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twistedmentat posted:I feel like both Black Panther 2 and Captain Marvel 2 are further on than we think, and we'll probably see them annouced sometime around the time when Doctor Strange 2 has at least a teaser. Black Panther 2 got a release date at D23. If it were up to me I'd put the Captain Marvel 2 announcement at the end of the Ms. Marvel series.
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The Wonder Woman upskirt is in the early trailers though so don’t worry, that’s preserved in the Snyder cut.
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Nov 18, 2019 14:13
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What is with people's laser focus on that, it's a piece of fabric. It's not lascivious or titillating or anywhere close to the focus of the shot
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Nov 18, 2019 14:37
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John Wick of Dogs posted:What is with people's laser focus on that, it's a piece of fabric. It's not lascivious or titillating or anywhere close to the focus of the shot Snyder fans like to use it as evidence of Whedon ruining the movie for some reason. The guy who made Sucker Punch would never do something like that.
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Nov 18, 2019 15:03
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No they don't
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Nov 18, 2019 15:12
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McCloud posted:Of the top of my head: Most of that wouldn't have saved the movie, and I doubt Synder's version of certain characters would have been an improvement.
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Nov 18, 2019 18:30
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The fans really want that hour's worth of sequel hooks for Darkseid that will never come to anything, huh
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Nov 18, 2019 21:13
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There's probably a lot of crossover between incels and the snydercut bros.
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Nov 18, 2019 21:15
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I assume the Wonder Woman Darkseid scene was her finding a teaser trailer like how Batman watched the Justice League teasers in BVS
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Nov 18, 2019 21:20
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Rhyno posted:There's probably a lot of crossover between incels and the snydercut bros. Based on what?
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Nov 18, 2019 21:40
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Laughing Zealot posted:Based on what? My dislike of both groups is enough for me to assume they are all horrible.
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Nov 18, 2019 21:44
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Rhyno posted:There's probably a lot of crossover between incels and the snydercut bros. Rhyno posted:My dislike of both groups is enough for me to assume they are all horrible. Is this the new Joker/incel/comic book movie overreaction?
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Nov 18, 2019 22:06
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AngryBooch posted:Is this the new Joker/incel/comic book movie overreaction? It is pretty well documented that a direct line from 300 fanboys to MRAs/PUAs to incels occurred
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Nov 18, 2019 22:16
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Roth posted:I assume the Wonder Woman Darkseid scene was her finding a teaser trailer like how Batman watched the Justice League teasers in BVS Wonder Woman watches a QuickTime video of Darkseid that Lex put together complete with cool logo.
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Nov 18, 2019 22:26
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Mr Hootington posted:It is pretty well documented that a direct line from 300 fanboys to MRAs/PUAs to incels occurred Snyder and his 8 children are the patron saints of celibacy.
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Nov 18, 2019 22:38
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I don't know how much real overlap there is, but the connection generally goes from Snyder rulez -> MCU sux -> Captain Marvel sux -> omg diversity, all those womyn etc etc
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Nov 18, 2019 22:40
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Snyder bros also use all the same harassment tactics on social media, and if you click any of their timelines they're always full of alt right bullshit they love.
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Nov 18, 2019 22:43
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I’d be more surprised if there wasn’t a huge overlap, that fanbase is toxic as gently caress.
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Nov 18, 2019 22:44
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McCloud posted:Of the top of my head: Didn't the colors in some shots get changed a ton as well? (I want to say at least in a scene with the Batmobile towards the end)
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Nov 18, 2019 22:49
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Spacebump posted:Didn't the colors in some shots get changed a ton as well? (I want to say at least in a scene with the Batmobile towards the end) I think a lot of nighttime scenes got reworked to not be as dark. The final encounter was mostly blue and gray in the first trailers and was redone to look like an inferno instead. The fight between the Justice League and Superman was originally supposed to take place at night as well, and was regraded entirely to make it look like daytime instead. I think that's why it looks so awkward and cheap in the final film.
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Nov 18, 2019 22:54
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Alan Moore has not lost a step: https://twitter.com/kylepinion/status/1196434894047633408?s=21
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Nov 18, 2019 23:04
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Dan Didio posted:Alan Moore has not lost a step: He should make a comic book movie about this.
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Nov 18, 2019 23:07
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Dan Didio posted:Alan Moore has not lost a step: I can't really argue about any of that.
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Nov 18, 2019 23:07
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That can't be Alan Moore, there's no rape scene.
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Nov 18, 2019 23:10
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ImpAtom posted:I can't really argue about any of that. Yeah, I was ready to roll my eyes about it, but he’s pretty much hit it right on.
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Nov 18, 2019 23:16
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Yeah okay I'm actually gonna go ahead and argue against characters like Superman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, Hulk, etc -- a bunch of characters made by a bunch of Jews and at least one slightly-confused-but-well-meaning-feminist -- as being outsourced from the Ku Klux Klan, thanks.
