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VideoGameVet posted:Our inner-cities are literally food deserts where the only stuff available is processed crap. Also, the worst of it is highly subsidized, so eating right costs more. Finally, people are working longer hours and don't have the time to cook for themselves.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Political staffers are universally petty social-climbing emotional infants so I have absolutely no trouble believing either side of this dumb story. Gee, who am I going to believe--a bunch of former Obama staffers or Drunky The Press Secretary, whose job seems to be going on Fox News and lying for her boss (and who has never, not once, done the traditional Press Secretary job of briefing the press? Yeah, I know who I believe.
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ImpAtom posted:In ideal circumstance yes. In actuality a huge amount of obesity issues involve poor access to health food, lack of time and money to prepare healthy meals, poor education about what is actually healthy (combined with lovely misleading info about what is healthy) and depression and untreated mental issues can make it difficult to eat well even in good circumstances Yeah, I dealt exactly with this. Healthy food is expensive and filling. Unhealthy, processed food is cheap and is often designed to make you consume more. On top of that, most people don't have time to exercise. Being fat isn't a lifestyle. It's a byproduct of our lovely times. And that's on top of terrible education about how to eat. Not being fat is more of a choice than being fat imho. Fat is the default due to how our society is structured. A salad will help fill up your stomach, but many people literally can't afford food that doesn't have calories in it and don't think about why a salad can be unhealthy when they're dousing it in ranch. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:If you mean this by giving people access to information to make their own choices sure. if you men this by banning large sodas, no thanks. The race/class/education/economics/policy/public health side of why people eat what they do or why they are/aren’t healthy is a lot more complicated than just giving people access to information. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Yeah, I know who I believe.
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The fact that the GOP can't make traction on any of their defensive talking points is something to see. Usually they are in lock step and leading the media around by the nose, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
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Nov 19, 2019 20:58
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Stop before you summon fishmech you fool! fishmech doesn't post around here no more, man
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Nov 19, 2019 21:00
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Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? And why do Conservatives think that is a slam dunk to discredit anyone?
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oxsnard posted:The Democrats say "bribery" a handful of times and then Republicans repeat it endlessly. It seems like bad strategy imo They were much better at this stuff in the past, this is a really bad strategy for them. You can't negate a frame by saying it. Every time anyone hears the word bribery it makes them think of what Trump did as a bribe. If you say "it's not bribery" all that people's subconscious hears is "it's bribery" I haven't decided whether the PR specialists have lost control of the narrative and the Trumpers are just doing whatever they each individually think is best or if the PR specialists have just said "gently caress you" and quit doing their dirty work for them until they get rid of the poo poo stain. It's a good thing either way.
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Kaboobi posted:fishmech doesn't post around here no more, man 
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Kaboobi posted:fishmech doesn't post around here no more, man
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Popete posted:Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? And why do Conservatives think that is a slam dunk to discredit anyone? Republican who dislikes Trump but not enough to do anything about it.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:The fact that the GOP can't make traction on any of their defensive talking points is something to see. Usually they are in lock step and leading the media around by the nose, but that doesn't seem to be happening. The big problem is that President Trump is not beholden to their actions and will (and has) scuttle their best excuses with singular statements and/or tweets, putting them in exceptionally awkward positions wherein they either blame themselves for what happened or go directly against him. It's a headache that none of them want to deal with, so it's difficult for any would-be defenders to get any traction. After all, what happens to all of them if the President says something to the contrary?
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Popete posted:Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? And why do Conservatives think that is a slam dunk to discredit anyone? I think it's someone (usually right-leaning) who never wanted Trump / was a "anyone but Trump." It's basically just trying to discredit them on the basis they were biased against him from the get go. e: But yeah, it usually comes with some great deal of impotence/non resistance, as Fool of Sound suggested
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Popete posted:Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? And why do Conservatives think that is a slam dunk to discredit anyone? It's a made up term similar to "Trump Derangement Syndrome" but for conservatives. It implies the only reason you could have to not like Trump is some wierd complex where you hate him for no reason at all.
