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LibCrusher
Jan 6, 2019

by Fluffdaddy

Floppychop posted:

I wonder what the percentage of boxes sold are just going to scalpers.

Probably a good amount, but it does seem like GW underestimated the demand.

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Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

LibCrusher posted:

Probably a good amount, but it does seem like GW underestimated the demand.

Hard to believe considering people have been waiting 2 decades for plastic sisters and they've been hyping the release for 2 years.

Though I heard a good theory that they might have intentionally shorted this run but made enough to make their Q4 goals for the shareholders. Then potentially another run in Q1 of 2020 to frontload that and give a buffer for stuff like specialist games.

MinistryofLard
Mar 22, 2013


Goblin babies did nothing wrong.


Harvey Mantaco posted:

Would a release like this include death guard stuff or it's that too much it's own thing?

Death Guard and Thousand Sons already have had, on paper, the things the new Chapters or the chaos Marines in Faith and Fury got - their own codexes got a separate set of relics, warlord traits, psychic discipline and stratagems.

It's just that while Chapter Legions got those in addition to all the other poo poo in their 2.0 codex, and regular Chaos gets those in addition to their own bonuses and an extensive codex (even though they apparently can't pick and choose a legion trait), that's all non codex chapters, 1K Sons and Death Guard get, in addition to not getting most of the codex.

I don't know how you'd fix it though without just killing everything that distinguishes them from their "parent" army. A new psychic discipline for Thousand Sons would be nice though, since being the only army with access to three used to be their thing. Now the Imperial Fists have as many psychic powers as the supposedly most powerful psykers in the galaxy.

It's kind of a moot point for 1K sons since GW has built them around being a soup army but Death Guard are meant to be the core of the force.

MinistryofLard fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Nov 16, 2019

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Floppychop posted:

Hard to believe considering people have been waiting 2 decades for plastic sisters and they've been hyping the release for 2 years.

Though I heard a good theory that they might have intentionally shorted this run but made enough to make their Q4 goals for the shareholders. Then potentially another run in Q1 of 2020 to frontload that and give a buffer for stuff like specialist games.

GW's financial reporting year is June-May so that makes no sense at all.

queef anxiety
Mar 4, 2009

yeah

Floppychop posted:

I wonder what the percentage of boxes sold are just going to scalpers.






:capitalism:

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice
I expect most of the scalpers to be disappointed considering the actual main release of sisters is coming in a couple of months time.

LibCrusher
Jan 6, 2019

by Fluffdaddy

Floppychop posted:

Hard to believe considering people have been waiting 2 decades for plastic sisters and they've been hyping the release for 2 years.

Though I heard a good theory that they might have intentionally shorted this run but made enough to make their Q4 goals for the shareholders. Then potentially another run in Q1 of 2020 to frontload that and give a buffer for stuff like specialist games.

Are financial quarters different in Britain? Here in freedomville it’s been 2020 for a month, as far as businesses and balance sheets are concerned

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Honestly from what they teased of the boxed kits coming up I'm more hyped about those sculpts than in this box.

I'm a little surprised they didn't just do a print on demand preorder for it.

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man

Groetgaffel posted:

The GW page melted after less than ten minutes. When it came back up they were all out.

Judging by order number and confirmation email time stamps GW sold the boxes in excess of 100 per second.

Yeah I think our order numbers were about 20k apart in the few minutes between me posting it and then you. I got to the payment page at 9:59 by the time PayPal redirected back at 10:01 the site was hosed.

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

LibCrusher posted:

Are financial quarters different in Britain? Here in freedomville it’s been 2020 for a month, as far as businesses and balance sheets are concerned

In the UK you can have whatever financial year you want.

A lot of companies have a financial year from April - March because that's the tax year and it makes things simple. However plenty of other companies run January to December.

The only time you expect to see a significant deviation is basically if there's some sort of big event that your finances are organised around. Like if membership renewals for a membership organisation are in June, their financial year is probably June to May.

