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I liken it to so many people trying to make "the anime RPG" or "the Steampunk RPG." They're aesthetics people are trying to make into genres, and they never translate well into gameplay. Like, Netrunner had difficulties feeling cyberpunk at times and the games mechanics were built around an asymmetrical balance of the little guy fighting the monolithic faceless corporation. The idea of hacking, of corporate espionage, or crushing the small, all were intrinsic to the game. How would you even do cyberpunk magic? More vehicles? More equipment? Okay I guess.
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sit on my Facebook posted:Cyberpunk Magic would probably mostly be about the art direction right Yes. Snapcaster Chandras all the way down.
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PJOmega posted:I liken it to so many people trying to make "the anime RPG" or "the Steampunk RPG." They're aesthetics people are trying to make into genres, and they never translate well into gameplay. I don't want to get into a game design theory discussion, but is it possible those game mechanics don't feel sci-fi enough is that you're so used to those mechanics being coded as fantasy? As in: this is a card that I pay a cost for and play it from my hand, it has an effect and then is put into my discard pile. That feels like a spell, because Magic does that, even though this might be "Orbital Bombardment" instead of Fireball in this hypothetical game. Fantasy is the default for basically every genre of game, so it's going to feel like Magic or Dungeons & Dragons with laser beams and hacking no matter what.
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Remember when Wizards had fun with their website?
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Magic: The Gathering: Big Jitte Goth GF
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It inspired me to make a fake card reveal for a custom magic contest a while ago. 
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I swear that back in the days of Odyssey / Onslaught that there was a leak that they were looking for "magipunk" artists and people made a stink about it. In 2003-ish terms, of course. There was no twitter, so you had to work to shitpost. Also, holy poo poo is there nothing I want less than MtG 'megacorporations'. (Even though you could uncharitably describe the Ravnica guilds as that.)
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LifeLynx posted:I don't want to get into a game design theory discussion, but is it possible those game mechanics don't feel sci-fi enough is that you're so used to those mechanics being coded as fantasy? As in: this is a card that I pay a cost for and play it from my hand, it has an effect and then is put into my discard pile. That feels like a spell, because Magic does that, even though this might be "Orbital Bombardment" instead of Fireball in this hypothetical game. Fantasy is the default for basically every genre of game, so it's going to feel like Magic or Dungeons & Dragons with laser beams and hacking no matter what. It really is just the language and setting. It's impossible not to compare other card games to Magic because Magic is the ur-trading card game. Change the word "magic" to "psionics" and place the setting in something that resembles the present or the future and you're set. Psionics are just magic. The Force is just magic.
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Magnetic North posted:I swear that back in the days of Odyssey / Onslaught that there was a leak that they were looking for "magipunk" artists and people made a stink about it. In 2003-ish terms, of course. There was no twitter, so you had to work to shitpost.
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Your reminder that Experimental Frenzy and Runaway Steam-kin are good cards. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/510600665?t=4h32m35s
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Your reminder that Experimental Frenzy and Runaway Steam-kin are good cards. Flame Javelin is a pretty cool guy. Eh deals 4 damage for 3 mana and doesn't afraid of anything.
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Any expansion outside of "magical antiquity" and "classical fantasy" would be exciting imo. But the playerbase would have a shitfit so it's never going to happen. Maybe if they marketed it as a separate product like "Magic the Gathering: [Something]" and didn't release it along the standard set rotation (i.e. not standard legal), regular magic players wouldn't be too grossed out. Maybe make a cyberpunk Un-set.
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I think cyberpunk could be super cool and flavorful if handled correctly and I 100% do not trust Hasbros of the Coast to handle it with the care and respect it requires.
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Are we talking actual cyberpunk, or are we talking "wow cool robot"
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Jabor posted:Are we talking actual cyberpunk, or are we talking "wow cool robot" It's "wow, cool robot." It's always that one.
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Am I telling Jace to get in a robot Or am I telling someone to get into a robotic Jace
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Devor posted:robotic Jace
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Jabor posted:Are we talking actual cyberpunk, or are we talking "wow cool robot" Computers are illusion magic, cyborgs are artifact zombies or whatever in the vein of Theros Returned and Amonkhet Eternals, drones are thopters, hacking fucks with parameters of 'networks' and 'machines' by altering access permissions (Dimir), destroying parameters (Rakdos), memetic transformation of code (Gruul), pacifying defenses (Selesnya) or seizing control of them (Azorius). Interfaced with through psionics/scrying, etc. I think Shadowrun would be fine but Netrunner would be gross and homogenising.
