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https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1197574475971215360 Boris Johnson, afraid of Black children.
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Nov 22, 2019 14:12
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Tsaedje posted:You need to be earning over £100k before it costs you a positively crippling £20 a week extra. OMG NO! HOW DARE YOU STEAL FROM JOB CREATORS!
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Anyone got a decent argument to this response? My brain is non-functional this morning. How little work does this moron think that the average person does? If you're getting <£10 of profit per person per hour then your company is already in its death throes and flying headfirst into bankruptcy.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:How little work does this moron think that the average person does? If you're getting <£10 of profit per person per hour then your company is already in its death throes and flying headfirst into bankruptcy. Well it's actually 'If you're getting <£1.79 of profit per person per hour' as the current minimum wage (I refuse to call it living wage) is £8.21/h
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Nov 22, 2019 14:20
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Imagine being so loving wrong that the BBC write a fact check article solely about you
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Nov 22, 2019 14:28
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Jippa posted:I do all my best politics posting on the football forum I use. Lots of right wing stuff but many people that can be swayed if you offer up a proper argument. I too am a much better poster than I appear to be here, because my most brilliant posts go on the ... other forum that I frequent. You wouldn't know it. It's hosted in Canada. (Not making a dig at you, Jippa. I just thought this would be a funny thing to post, thus proving my point that my best material goes elsewhere  )
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Deketh posted:I don't post much here but I'm a heavy lurker, want to say thanks to the thread as a whole for making me more politically aware. I cringe to think of how uninformed my opinions were in the past, and it worries me to think of how many other people must still be so uninformed. I still don't understand a lot of the more in depth political conversation that happens here, but I'm trying! I'm glad that we have been able to help you come around on the subjects of politics and squirrels  And as a fellow sadbrains, I say post as much as you want to, friend!
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so nearly 80% think their children will be worse off and 50% think the economic situation is bad, and you're presenting this as a good thing for some reason?
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Braggart posted:I too am a much better poster than I appear to be here, because my most brilliant posts go on the ... other forum that I frequent. This is a good post and I enjoyed it
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Braggart posted:I too am a much better poster than I appear to be here, because my most brilliant posts go on the ... other forum that I frequent. Ha You are actually right. I'm nowhere near intelligent enough to hang with the big dogs here, my football forum's politics thread is my intellectual level.
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Nov 22, 2019 14:55
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xtothez posted:Imagine being so loving wrong that the BBC write a fact check article solely about you Solid. And as the BBC is a public broadcaster, does this mean he’s been publicly owned?
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Tsaedje posted:Anyone coming up against arguments against the tax changes needs to have this link on hand https://calculate.forlabour.com/ noone will ever say this in the campaigns but if you're in the mindset of minimising your PAYE tax liability and max out the £40,000 annual tax free pension contribution it's actually £90,000 a year before you're paying anything at the current 40% rate and £120,000 a year before the proposed 45% rate
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Jippa posted:Ha I disagree. Post post post! Rarity posted:This is a good post and I enjoyed it Thank you, good poster Rarity 
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I think I would be content for life if I was getting £80k a year.
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Nov 22, 2019 15:11
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happyhippy posted:I think I would be content for life if I was getting £80k a year. Under capitalism this is unlikely. There are various means of extracting profit from various income brackets and we are surprisingly susceptible to them. Most aspects of life are engineered to keep you a worker and consumer (or just loving left to die), with all propaganda aimed at drilling into your primitive brain that consuming things is the path to happiness. Live to work, work to spend, while rent, bills and the nice things in life go up in price. Don't get me wrong, you are of course less vulnerable to the dangers of life as you go up the pay scale, but the fundamentals of someone ELSE making bank off the fruits of your labour remain. I'm pushing 70k a year and I'm a job loss from a 3 month clock towards homelessness because the bulk of the fruits of my labour go to rent and utilities, followed by debt from when I wasn't earning this amount. I'm lucky I've got that buffer, but the risk is there and very real. On top of that, as things stand if I retire I am instantly in poverty. I make this point to illustrate just how loving brutal those risks are to those even worse off rather than ANY attempt to say I've got it hard and to show just how top heavy the economy currently is. e: vvv I think that must be true assuming other needs are met by that point. If I took a pay hike to that amount, I'd be at the point I could start shifting towards saving money towards longer term life goals and shorter term emergencies. Also where you live makes a big difference. 80k in London is a very different kettle of fish to 80k in Wales. NinpoEspiritoSanto fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Nov 22, 2019 15:19
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happyhippy posted:I think I would be content for life if I was getting £80k a year. Isn't 80k past the point where on average you stop being content for life and start just constantly yearning for more? (And yes, I know how this makes my previous statements about MP salaries look. I'm looking at reworking that particular pie in the sky policy idea)
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thespaceinvader posted:Isn't 80k past the point where on average you stop being content for life and start just constantly yearning for more? It is, I believe it’s around the 74k mark.
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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1197875954233860097 lmao
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Nov 22, 2019 15:23
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But also, give me 80k a year for 3 years, I would pay off my mortgage and be much, much better off to the point where one of us working for themself could keep us both alive long term, so, 80k a year would be amazing.
