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Fister Roboto posted:It's really cool how the concept of impartial, dedicated civil service is being maligned as a left-wing conspiracy because it doesn't let a toddler president do everything he wants. That's not going to have a lasting effect on our government at all.
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A guy put out picture books about how to talk to your kids about mom's/dad's ptsd incase any of you guys know someone who needs it. http://www.kastlebooks.com/
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Crossposting from the Korea thread, because I think we missed thisCAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:U.S. breaks off talks with South Korea over costs of military alliance
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Fiona Hill is going to have some serious fun with Devin Nunes. https://twitter.com/Olivia_Gazis/status/1197498516257546240?s=19
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facialimpediment posted:Fiona Hill is going to have some serious fun with Devin Nunes. Is she up today?
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That Works posted:Is she up today? yuuuuuup
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That Works posted:Is she up today? Yeah she's the last major witness of the inquiry, as it stands right now. Sort of a closer to wrap up why all this poo poo matters. Considering by reputation she's intelligent, extremely competent, and is leading with the power move of releasing her testimony early (I'm not aware of anyone else doing so anywhere near this early), should be some good dust-ups with congressmen that think they're way more intelligent than they are.
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facialimpediment posted:Yeah she's the last major witness of the inquiry, as it stands right now. Sort of a closer to wrap up why all this poo poo matters. So releasing it this early is, in essence, troll bait?
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I guess non-MAGA people are human scum now: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1197503790729121794?s=20 Having a normal one.
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He's having a huge temper tantrum on twitter this morning https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...ingawful.com%2F
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Hot Karl Marx posted:He's having a huge temper tantrum on twitter this morning He said he'd do this in 2016...
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Yeah, about that. https://twitter.com/kt_so_it_goes/status/1197508911202545664 Gallagher’s attorney called the commander of the SEALs a coward. When even the most toxic part of the SOF community wants you out, that’s really saying something. Eddie can just do the usual ~oPeRaToR~ grift and go work for Black Rifle Coffee Company and write butthurt posts on SOFREP until he’s done with his book or whatever.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Yeah, about that. https://twitter.com/halbritz/status/1197515220027158528 Hot Karl Marx posted:
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This Gallagher situation is just batshit insane. This rear end in a top hat is not going to leave office if he loses the election, and he's going to expect his people to keep him there.
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What exactly can Donnie do prevent Gallagher losing his trident besides leaning on higher ups that he has the power to fire?
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Pryor on Fire posted:This Gallagher situation is just batshit insane. This rear end in a top hat is not going to leave office if he loses the election, and he's going to expect his people to keep him there. Seems like a bad idea to piss off the special warfare community but what do I know. Also lol Trump driving South Korea into a closer relation with PRC.
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LingcodKilla posted:Seems like a bad idea to piss off the special warfare community but what do I know. We are months away from Gallagher being appointed as Secretary of Navy and abolishing the seal program for being disloyal or some poo poo.
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Gallagher was acquitted of six of seven charges, the prosecution unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt six of those seven charges involving the wrongful killing of a prisoner. The seventh charge was for posing for a photo with a human casualty, which was pretty easy to prove. BLUF: Gallagher's punishment of losing rank was consistent with the crime he was convicted of (I've seen a person lose rank for disobeying curfew regulations and being out with someone else who got into a fight). If the Navy was going to punish him for the more serious crimes he was charged with and acquitted of, the punishment would have been much more severe. The president's restoral of rank reversed punishment for that charge, which he was convicted of. That conviction was a novel specification of article 134, the General Article. Here, novel means not one of the example specifications described. Partial text of that staute: MCM posted:Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special, or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court. The article goes on to describe: MCM posted:(1) For clause 1 offenses under Article 134, the following proof is required: Given that a photo is evidence of the crime the first is easy to prove. I think the second is also fairly easy to prove, and was proven to a sufficient degree by a military council. In fact, there's likely sufficient room for a clause 2 offense: MCM posted:(2) For clause 2 offenses under Article 134, the following proof is required: Absent of all the other charges, posing with a human casualty is likely of a sufficient nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces. MCM posted:(3) Conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces (clause 2). “Discredit” means to injure the reputation of. This clause of Article 134 makes punishable conduct which has a tendency to bring the service into disrepute or which tends to lower it in public esteem. Acts in violation of a local civil law or a foreign law may be punished if they are of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces. However, see R.C.M. 203 concerning subject-matter jurisdiction. Manual for Courts-Martial: https://jsc.defense.gov/Portals/99/Documents/2019%20MCM%20(Final)%20(20190108).pdf?ver=2019-01-11-115724-610 Copy of the charge sheet, Charge III, specification 5 germane: https://taskandpurpose.com/navy-seal-war-crimes-charge-sheet piL fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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Suicide Watch posted:The Chapo episode on Hunter was great. You can tell that Hunter is an earnest and well meaning good dude, just with way higher stature than he deserves. Beau was the good one. Hunter is literally enlisted.txt Lol just lol that you listen to chapo
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Viva Miriya posted:Lol just lol that you listen to chapo You can take Matt out of the Midwest but you can't take the Midwest out of Matt 
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piL posted:Gallagher was acquitted of six of seven charges, the prosecution unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt six of those seven charges involving the wrongful killing of a prisoner. The seventh charge was for posing for a photo with a human casualty, which was pretty easy to prove. That's a lot of words that Donny doesn't know or give a poo poo about.
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fknlo posted:Does Gallagher's pardon not carry the same admission of guilt it would on the civilian side? I'm assuming not, because wouldn't they be able to boot him at that point or can the president stop that too? no, there's no admission of guilt involved.
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We're going to regime change Israel to keep Bibi in power.
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LongDarkNight posted:We're going to get suddenly eaten by a bear to keep Bibi in power.
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A Bad Poster posted:That's a lot of words that Donny doesn't know or give a poo poo about. The important words should be quote:To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces
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More good news: https://twitter.com/democracynow/st...ingawful.com%2F And some lol: 
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He looks like Eric more than jr. imo Get hosed Ben https://twitter.com/NTarnopolsky/st...ingawful.com%2F
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A Bad Poster posted:That's a lot of words that Donny doesn't know or give a poo poo about. Agreed, but I want to inject nuance into the second order conversation. The truth is much more boring than the president approving of murder, but it's also not him restoring justice to a person punished for crimes he was acquitted of. I fear the dishonesty surrounding the conversation will continue to be divisive and fail to illuminate the real issue.
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