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Jabor posted:Are we talking actual cyberpunk, or are we talking "wow cool robot" They tried to do real Japanese mythology but the players just wanted "wow cool
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Devor posted:Am I telling Jace to get in a robot  I'm so hosed up...
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Didn't the CommanderVS guys have a deck on a while ago that was just "hands.dec"?
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LifeLynx posted:I don't want to get into a game design theory discussion, but is it possible those game mechanics don't feel sci-fi enough is that you're so used to those mechanics being coded as fantasy? As in: this is a card that I pay a cost for and play it from my hand, it has an effect and then is put into my discard pile. That feels like a spell, because Magic does that, even though this might be "Orbital Bombardment" instead of Fireball in this hypothetical game. Fantasy is the default for basically every genre of game, so it's going to feel like Magic or Dungeons & Dragons with laser beams and hacking no matter what. Nah, definitely not. Netrunner's issues were more that sometimes it felt like it was the poor megacorp fighting against the cackling uberhacker, which is antithetical to punk motifs. It was great thematically beyond that. And I don't believe I ever thought of Scorched Earth as a fireball. Partly because mechanically it was tied into needing to know where the hacker's pitiful meat was. More the issue is magic is intrinsically already, well, Magic. Izzet stuff could already be considered punk-esque, but everything in the game will be constrained by the language extant in the game already. By nature everything will be symmetrical, and design has already shown how fundamental that is. Even, for instance, Gruul which should have been the urPunks of Ravnica were simply yet another faction, balanced and similar. Balance and symmetry are important. We can't have a guild that is all 8 Mana game enders and another that is 1-3 Mana spells that are all only useful when they work together. So the very imbalance necessary for -punk to work is absent. I may very well be wrong. And I think it could be fun to have a more modernesque art direction for a set. But jumping to a cyberpunk plane of glass towers and hacking would be, in my opinion, really hard to thematically bring about. Magipunk is already hard enough for WotC to do.
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The Clowner posted:Any expansion outside of "magical antiquity" and "classical fantasy" would be exciting imo. But the playerbase would have a shitfit so it's never going to happen. Bout time they finally made use of the Deckmaster branding I'd say
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If anime ruins an other thing I love I don't think I have the strength to go on.
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DangerDongs posted:If anime ruins an other thing I love I don't think I have the strength to go on. you are weak
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The Clowner posted:Any expansion outside of "magical antiquity" and "classical fantasy" would be exciting imo. But the playerbase would have a shitfit so it's never going to happen. we're just not gonna talk about Mirrodin or Kaladesh at all in this thread huh
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Bust Rodd posted:https://twitter.com/olivertomajko/status/1196835666589626369?s=21 Capping events would be a step in the right direction but they would likely be attending all of the Opens anyways. Unless someone had a particularly strong start to the year or won the first Invitational. Even with the Pro Points Club cap I've known of people who travel great distances towards the end of the year to try and spike an event for Silver/Gold. Thought they messed around with IQs at some point regarding points. Anyways an easy fix for that would just make it so you don't earn any unless you have less than some number that all of the grinders will have anyways.
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I did the survey, voted 1 on every thing in Dominara and told them to go back to New Phyrexia instead. This will accomplish nothing, but it made me feel better.
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Mat Cauthon posted:There were a ton of questions in the survey about anime and mainstream Japanese pop culture, which makes me think we're gonna see "Throne of Eldraine but with IP-friendly references to all your favorite animes" at some point in the near future. "Casting my Notebook of Judgement, naming Geveta, Prince of Taiyans" mandatory lesbian posted:the question about anime hosed me up cause now i cant think of anything other then how much i want a mtg take on neon genesis evangelion  urza already forced his friends into suicide machines to fight unspeakable horrors!
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https://mtgazone.com/twitch-rivals-mtg-arena-decklists/ Lee Shi Tian deciding to go with the weakest colour possible and making it anyway
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Eej posted:https://mtgazone.com/twitch-rivals-mtg-arena-decklists/ HOW is this even a deck
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Eej posted:https://mtgazone.com/twitch-rivals-mtg-arena-decklists/ Hot drat that deck costs $20. With sideboard it's $62, mostly because of Gideon Backblade. More of this please.
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Eej posted:https://mtgazone.com/twitch-rivals-mtg-arena-decklists/ You want to talk about a pile.
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