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A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Algund Eenboom posted:

Bunker Bernie tankie Stalin. Maoism DSA cuck ideology boomer Twitter. Lenin dril titty Marx Posadism

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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Algund Eenboom posted:

Bunker Bernie tankie Stalin. Maoism DSA cuck ideology boomer Twitter. Lenin dril titty Marx Posadism

THE WORDS!... the Words... the words.
Alien, you have spoken the Words. You have spoken them rightly.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Karl Barks posted:

hoxha was basically a wikipedia administrator so i'm still right

drat this works

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

lots of internalized liberalism here but the main thing is maybe they should learn to pick better boyfriends

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
interesting discussion of the PMC (and response to that n+1 article):
https://nonsite.org/feature/n1-and-the-pmc-a-debate-about-moving-on


edit:
the n+1 article in question:
https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/professional-managerial-chasm/

also, if anyone has read other responses to that article please post them itt thanks

Finicums Wake fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Nov 20, 2019

Four-Twenty
Feb 10, 2005

no fear

Karl Barks posted:

hoxha was basically a wikipedia administrator so i'm still right

if you think about it, all wikipedia editors are dogmato-revisionists so this checks out

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Viet Nam News: National Assembly adopts revised Labour Code, adding holiday and allowing independent unions

quote:

November, 20/2019

HÀ NỘI — The National Assembly (NA) this morning voted on the amended labour code with changes to the national holidays and labour practices, after months of heated debate among workers, employers and experts.

A total of 435 deputies voted in favour of the new law out of 453 present, translating to an approval rating of 96.06 per cent. Nine voted against the law while nine abstained.

According to the new amended labour code, workers will be entitled to another day off with full pay the day following or preceding the Independence Day (September 2) holiday – which so far has been observed as a one-day holiday.

The new edition of the labour code also stipulates that the employer can only use workers for overtime working hours when the workers agree to the deal.

The employer also has the obligation to make sure that workers’ overtime hours must not exceed 50 per cent of the hours for their normal working day in a normal working week and cannot be over 12 hours a day, 40 hours a month and 200 hours a year.

However, the code has also provided breathing room for industries such as the production of textile and clothing, footwear, electronics, agro-forestry-fishery businesses – in which seasonal orders require more intensive workloads during certain times of the year – by extending the overtime cap to 300 hours a year.

The higher cap also applies to sectors where there are limited high-quality and skilled human resources, in cases of emergencies that cannot be delayed any further or when there's a need to deal with unforeseen contingencies such as natural disasters or power shortages, and other cases that will be clarified by the Government.

Article 169 of the new labour code also prescribes a roadmap to increase retirement age – the age will be adjusted on a regular basis until the retirement age for men and women in ‘normal working conditions’ reach 62 years old by 2028 and 60 years old by 2035, respectively.

Starting from 2021, the retirement age for men and women in ‘normal working conditions’ will be 60 years old and 3 months for men, and 55 years 4 months old for women. Each year, the retirement age will be raised by 3 months and 4 months for men and women, respectively.

Those working in heavy, hazardous and dangerous jobs, or in extremely disadvantaged regions, or having declined working capacity, can retire early than the prescribed age by a maximum of five years.

Meanwhile, highly-skilled workers and other special cases will be allowed to continue working five years at the maximum past the retirement age.

The amended labour code would also mark the first time where labourers in enterprises are allowed to set up a representative organisation or join one of their own choosing that is independent from the State-run Việt Nam General Confederation of Labour (VGCL).

All of these labour representative organisations are equal in rights and duties in representing the legal rights and interests of the workers, the code said.

The representative organisation, however, would only be considered legal when it obtained a licence from a competent authority.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Enjoy posted:

hoxha was a moron

pump your brakes kid

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


Is this bad or good, I cant tell

E: okay actually reading it looks good

THS
Sep 15, 2017

70% good, 30% bad

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

StashAugustine posted:

Is this bad or good, I cant tell

E: okay actually reading it looks good

more holidays and freedom to make unions seems good, not reducing hours and increasing the retirement age is unfortunate.

it seems Ok.

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

jfc lmao

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

days later i'm still in awe of their only self crit after jumping some people at a DSA meeting is that they should have stolen the projector

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Atrocious Joe posted:

days later i'm still in awe of their only self crit after jumping some people at a DSA meeting is that they should have stolen the projector

maoists, stupid? impossible!

