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oxsnard posted:Holy poo poo. So that's a complete flip, isn't it? Probably smart, if you assume Trump isn't winning in 2020 yea I just flipped over to see the reaction on Fox just in time to see Serious News Man Chris Wallace saying 'uh actually this ISN'T damning to the president' but couldn't even articulate a fake response, just something about how Sondaland doesn't 'take us into the oval office' despite saying it was Trump's agenda?
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Angry_Ed posted:Because Trump himself isn't willing to go down with the ship Heck Yes! Loam! posted:To get a comfy ambassador role and not realizing he's made a huge mistake like he's gob loving bluth. bobjr posted:They didn’t think the ship would sink, and even if it’s not Trump levels of no loyalty it’s all about making more money and nothing else. Everyone knew who Trump was at the time he made that donation, and getting the position of ambassador to the EU is not quite as cushy as sitting in a castle in Luxembourg. You know you are going to be at the center of some serious business, and doing Trump's bidding in Europe is going to frequently put you in an unpleasant position. That's a job best left to a true believer. On an unrelated note, Starbucks have gotten some great advertising throughout these hearings.
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Trump already signalled that he was going to throw Sondland under the bus by calling him a never-trumper. Why on earth would he go to bat for Trump? All Sondland wanted was a hobby ambassadorship. He didn't sign up for this poo poo.
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TyrantWD posted:On an unrelated note, Starbucks have gotten some great advertising throughout these hearings. I'm drinking a Starbucks right now. gently caress.
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BigglesSWE posted:I feel it. This is the day Trump uses a slur in a tweet. Be already has, directed at Liz Warren.
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Nov 20, 2019 15:10
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Sonland uses the ~magic crime words~, which means his opening statement will satisfy the verbal components to cast the 4th level spell: bribery. It's gonna take one Sonland action, so we'll see if Nunes can force a concentration check.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Be already has, directed at Liz Warren. Fair point. At the end of these hearings, GOP:ers will claim that Sonland can’t be trusted because he worked under a corrupt administration, therefor Trump is in the clear.
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PainterofCrap posted:Trump already signalled that he was going to throw Sondland under the bus by calling him a never-trumper. Why on earth would he go to bat for Trump? I figured he wanted to stay on the right wing's accepted side for a future cushy make-work job and would focus mainly on knifing Rudy but welp
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PainterofCrap posted:Trump already signalled that he was going to throw Sondland under the bus by calling him a never-trumper. Why on earth would he go to bat for Trump? If Trump has pardoned some of the already punished people or stuck his neck out even a little I could see him thinking that he could be immune, but I think as long as you see yourself as lasting longer than Trump has power then it’s a pretty big risk to stick yourself to him.
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Sweet Jesus these cowardly fools. If they actually had any balls they could get away with this. Instead Trump throws people under the bus the moment things get dicy, and Sondland is flipping even tho there is only 1% chance he would ever face real consequences if he didn't.
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Never thought in my life I'd be almost glued to C-Span. Adam Schiff does a very good job in his opening statements, and today is probably going to be pretty wild.
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sexpig by night posted:yea I just flipped over to see the reaction on Fox just in time to see Serious News Man Chris Wallace saying 'uh actually this ISN'T damning to the president' but couldn't even articulate a fake response, just something about how Sondaland doesn't 'take us into the oval office' despite saying it was Trump's agenda? i'm still reeling from how hosed they are, he says over and over it was a quid pro quo and Bolton, Pompeo, and Trump all knew about it this now looks to be the biggest news day since trump released the Perfect Transcript
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sexpig by night posted:I figured he wanted to stay on the right wing's accepted side for a future cushy make-work job and would focus mainly on knifing Rudy but welp He probably just wanted to make contacts in Ukraine political and energy circles to increase his fortune. I’m sure he wasn’t counting on something like this to come up.
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hanales posted:He probably just wanted to make contacts in Ukraine political and energy circles to increase his fortune. I’m sure he wasn’t counting on something like this to come up. once again, these people just want normal, routine corruption and Trump had to go and gently caress it up by being a demented idiot who only cares about his election
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Nov 20, 2019 15:18
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Sondland is putting off a vibe that I can't quite put my finger on.
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Nov 20, 2019 15:19
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Part of me hopes that evidence continues to pile up and the Senate refuses to convict. The bloodbath in 2020 elections could be epic
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eke out posted:once again, these people just want normal, routine corruption and Trump had to go and gently caress it up by being a demented idiot who only cares about his election it really is almost impressive how Trump managed to gently caress up normal corruption this badly. Like, if he just let his dudes do normal poo poo he could make millions off normal graft even if he didn't win in 2020
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Ehud posted:Sondland is putting off a vibe that I can't quite put my finger on. 'I'm a corrupt, lying, sack of garbage but even I can recognize this nonsense has us in way too deep and want to go back to doing normal crime please'
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Ehud posted:Sondland is putting off a vibe that I can't quite put my finger on. I'm the one guy in the entire executive with good lawyers.
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Ehud posted:Sondland is putting off a vibe that I can't quite put my finger on. If FYGM had a face, it would be Sondland's right now.
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sexpig by night posted:it really is almost impressive how Trump managed to gently caress up normal corruption this badly. Like, if he just let his dudes do normal poo poo he could make millions off normal graft even if he didn't win in 2020 Normal corruption is just this guy being the EU Ambassador... Him being involved in this kind of shake down isn't normal because typically a competent person would be in charge of that like a Barr.
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Nov 20, 2019 15:22
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Nov 20, 2019 15:22
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Here we go with Nunes pissing and moaning.
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Nov 20, 2019 15:22
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"And now I recognize Ranking Member Nunes..." "*repeated farting noises* ...with that I yield back."
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Here we go with Nunes pissing and moaning. 200 pounds of flopsweat in a magic eye three piece ensemble.
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mcmagic posted:Normal corruption is just this guy being the EU Ambassador... Him being involved in this kind of shake down isn't normal because typically a competent person would be in charge of that like a Barr. yea if you just let your millionaire friend who gave you tons of cash just go to the incredibly wealthy coalition of western European nations you can just make a ton of money the normal way. You already had the scam, why gently caress it up?
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Nov 20, 2019 15:24
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How has someone not been sitting in the hearing dressed as a cow? Huge missed opportunity.
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Is Nunes' strategy to be as obnoxious as possible so everyone tunes out before Sondland talks?
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"No conspiracy theory is too far fetched for the Democrats." That's it. Irony is dead.
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sexpig by night posted:yea if you just let your millionaire friend who gave you tons of cash just go to the incredibly wealthy coalition of western European nations you can just make a ton of money the normal way. You already had the scam, why gently caress it up? Trump hosed up a casino. Several times. I cannot express to you the level of incompetence that takes. Wait now Nunes is just unironically reading Trumpcrimes.txt into the record?
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I can't wait till they call a guy who donated 1,000,000 dollars to his campaign a "NeverTrumper" Should be fun 
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Nunes has nothing left except, "The democrats are just out to get daddy!"
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Ambassador Sondland, you are here today to be smeared... You are the ones who will be smearing him!
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Nunes: "Ambassador Sondland, you are here today to be smeared." Yeah, by the GOP, after his opening statement lands with an audible thud.
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Is it just me or does Nunes just give the same speech each time, almost verbatim? This poo poo is just tiresome monotony.
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TyrantWD posted:Ambassador Sondland, you are here today to be smeared... Smeared by what he's going to admit to.
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