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Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Conspiracy theories?!?

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

MizPiz posted:

Hot take: The left's insistence that they should never embrace conspiracy theories does far more harm than good

Parenti's got you covered

quote:

Whenever you ascribe conscious intent and pursuit of self interest at the top, you will hear someone say: ‘What are you, a conspiracy theorist?’ You can say farmers consciously organize to pursue their interests and everybody will say ‘Uh huh, farmers are organized.’ You can say machinists or auto workers are organizing and everybody will say ‘Uh huh, they’re consciously organizing and pursuing their own interests,’ or school teachers, and other people. But if you say the people who own most of America and most of the world – if you say they consciously organize and pursue things to get what they want, then you hear people say ‘Oh, you have a Conspiracy theory? You think they really do that?’

The alternative to a conspiracy theory is an Innocence theory. That is, they do all of this stuff but they’re not pursuing self interest. They just do it, you know. The other alternative is a Somnambulist theory. Somnambulism is the tendency to walk in your sleep. David Rockefeller gets up in the morning and says, ‘What am I going to do, to advance and protect my interests? No, no, that would be conspiratorial.’ Another alternative would be Coincidence theory: it’s just coincidence that this happened. A variation of coincidence theory is Uncanny theory. Then there’s Stupidity theory and Incompetence theory. There’s also Stochastic theory. It means everything happening by random… there’s really no causality, as such. Stuff just happens. History is just these eventualities that tumble down on top of each other.
from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ofKI8QFWY

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

MizPiz posted:

Hot take: The left's insistence that they should never embrace conspiracy theories does far more harm than good

Conspiracy is legit boring, I don't get the draw. Just read economics instead

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
What I'm getting at is that the left needs to stop treating "we can never truly know" as some defeatist mantra and embrace it as a creative license

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
we can never know who is complicit, which is why every millionaire and billionaire and property owner will be sent to the Yukon logging camp to produce artisanal hand crafted planks and beams in a sustainable fashion

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Larry Parrish posted:

we can never know who is complicit, which is why every millionaire and billionaire and property owner will be sent to the Yukon logging camp to produce artisanal hand crafted planks and beams in a sustainable fashion

cool, it's about time that we invaded canadia and claimed that land to make alaska contiguous with the lower 48

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

cool, it's about time that we invaded canadia and claimed that land to make alaska contiguous with the lower 48

Our Brave Boys Keep the Peace in Newly Annexed Canada

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

StashAugustine posted:

Our Brave Boys Keep the Peace in Newly Annexed Canada

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Larry Parrish posted:

we can never know who is complicit, which is why every millionaire and billionaire and property owner will be sent to the Yukon logging camp to produce artisanal hand crafted planks and beams in a sustainable fashion

please do not let them seem the part with their double-headed axes and plaid cloth, whistling as they chop trees that fall on them and that they then push off of them

I prefer an accordion-style death

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
imagine jeff bezos being sent to do labor in a salmon farm and having to get an RSI from gutting salmon 8 hours a day. would be epic.

im sure they have machines for that but whatever

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

decent Citations Needed, fun to hear Adam try his best to not start ranting about dumb anarchists

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
he has a stronger will than I

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


StashAugustine posted:

Our Brave Boys Keep the Peace in Newly Annexed Canada

Canada? Oh you mean greater vermont

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
As much as I love Bryan Quinby, my podcast dad, I'm insanely mad that he tricked me into listening to Deftones! I got swept up in their enthusiasm but this poo poo loving sucks!

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer
at least you didn't do something really regrettable like listen to Mancow

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crane Fist posted:

As much as I love Bryan Quinby, my podcast dad, I'm insanely mad that he tricked me into listening to Deftones! I got swept up in their enthusiasm but this poo poo loving sucks!

Its one of those bands you had to be in your 20s in the 90s to appreciate I think. My mom loves them, and I think it's the lamest poo poo ever. Incubus is alright but it's a similar situation.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Richard Wolff rips out the jugular of Whole Foods CEO:

https://youtu.be/ROT2HjxovsE

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Richard Wolff rips out the jugular of Whole Foods CEO:

https://youtu.be/ROT2HjxovsE

the joker movie is upsetting disaffected white men against the rich! - washington post tomorrow

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Richard Wolff rips out the jugular of Whole Foods CEO:

https://youtu.be/ROT2HjxovsE

can you tell us when the good poo poo is, it's nearly an hour and a half

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Larry Parrish posted:

Its one of those bands you had to be in your 20s in the 90s to appreciate I think. My mom loves them, and I think it's the lamest poo poo ever. Incubus is alright but it's a similar situation.

Their enthusiasm really is infectious, they make that poo poo sound so good and then you listen to it and it's like are we talking about the same album here?

I missed the nu metal zeitgeist by being born too late some of it still holds up! Just not deftones, who are trash

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
lol at these completely wrong opinions, although their slow songs are bad and they weren’t actually good til White Pony

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Autism Sneaks posted:

can you tell us when the good poo poo is, it's nearly an hour and a half

At 53:45 to 56:25 you see food man get upset, then wolffman takes a hearty bite, and it is clear the capitalists are out of real arguments when the noble entrepreneur pridefully unsheathes his brilliance for all to see.

Other bits have somewhat newer material. Listen to it at work or something.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crane Fist posted:

Their enthusiasm really is infectious, they make that poo poo sound so good and then you listen to it and it's like are we talking about the same album here?

I missed the nu metal zeitgeist by being born too late some of it still holds up! Just not deftones, who are trash

i even listen to limp bizkit occasionally but deftones is one of those that I havent heard since like 2003 and dont miss lol

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
There are two nu metal bands that actually still hold up: one minute silence and spineshank. This is verifiable data!

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

Crane Fist posted:

As much as I love Bryan Quinby, my podcast dad, I'm insanely mad that he tricked me into listening to Deftones! I got swept up in their enthusiasm but this poo poo loving sucks!

I have some news for you

Bryan has very bad taste in music, just like a regular dad

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Crane Fist posted:

There are two nu metal bands that actually still hold up: one minute silence and spineshank. This is verifiable data!

I like System of a Down

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

*sigh* free homex

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

all metal is garbage

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Victory Position posted:

I like System of a Down

its great anti cop music.

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer

T-man posted:

all metal is garbage

lots of it is, lots of it isn't, and lots of it is good while being garbage

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
metal is the anime of music

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Victory Position posted:

I like System of a Down

I'm 90% certain Serj Tankian is a Berniebro

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

metal is the anime of music

someone strap Felix into a chair and make him listen to a bunch of crossover thrash

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

T-man posted:

all metal is garbage

shut the gently caress up liberal

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxR1xluLvAs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ODNxy3YOPU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrRx_EpHy5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNa0IbYff-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG4p5U0WI-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sdsiUaDi6k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py2fG-NgfkA

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Taintrunner posted:

shut the gently caress up liberal

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

T-man posted:

all metal is garbage

eat my rear end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zS8mX9J03Y

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

metal is the anime of music

you're like ten thousand years old, so I forgive you

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
I dunno music. Does MGR Revengeance's music count as metal, rock, or something else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iz2sfBKVwI

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Trabandiumium
Feb 20, 2010

jrock

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