Why GW does this I have no loving clue. It makes things pretty complex for them because HMRC won't give a gently caress what their reporting year is and will calculate tax based on April to March, so they need a team also calculating that, and their biggest sales period is mid way through their financial year, which means if you're short of targets everyone will panic, and if you're above target everyone will relax.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Floppychop posted:

Hard to believe considering people have been waiting 2 decades for plastic sisters and they've been hyping the release for 2 years.

Though I heard a good theory that they might have intentionally shorted this run but made enough to make their Q4 goals for the shareholders. Then potentially another run in Q1 of 2020 to frontload that and give a buffer for stuff like specialist games.

This would make sense if every single pre-order wasn't like this. GW just does it this way, because pre-orders are not used in any way to change production numbers.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I'm guessing they'll also whoops accidentally discovered a cache in the warehouse aound Christmas, too.

I ordered through a local indie store, I just hope I don't get burned shopping local.

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Strobe posted:

I would be very happy if I can run a Blood Angels all-Dreads army headed by a Chief Librarian Dreadnought and a Chaplain Dread with two litanies. That would own.

Chaplain Dreadnoughts don't have the Chaplain keyword, their keyword is Chaplain Dreadnought.

The FAQ gave them litanies, but I don't think they can use strats designated for Chaplain keyword. Happy to be corrected if I'm reading that incorrectly.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord
A unit of Reivers and some rebasing of Devastators done. Onto some Inceptors so I can suffer through new flying bases.


tomdidiot
Apr 23, 2014

Stupid Grognard
I'm so glad my FLGS decided to do a reservation ticket thing. if you were a regular, you could sign up to their mailing list to get a one reserved for you. Still gave us a 10% discount too off GW RRP. There's a good reason I keep going back there. (That and good old nepotism becuase the owner went to the same Uni as me)

Pastry Mistakes
Apr 6, 2009

Preface: I don't play 40k as of yet but my friend and I have been collecting way too much in an attempt to get into kill team. We already have a huge mechanicum, tyranid, ork, and death guard collection, I've got some Thousand Sons Fractal Blades, as well as pretty much all the models from Necromunda (still haven't played that either!) and a few other things.

But right now I'd like to make some sexy Iron Warriors and I think I have my first simple kit bash down:

  • The new Chaos Havoc sculpts
  • Forgeworld Iron Hands heads (art always shows the M 2 or 3 helms, so why bother with their Iron Warriors ones?)
  • Grabbing one Iron Warriors pauldron so I can make a mold of the skull on it and place it on one shoulder pad of each havoc. The default shoulder looks bigger and I like the design more so I don't want to completely swap them out.
I wish I could use the mk 2 crusade armor but I like the new scale size much more than the older ones.

I'm not sure what to do for backpacks or other bits to hang off them though and would love recommendations.
Any mechanicum pieces I should throw in the mix?



Eventually I would like to play a real 40k game with them, so I picked up Feirros and have a Praevian on the way so I can also use the mechanicus units I already have as well to fill out the army. I guess I should have thought of this before, but can I use a Praevian as intended in 8th edition?

The Dregs
Dec 29, 2005

MY TREEEEEEEE!
Finally finished assembling all the necrons and orks that Beer4theBeerGod sent my son and me. My lift hand has a thin, probably permanent, coat of super glue. Pretty sure the kid owes me some kind of dad award for this (and Beer4theBeerGod as well).

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
Where do the Word Bearers stand as a subfaction here in the leadup to PA 2? Either within CSM/Chaos, or in the game overall? Are they terrible, do they have good points?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

1994 Toyota Celica posted:

Where do the Word Bearers stand as a subfaction here in the leadup to PA 2? Either within CSM/Chaos, or in the game overall? Are they terrible, do they have good points?

They're pretty drat bad, no benefit can really make up for that absolutely dogshit legion trait.

Legendary Ptarmigan
Sep 21, 2007

Need a light?

PierreTheMime posted:

A unit of Reivers and some rebasing of Devastators done. Onto some Inceptors so I can suffer through new flying bases.

