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KoRMaK posted:I bet the defenses are actually way cheaper than the bill, and the money goes to something else. Those giant things we see all over the place probably do something else than just detect (or actually manufacturer) squid falls. So, in a way, it's very inline with modern republicans in regard to SPENDING FOR DEFENSE AND MILITARY - FEAR Kidneys?
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Chev posted:It has been established in the comic Veidt has a good track record with bullets, maybe his captor took that to heart Yeah- “this guy can predict anything and is a master manipulator, so it’s impossible to get the drop on him. He even outsmarted Dr Manhattan, who can literally see the future. gently caress it, let’s teleport him to Jupiter” EDIT: oh gently caress me he’s in orbit around (Sally) Jupiter
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Nov 19, 2019 00:29
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Chev posted:It has been established in the comic Veidt has a good track record with bullets, maybe his captor took that to heart Speaking of, these panels are begging to become a meme. I love Adrian's smug face in the third panel: 
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Nov 19, 2019 00:31
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Darko posted:That would also include things like suits and how fights are visualized (basing things off of superhero movies released to that point like the Batman movies) and visualizations of what a tech billionare genius ubermensch like Viedt would look and act like. writing a reboot where Veidt hangs out with Joe Rogan and pretends to smoke weed and Rorshach forgets Moloch's name after a big bowl of chili Forceholy posted:I got a lot of Vince McMahon vibes from Veidt's speech this episode. IT WAS ME, AUSTIN! 35 MINUTES AGO!
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Nov 19, 2019 00:39
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KoRMaK posted:
It's a simplified rorschach. He used to sign his notes with a similar thing.
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Nov 19, 2019 01:12
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Tenzarin posted:Its kinda dumb he has to use a catapult to escape when he could just walk for a long distance and be outside. Gotta get over that treeline.
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Nov 19, 2019 01:25
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SaviourX posted:18 years and several rereads after first reading the book and I finally notice the drat smiley face. What smiley face?
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Nov 19, 2019 01:34
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Milo and POTUS posted:What smiley face? The tunnel opening and the bike looks kinda like the yellow smiley face that is the "logo" of the series.
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Nov 19, 2019 01:52
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So, is the squid rain a thing that Veidt started in the 80’s to keep appearances up, or is the government using his science to continue the squid rain? Also am I misremembering or were there multiple giant squids? I thought Veidt sent the squids to multiple nations in order for the fear of invasion to bring the whole world together, rather than just the US? I haven’t read the comic in around 10 years, mind.
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Nov 19, 2019 02:21
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Lava Lamp Goddess posted:So, is the squid rain a thing that Veidt started in the 80’s to keep appearances up, or is the government using his science to continue the squid rain? Nah you're conflating the bombs or whatever in the movie with the squid. The bombs in the movie went to multiple cities. Squid only went to NYC
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Nov 19, 2019 02:27
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Unkempt posted:It's a simplified rorschach. He used to sign his notes with a similar thing. It does look suspiciously like Rorschach's signature in Watchmen but I feel like it must be a pair of kidneys in reference to organ harvesting, hence the repeat of the word "harvest."
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Lava Lamp Goddess posted:So, is the squid rain a thing that Veidt started in the 80’s to keep appearances up, or is the government using his science to continue the squid rain? That’s probably one of the things he had to work with Redford with, now that I think of it. The pamphlet in peteypedia says the squid falls are worldwide so there has to be quite a bit of infrastructure involved.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:That’s probably one of the things he had to work with Redford with, now that I think of it. The pamphlet in peteypedia says the squid falls are worldwide so there has to be quite a bit of infrastructure involved. There’s a big vat somewhere in Antarctica where they run the squid cloning operation. Mini squid are them teleported into the upper atmosphere above the target city. Very minimal staff or it’s all automated. We know that both mass cloning and teleporters are available tech.
