the brutal repression of the maduro regime
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sleeptalker posted:Had to lol at NPR today when they called Añez declaring herself president a "bold move". NPR 8 "The Ocho"
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