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Atrocious Joe posted:

days later i'm still in awe of their only self crit after jumping some people at a DSA meeting is that they should have stolen the projector

it's not like the social fascists were using it anyway

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

radical chants

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/authcomdoomguy/status/1197414456910917632

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
well, i was going to think about starting an sra chapter, but now im gonna just kill myself instead

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
I wish there was a SRA or RR chapter near me. If I want to get some range time around here I have to subject myself to NRA propaganda.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

StashAugustine posted:

Is this bad or good, I cant tell

E: okay actually reading it looks good

I brought it up primarily because of the part about allowing independent trade unions, which was something that came up in the China thread a lot (prior to the Xinjiang and HK incidents), to the point where the Beijing government would actively crack-down on attempts by workers to organize outside of the state-sanctioned unions

The retirement age bit is also surprising - while it is of course regrettable that they're having to increase it, they're increasing it to 62/60, and only by 2028/2035, as compared to the US where "retirement age" is already at 66 today.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
I think since the "independent" unions still have to petition for approval for the state this won't change much about how the system functions. But if labor perceives it as a win it'll be healthy in the long term.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Larry Parrish posted:

well, i was going to think about starting an sra chapter, but now im gonna just kill myself instead

https://twitter.com/authcomdoomguy/status/1197423552166793216?s=20

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the problem with parodying lifestylists is its identical to regular lifestylists

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



Sra members are all lifestylists and tbh if you're part of any group you're a lifestylist go live in a cave by yourself it's sick

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Poniard posted:

Sra members are all lifestylists and tbh if you're part of any group you're a lifestylist go live in a cave by yourself it's sick

im more of a barrel guy than a cave guy

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I think I'd make a good train-hopping vagabond

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Poniard posted:

Sra members are all lifestylists and tbh if you're part of any group you're a lifestylist go live in a cave by yourself it's sick

having friends is counterrevolutionary, true socialists are all shut ins with no life

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

the only true communist is the deserter in disco elysium

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



I tried to read (first mistake) and I don't really "get" anarchism unless it includes illegalism which is imo a dumb word. if you're being revolutionary why aren't you breaking the law constantly

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

StashAugustine posted:

the only true communist is the deserter in disco elysium

nope. he's a trot

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Poniard posted:

I tried to read (first mistake) and I don't really "get" anarchism unless it includes illegalism which is imo a dumb word. if you're being revolutionary why aren't you breaking the law constantly

Yeah I admit a certain emotional pull to the insurrectionist strain of anarchism, but afaic the main criticism is that it centers individual decisions over collective action. How this intersects with adventurism or volunteerism, I don’t know. There’s so much to read.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Atrocious Joe posted:

days later i'm still in awe of their only self crit after jumping some people at a DSA meeting is that they should have stolen the projector

you've met printer goon, now meet projector revolutionary

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

there is a new thread in qcs with a former admin calling for an end to "morons roleplay tankies in CSPAM"

is that code for start probating/banning any communists or posters to the left of them? because the way tankie is thrown around its such a nebulous term constantly applied to either group

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Percelus posted:

is that code for start probating/banning any communists or posters to the left of them?

Yes.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

pretty much, yeah

Victory Position fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Nov 24, 2019

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

the impeachment is going to end up being another absurd spectacle like russiagate that ends up leaving trump unscathed and because they can't punish trump and his supporters the liberals will lash out at the leftists who told them they were idiots for pursuing the strategy in the first place

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

if the ten thousand posts in the Mueller thread are indicative of anything, the newly-minted socdems are also going to chew at our arms for not wanting to sock it to the mean orange man

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Percelus posted:

there is a new thread in qcs with a former admin calling for an end to "morons roleplay tankies in CSPAM"

is that code for start probating/banning any communists or posters to the left of them? because the way tankie is thrown around its such a nebulous term constantly applied to either group

thats what happens when you go against the grain

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

This is what fascinates me most in existence: the peculiar necessity of imagining what is, in fact, real.


Love to center impeachment on how Trump wasn't giving TOWs and Javelins to the Azov battalion fast enough.

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Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Fun to be in the middle of an information war while reading and posting on these dead gay forums

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