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Didnt catch it the first time but the couple said "hiking through central park without seeing another person for HOOOUURS" Paints a dimmer picture than I thought. I wonder what city center to the place of NYC. It's funny that that one poster thought Mirror Guy was watching super hero porn, because HBO shows have long be mistaken for porn with slightly better story lines The dialog during that scene with hooded justice and metropolis was atrocious The in shot title was never shown front facing. It was only shown backwards.... mirrored Is sugar banned too???! Wtf is this Mormon hell Viedt created Ep had musiy from stuegill Simpson in it which is a great pick imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpDYfkymaSE 7kal's multi monitor studio felt like an aesthetic echo at first but whenever this show does that it actually turns out to be relevant later. So, is that where they are going to watch the impact of their plan when they drop it, like Viedt did? The careless whisper this ep was Angela talking in front of the cactus KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Nov 19, 2019 04:07
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Any of you who haven't read the comics, just go watch the motion comic already its super good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLdqKIj3-A0
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Colonel Whitey posted:Speaking of, these panels are begging to become a meme. I love Adrian's smug face in the third panel: 
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Apologize if it's been discussed but why did Veidt need to be catapulted out of his prison cloud when he can just walk back in?
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Midgetskydiver posted:Apologize if it's been discussed but why did Veidt need to be catapulted out of his prison cloud when he can just walk back in? who says he can just walk back in? he could have been dragged over a big wall with that rope he had attached. we dont know. so dont act like you know if you didnt see for sure capisce?
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Nov 19, 2019 06:25
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ymgve posted:Kidneys?
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:How? All the plotters were murdered by Veidt. He even killed his butlers to cover absolutely everything. I mean the protagonists of Watchmen would have put two and two together by the time they were at Antartica, he didn't just tell them willy nilly, but rather to explain his motive
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Imagine the road trip to Antarctica to gently caress up your old friend... with Rorschach You think they talked at length about the plan and dissected like some TVIV nerds or do you think they just silently "hrmmm"ed the whole time. Was there music? Does the owl shop have auto pilot? Woulda taken hours. Does it have a bathroom? Just poo poo out a cargo bay?
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:There were production delays and issues shipped late- people would have been bitching about that. When people dug up evidence that plenty of people did yell at them, the argument shifts to, "well aren't you glad they didn't listen to you and let it take as long as it had to take to put together such a great book?" Which is valid, though the delays on Watchmen amounted to a twelve issue monthly series taking about thirteen months to come out. A couple of issues slipped on the production schedule by a couple of weeks, and there was an extra month gap between issues nine and ten (there was no issue in March 1987) so it's kind of rich to use this as a defense for books that are delayed for months or years. quote:I don’t think that many people at the time were aware that Moore and Gibbons reworking of the Charlton Action Heroes that nobody liked would have such a satisfying payoff. In terms of comics press, Amazing Heroes dedicated their cover to Watchmen before the first issue debuted, calling it the most anticipated book of the year and described the preview they received as "a milieu containing an unprecedented depth of background for American comics." Both the interviews appearing advance of the book from Moore and Gibbons and the critics/interviewers' comments were setting expectations sky-high for the book. quote:The text supplements exist because DC had trouble selling ad space for their Blue Space Penis book. They had to fill it with something. quote:Wein’s major contribution to the project was the suggestion of the extra story material at the end of each issue. “We really couldn’t sell those books to the advertisers, so we found ourselves with an extra eight or nine pages to fill that were going to be filled with ads,” he explained. “Initially, they said we’d fill it with house ads and a longer letter column.” Wein felt that approach would not be fair to anyone who wrote in during the last four issues of the run, as the production on those books would be complete before the letters arrived at DC. “Since we have these pages to fill, we can fill them with something that helps gives you back-story.” Not a lot of this makes sense unless it was very early discussions, every issue of Watchmen is a 32 page comic book with zero ads and somewhere between 26 (#1) and 32 (#12) pages of comic story, with the remaining 0-6 pages filled with the clippings/book excerpts/etc. Both Moore in 1986 and Wein in 2009 discuss the idea of having a letter column and later scrapping said idea, but by the time it was in production Watchmen was already a deluxe-printing direct sales only comic that was retailing for $1.50 an issue, and they'd done ad-free 'prestige' comics for sales in comics shops pretty consistently for a couple of years, be it reprints of Swamp Thing/New Gods/Green Lantern & Green Arrow, or original series like Howard Chaykin's The Shadow or Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. I can believe that they thought they'd run a couple pages of letter columns/interviews with Moore/Gibbons or sketchbooks or whatever in the back instead of "in-universe" stuff, but if they're producing 26-28 pages of comics for a book with 32 pages (the average comic book would have 19-22 story pages at the time) they were never planning on running ads once the comic went into production. In interviews given mid-production of the comic, Moore and Gibbons describe putting together the back matter because they thought it would be cooler than self-congratulatory interviews or boring developmental sketches or whatever would be there otherwise. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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KoRMaK posted:who says he can just walk back in? he could have been dragged over a big wall with that rope he had attached. we dont know. so dont act like you know if you didnt see for sure He disappears being pulled backward and immediately reappears in the woods, also being pulled backward. If you want to posit a giant invisible wall in between the instant cut go ahead, but if it's tall enough that he couldn't climb it, it's also tall enough that it would severely injure him if he gets pulled over it. I'll never understand why people get so defensive about these things.