Don't do it! If you cut one (or both) legs almost flush with the groin plate and parallel to it (cutting beneath the thigh plate and keeping it attached to the upper pelvic area to hide most of the work from above), you can rotate the legs into more upright positions. This way you can avoid both the "ice skating on rubble" look of unmodified ones that some people do or the bumble-marine, difficult to attach flying stands.

My squads are only primed but I can take a photo if you (or anyone else) is interested.

Cricken_Nigfops
Oct 25, 2011

CROM!

Legendary Ptarmigan posted:

Don't do it! If you cut one (or both) legs almost flush with the groin plate and parallel to it (cutting beneath the thigh plate and keeping it attached to the upper pelvic area to hide most of the work from above), you can rotate the legs into more upright positions. This way you can avoid both the "ice skating on rubble" look of unmodified ones that some people do or the bumble-marine, difficult to attach flying stands.

My squads are only primed but I can take a photo if you (or anyone else) is interested.

Yeah please do, I have some Inceptors that I finished for my deathwatch, but I'd like to see what else is possible.

Legendary Ptarmigan
Sep 21, 2007

Need a light?
Okay, Inceptor story time.

When building the squad, I wanted to a) not use any of the flying stands and b) modify their weapons loadout as I don't like the akimbo pistol look. I like the style of 30k breacher squads and the Ultramarine Invictarus Suzerain models, with the pistols incorporated into their shields, so I sought out some 3d printed bits that would work. The shields come from Popgoesthemonkey on Shapeways. I will be adding a chapter icon or the Fast Attack cross to the shields after painting. Note that the group has two Dark Imperium models and three from the MPP kit. I did want to have some motion to the squad but avoid the full "ice-skating" look.

Here is the group (nevermind that the guy on the left is primed differently):



The three models shown below are from the multipart kit. The left and right models' legs are unmodified, while the center model has undergone the operation on the model's right leg. If you've seen the multipart kit finished according to the instructions, this is the model in full "bumble-mode" with both legs splayed very far forward. If you were to try and attach this model straight to the base, both guns would point towards the ground, and it looks terrible - I played around with this and decided not to build a rubble pile for him to be crashing into, choosing instead to modify one of the legs. I think this pose successfully implies the model is in the process of taking off and scooting backwards while firing forwards.



These two are the sergeant (left) and one of the squadmates (right) from Dark Imperium. Their legs have not been modified.



:siren: Bonus content!

Here is my primed and washed smash captain conversion, using the second DI squadmate model as a base. The thunder hammer is once again from Popgoesthemonkey, while the shield is from another Shapeways seller, martilloycola. The two bits of bling on his belt come from the IF Primaris upgrade sprue, and the winged skull is from the Assault Marine box. I kinda wanted to go with a full back banner for this guy, but that would have been just a little too over the top for me. Of note, this model has had his left leg reposed.



Here are close-ups showing how I made the two cuts needed to free the leg:



If you use good quality snips you can rotate the leg against the pelvis and end up with a pretty tight seam on both sides after the shift, dressing it up with minimal greenstuff; I chose to obscure the front of the join with the aforementioned bling and just kinda ignore the back one as it sits underneath the leg, invisible from above on the tabletop.

For some alternative posing ideas using the DI models, I'd refer you to SRM.

Legendary Ptarmigan fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Nov 16, 2019

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice
Unfortunately Inceptors just look silly and no amount of fiddling will make them look believable. Sad.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender
If you want all the details on Chaos in the new Faith and Fury book without having to worry about sitting through a 30-minute youtube video or giving a fascist page views, well Coda, Wings and I have you covered:
https://www.goonhammer.com/psychic-awakening-ii-faith-and-fury-review-part-1-chaos/

We'll have Space marines and Black Templar in parts 2 and 3 this weekend.

The Dregs
Dec 29, 2005

MY TREEEEEEEE!

Wow. I have never seen these guys before. Are they...wearing kangaroo shoes?


JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!

Booley posted:

40kstats.com shows the top 4 lists for most major tournaments. There's nothing that can aggregate more than that given the wide range of list submission formats.

Thank you friend

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


The Dregs posted:

Wow. I have never seen these guys before. Are they...wearing kangaroo shoes?