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Popete posted:Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? And why do Conservatives think that is a slam dunk to discredit anyone? It morphed from "'well disciplined and moral conservative' (lol) who does not want to vote for Donald Trump" to "anyone who doesn't like Donald Trump."
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Popete posted:Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? And why do Conservatives think that is a slam dunk to discredit anyone? They're people who normally voted Republican but jumped ship when Trump became the nominee. It's a slur very closely related to the older RINO, Republican In Name Only, for centrist Rs.
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Jaxyon posted:It's a made up term similar to "Trump Derangement Syndrome" but for conservatives. it wasn't made up, marco rubio declared he was a never trumper during the primary then he declared he meant he would never vote for trump in the primary that rubio himself was running in rubio's example is roughly on point for all other never trumpers
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Popete posted:Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? They are somehow the saddest losers in a world where Qanon people exist.
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Popete posted:Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? And why do Conservatives think that is a slam dunk to discredit anyone? Never Trumper is a (self-given?) term by certain GOP politicians, media figures, etc. who were allegedly against Donald Trump getting the nomination and being President. In reality most of these "Never Trumpers" were fine with all his policies, just not him saying the quiet parts so loud you could hear them echo off the mountains. The tactic of course being to frame people as "never trumpers" is a way to say "they were always against the president and therefore their testimony is biased". Same as with Jim Jordan/Devin Nunes/Chris Stewart having increasingly rambling conspiracy theories about how the Democrats have been trying to impeach Donald Trump since before he even became President. Unable to attack the substance of the accusations, they instead seek to impugn the character of those making the accusations.
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https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1196847827441405952 https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1196862930056298496 https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1196851329127370752 https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1196865744153255936 https://twitter.com/FullCatHouse/status/762652959750619136
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Popete posted:Ok I'm finally gonna ask. But what the hell is a Never Trumper? And why do Conservatives think that is a slam dunk to discredit anyone? Jeb Bros.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:They are eating their own and it is delicious I love how Matt and dan do believe the same poo poo but they hate that quiet part is said out loud and also that they are called the bad names of the people they hate. Also I love that Kirk is getting thrown under the bus.
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Jesus. She's a way better person than I am and she's 100% right.
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The 30%ers completely buy into the 'dumb insulting note' and 'ripped the B off the keyboard' (or whatever it was back in the day) stories because they are themselves spiteful shits who could easily see themselves doing that :itsalwaysprojection:
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Jesus. She's a way better person than I am and she's 100% right. Now now, I'm sure you're capable of recognising the Armenian genocide
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https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1196874085118173185 this headline 
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https://twitter.com/AthertonKD/status/1196788897033797634 I was making this argument on here last night and no one responded but yeah, as much as people here were mocking the slogan, it worked.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Now now, I'm sure you're capable of recognising the Armenian genocide (Which she does.)
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Trabisnikof posted:(Which she does.) quote:10/29/2019 - Affirming the United States record on the Armenian Genocide - Did Not Vote Ah, yes
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Failed Imagineer posted:Ah, yes That's definitely not something that I would have done or agree with her doing, but I don't think that it diminishes how inspirational her belief in restorative justice is.
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https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1196888920740581377 "the evidence you have collected has refreshed my recollection about the crimes i forgot about"
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Dammerung posted:That's definitely not something that I would have done or agree with her doing, but I don't think that it diminishes how inspirational her belief in restorative justice is. Also, the entire thing was litigated to death in this thread weeks ago and it turns out there's a lot to unpack with her opinion but FI super wanted to get in and make a sick burn, so here we are.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Ah, yes now post her remarks on the vote instead of using vote records to push an out of context point
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Bottom Liner posted:now post her remarks on the vote instead of using vote records to push an out of context point her remarks on the vote were not exactly helpful and reinforce the point he made
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Also, the entire thing was litigated to death in this thread weeks ago and it turns out there's a lot to unpack with her opinion but FI super wanted to get in and make a sick burn, so here we are. Goons respond with incredible fragility when you point out any fact that reveals their political idols as less than infallible gods
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Rosalind posted:https://twitter.com/AthertonKD/status/1196788897033797634 yeah, between my chortles i concluded that it was probably an advertising success, if apparently not the one the dudes who were interviewed about it were aiming for
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