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Midgetskydiver posted:He disappears being pulled backward and immediately reappears in the woods, also being pulled backward. If you want to posit a giant invisible wall in between the instant cut go ahead, but if it's tall enough that he couldn't climb it, it's also tall enough that it would severely injure him if he gets pulled over it. It's a bummer they this story isn't actually canon, because Moore was so burned by DC. Kind of a Rorschach style reaction really
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Midgetskydiver posted:I'll never understand why people get so defensive about these things. cuz im worried about Wade, thats why. what did you think??
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I unwisely got pretty high before watching this last one. Wow this show is a wild loving ride. I can't tell whether I like it 100% of the time, but it sure is swinging for the loving fences. The melodrama of "Seven years of bad luck..." on top of the dark gritty cover of Careless Whisper was laid on maybe a little too thick for me but everything leading up to the video was enthralling and that intro was just so loving insane. Wade's trapping of Sister Night was sad but I can see how he would think his hand was forced. I'll be sad if he's dead, but I'm also prepared for him to be killed after an episode that goes so deep with him.
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KoRMaK posted:Imagine the road trip to Antarctica to gently caress up your old friend... with Rorschach We never once see Rorschach take a poo poo in the comics.
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Milo and POTUS posted:We never once see Rorschach take a poo poo in the comics. Pretty sloppy writing If you ask me.
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Milo and POTUS posted:We never once see Rorschach take a poo poo in the comics. Something something 35 minutes ago.
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KoRMaK posted:When did he climb it? Never saw him climb it. More the reverse really, Moore got creepy about kids after he was burned.
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Milo and POTUS posted:We never once see Rorschach take a poo poo in the comics. he used the toilet to dispose of human waste in prison!!!
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I have no clue what's happening next in this show and I like it.
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 Found this on reddit.
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Milo and POTUS posted:We never once see Rorschach take a poo poo in the comics. Toilet in prison was clogged. EDIT: Beaten like a knot top Nieuw Amsterdam fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Edge & Christian posted:This is true. People did bitch about it in contemporary discussions, and comics creators have pointed to these delays for the past 30+ years as a hand-waving "well you're mad my book is late, would you have yelled at Moore and Gibbons?" This is a top-notch post. What were sales on Watchmen? Not X-Men level I assume, but where on the continuum was it?
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:This is a top-notch post. What were sales on Watchmen? Not X-Men level I assume, but where on the continuum was it? It’s hard to say for sure, but this article talks about it with some good detail: https://www.comichron.com/faq/watchmensales.html
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Zaphod42 posted:And then they even end up having a dialogue about how he was there on 11-whatever so did we really need it to be so spelled out? Yeah it's almost like they think the viewing public consists of a bunch of dummys that struggle to remember, I don't know, say, important dates they've been beaten over the head with.
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How am I supposed to remember little details like who a character is when I'm looking at my phone for half the episode?
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KoRMaK posted:Imagine the road trip to Antarctica to gently caress up your old friend... with Rorschach I've thought about this more than I should over the years. Are there slide out bunks or anything? A kitchenette? Even if Archie moves at the speed of a jet, which it doesn't really seem to, it's like a 20 hour flight.
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