I always figured they were basically long fall boots

https://theportalwiki.com/wiki/Long_Fall_Boots

SO that marines using jump packs can hit the ground without turning legs to jelly.

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
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The Dregs posted:

Wow. I have never seen these guys before. Are they...wearing kangaroo shoes?




I prefer to think of them as wearing those jump boots from the live action Super Mario Bros. movie.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

ordered the sisters box because i'm weak willed. also i hate painting black and robes :thunk:

For_Great_Justice
Apr 21, 2010

JUST CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE GAMES WORKSHOP!

TheChirurgeon posted:

If you want all the details on Chaos in the new Faith and Fury book without having to worry about sitting through a 30-minute youtube video or giving a fascist page views, well Coda, Wings and I have you covered:
https://www.goonhammer.com/psychic-awakening-ii-faith-and-fury-review-part-1-chaos/

We'll have Space marines and Black Templar in parts 2 and 3 this weekend.

This is the lord's work.

Emp children an Night lords got a ton of stuff to toy around with. If nothing else if gives me a reason to make a jump lord with a sword and even a sorcerer with one over a stick.

Legendary Ptarmigan
Sep 21, 2007

Need a light?

Booyah- posted:

ordered the sisters box because i'm weak willed. also i hate painting black and robes :thunk:

Good news! You could paint either silver/grey or red and still have a canonical scheme. You're outta luck with the robes though.

I impulsively bought it too and will be taking the grey option.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

The Dregs posted:

Finally finished assembling all the necrons and orks that Beer4theBeerGod sent my son and me. My lift hand has a thin, probably permanent, coat of super glue. Pretty sure the kid owes me some kind of dad award for this (and Beer4theBeerGod as well).



Glad to see them together!

Cricken_Nigfops
Oct 25, 2011

CROM!
Thanks Ptarm, they look good! My guys I just did with the flying bases so basing them is challenging.

Cricken_Nigfops fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Nov 16, 2019

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Bought it as well. I think I'm going with white armor which is kind of a pain to paint but I like the look.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Legendary Ptarmigan posted:

Good news! You could paint either silver/grey or red and still have a canonical scheme. You're outta luck with the robes though.

I impulsively bought it too and will be taking the grey option.

I'm actually thinking bone armor with red robes maybe?

Giant Isopod
Jan 30, 2010

Bathynomus giganteus
Yams Fan
Tired of looking at all the awesome new sisters models? Why not take a break and look at some old crappy ones!

I completed my self imposed challenge to paint every one I had before the new sisters release date. This is an army that has technically been in progress for over a decade (not really though, I just bought a bunch and picked up spare ebay lots for a few years while playing WHFB and didn't start seriously painting anything until about a couple years ago)

Now I can, instead of making progress on the other army starters collecting dust under my desk, begin painting a second copy of the exact same army in 2 weeks, but at least I can do it guilt free and with a sense of completion.


(embiggen)

Approx 3,000 pts if configured as shown

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Radish posted:

Bought it as well. I think I'm going with white armor which is kind of a pain to paint but I like the look.

Apothecary White CONTAST works pretty well on Sisters for that. This is over wraithbone:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Nice I'll have to write that down so I remember in two+ weeks.

Legendary Ptarmigan
Sep 21, 2007

Need a light?

Booyah- posted:

I'm actually thinking bone armor with red robes maybe?

These are the six named Orders, but any combination of black, red, white/bone, grey/silver, or even gold will not look out of place.



If you use the transfers, GW seems to be placing them on the corners of robes on the studio models. There's a couple that would look fine over red and you could just adopt the symbol for your "successor order," or just call them a local variant color scheme:

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Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Radish posted:

Nice I'll have to write that down so I remember in two+ weeks.
I've done a little bit of normal highlighting with pure white on the sharpest edges. Most notably on the exhaust pipes for the jetpack, top of the knee pad, stuff like that. But the armour is still 90% Apothecary White straight out the pot slapped on wraithbone primer. The thigh plate on one side ended up just a little mottled, but it easy enough to avoid that by not letting it pool too much.

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