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Nov 18, 2019 23:24
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I feel like you can maybe get a more insightful answer to "why are all these power fantasies for the powerless popular with adults these days" than "clearly they're all racist babies", even if quite a lot of them really are racist babies eg. Snyder Cut
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Nov 18, 2019 23:33
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I feel like I really shouldn’t have to say this, but no, enjoying the occasional comic book movie isn’t a moral failing. We’re all out here trying our best to get by, taking care of our business as best we all can, and that’s what makes us adults, not whatever harmless escapist fantasy we indulge in from time to time.
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Nov 18, 2019 23:41
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I find that moore post interesting in that "the correct critique was right there and he missed it" kinda way in that he identifies some symptoms of being a millennial and attacks the audience members on those points while failing to acknowledge (or ignoring) the systemic societal issues that have caused millennials to behave in such a way. Like, instead of making a comment on how capitalism has shaped our generation in a way that is conducive to this state of movie making hes just complaining that we're all kids that refuse to grow up
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Nov 18, 2019 23:44
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Right sure whatever but have you considered that, unless you're indulging in some truly mature entertainment content about like, murder or rape or possibly murder and rape at the same time, then you might as well literally be a Klansman and should like just grow up? (I'm being...a little?...hyperbolic. This isn't really the worst take I've ever heard, not even in this last week. I'm just not looking forward to the deluge of usual online suspects going "WOO YEA MOORE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS! HE'S WITH US! AMEN!" and so forth)
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Nov 18, 2019 23:57
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The media really should stop asking people who loudly announce their unwillingness to watch comic book movies and read comics to give their opinion on recent comic book movies and comics.
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site posted:I find that moore post interesting in that "the correct critique was right there and he missed it" kinda way in that he identifies some symptoms of being a millennial and attacks the audience members on those points while failing to acknowledge (or ignoring) the systemic societal issues that have caused millennials to behave in such a way. Like, instead of making a comment on how capitalism has shaped our generation in a way that is conducive to this state of movie making hes just complaining that we're all kids that refuse to grow up I don’t think Moore sees them as seperate. Fangz posted:The media really should stop asking people who loudly announce their unwillingness to watch comic book movies and read comics to give their opinion on recent comic book movies and comics. You think only people that like things should be allowed a platform to talk about them?
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Dan Didio posted:You think only people that like things should be allowed a platform to talk about them? I think only people who actually experienced a thing have interesting things to say about them. Agree with Moore, Sorcese etc all you wish, but all these takes look like someone went into Cinema Discussio and copy pasted a few forum posts. At least with Cinema Discussio you'd actually feel like they watched some of those movies and can cite examples and make detailed arguments if you press them. EDIT: Whenever these things come up I just wonder what it'd be like if I was in a room with them and could ask them "well what about this film" or "what about this comic" or "what about that character arc" and just watch their blank faced expressions if they can't just regurgitate boilerplate stances absorbed via cultural osmosis. Fangz fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Narratives about strong heroes committing righteous violence for the sake of justice or whatever has been a thing since forever. It wasn't invented with superheroes. And yes, you sure can make arguments about these escapist fantasies having toxic elements, and how they are infantile in their own way, but to say it's a modern phenomenon and that the obsession with super-heroes is materially different from the obsession with the muscle-bound action heroes from the eighties, or the a-typical lawmen of the Westerns, or even back further until you hit pulp heroes and greek mythology is a little off-base.
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site posted:I find that moore post interesting in that "the correct critique was right there and he missed it" kinda way in that he identifies some symptoms of being a millennial and attacks the audience members on those points while failing to acknowledge (or ignoring) the systemic societal issues that have caused millennials to behave in such a way. Like, instead of making a comment on how capitalism has shaped our generation in a way that is conducive to this state of movie making hes just complaining that we're all kids that refuse to grow up this he's real close to something but it sounds like he blames millenials for being millenials trust me, I would god drat love to feel like a real adult and not depend on various forms of escapism to distract myself while I donate plasma for ramen money I can think about the various medical issues slowly killing me I can't afford to fix, or I can think about power rangers and pro wrestling and spider-man Marvel and DC are feeding a demand that didn't spring up overnight in a vacuum, even if the way they exploit it can also be pretty hosed up and he's not inherently wrong about that part
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Nov 19, 2019 00:35
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Like, now I’m genuinely curious what Alan Moore thinks “being an adult” even is.
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Nov 19, 2019 00:38
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Phylodox posted:Like, now I’m genuinely curious what Alan Moore thinks “being an adult” even is. Live in a cave, be a wizard.
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Nov 19, 2019 00:40
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Wait, Martian Manhunter was gonna be in Justice League? I thought they weren't making a movie for sad virgins.
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Phylodox posted:I feel like I really shouldn’t have to say this, but no, enjoying the occasional comic book movie isn’t a moral failing. We’re all out here trying our best to get by, taking care of our business as best we all can, and that’s what makes us adults, not whatever harmless escapist fantasy we indulge in from time to time. I mean it's a moral failing in that we're supporting capitalism and the ever-oncoming death of humanity instead of spending the millions of dollars spent to make a Marvel movie on something productive or helpful. We just also have no ability to influence things so, hey, might as well enjoy the time we have.
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Jamesman posted:Wait, Martian Manhunter was gonna be in Justice League? I thought they weren't making a movie for sad virgins.
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