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Nov 22, 2019 15:23
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If I suddenly earned more than four times as much as I do now I'd ruin myself in a week E for basic maths check. Checks out
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Nov 22, 2019 15:29
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I've never earned more than 8k in a year. In some of the jobs I've had, I've seen people realise all too late what "pro rata" means.
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Nov 22, 2019 15:29
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Continuity RCP posted:If I suddenly earned more than (I think?) four times as much as I do now I'd ruin myself in a week If I suddenly had a lot of money I would own even more guitars than I do already. Also my own personal recording studio. That my friends could use for free. Ah, dreams...
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Nov 22, 2019 15:31
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Azza Bamboo posted:I've never earned more than 8k in a year. Latin for "get hosed"
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I've never personally earned more than £12,000 in my entire life. I would have no idea how to spend 80k. I'd barely have any idea how to spend 25
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Nov 22, 2019 15:33
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Give me £80k per year for 3 years and I will instantly have a complete collection of Gamecube games. Do it you cowards.
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^^^^^  It's Friday and I should be doing work but I keep getting distracted by Labour whatsapp groups 
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Give me £80k per year and I'd completely redo the bathroom so it didn't have a shower designed for someone 4' tall in the same corner as the window that is designed as a black mold trap. I need to do this anyway within a few years before the rotting carcass of the window falls out, but like I'd do it tomorrow and have a robot toilet that wipes my rear end. Then, uh, new kitchen? Big garage thing in the back yard? Pay the house off? Leisure wear and matching luggage, a three piece suite in a range of loving fabrics, DIY and wondering who I am on a Sunday morning? That all solid state remake of the MegaCD looks cool I guess? e: lol that tweet https://twitter.com/ivelostlewis/status/1197848893163233282
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With 80k I could save 73k a year, do this for two years and then just buy a modest house in my city with no bank involvement. After that I guess I could live off 20k a year so I just save 60k a year meaning each year I work is 3 years retirement. I then work out which year I can retire assuming I'll make it to 110 ( generous)
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That bastard Corbyn is trying to subliminally tell me to vote labour!  Well I'll show him! I'm not even going to register to vote at all! 
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Nov 22, 2019 15:52
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With £80k a year I might be able to play the new Half Life.
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Earnings chat: in 2007 before I went to live abroad, I was on about £42k which at the time was the 88th percentile according to HMRC figures. That would be something like £50-55k in today's money. (And is 'tax payers only' so all those earning NOT ENOUGH to pay tax are excluded). 95% then was £61.5k and now is around £80k. I find it quite interesting to check out the HMRC spreadsheet (which only goes up to 2016/17 at the moment) https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentile-points-from-1-to-99-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax
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80k a year is an huge amount of money, and generally means you can get away without budgeting and smooth over most of life's little niggles. But the downside is that to earn it you normally have to deal with London and insane mortgage/rent. It doesn't 'feel' like that much until you actually put it into the context of 'my lunch budget is someone else's weekly shop for a family of four'. Of course the hope is you eventually sell that £800.000 house and get the gently caress away from London in your 40s. E: I feel obliged to include the term hedonic treadmill here. I always wanted to own a hedonic treadmill. Anyway  thread (easier to read on the guardian live blog)https://twitter.com/OborneTweets/status/1197807316940275712 https://twitter.com/OborneTweets/status/1197808638485766144 https://twitter.com/OborneTweets/status/1197810293948256258 RockyB fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Yes, yes, I would probably do all of these sensible things with the money before blowing it on guitars, god!  
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Bundy posted:Under capitalism this is unlikely. There are various means of extracting profit from various income brackets and we are surprisingly susceptible to them. Ditto for me. While not earning quite as much, I do live in the north east so my mortgage & other expenses are relatively low compared to others. If I was unable to work for any reason we're realistically still only a few months away from losing the house. That's why my #1 goal now is to build up savings and get the mortgage paid off within the next 10 years.
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Bundy posted:I'm pushing 70k a year and I'm a job loss from a 3 month clock towards homelessness because the bulk of the fruits of my labour go to rent and utilities, followed by debt from when I wasn't earning this amount. I'm lucky I've got that buffer, but the risk is there and very real. On top of that, as things stand if I retire I am instantly in poverty. I make this point to illustrate just how loving brutal those risks are to those even worse off rather than ANY attempt to say I've got it hard and to show just how top heavy the economy currently is. That's pretty insane if rent and utilities can cost that much. Our whole family doesn't make that much a year and we got a house (new, we built it) and two kids and we have enough savings I checked, to last us a year, or to buy a new car (on the cheaper end of the scale anyway). And my so isn't working regularly because she is studying, even then once she works as a nurse we won't approach 70k combined. But I still feel like we got it pretty easy...
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RockyB posted:80k a year is an huge amount of money, and generally means you can get away without budgeting and smooth over most of life's little niggles. But the downside is that to earn it you normally have to deal with London and insane mortgage/rent. It doesn't 'feel' like that much Bundy posted:I'm pushing 70k a year and I'm a job loss from a 3 month clock towards homelessness because the bulk of the fruits of my labour go to rent and utilities, followed by debt from when I wasn't earning this amount. I'm lucky I've got that buffer, but the risk is there and very real. On top of that, as things stand if I retire I am instantly in poverty. I make this point to illustrate just how loving brutal those risks are to those even worse off rather than ANY attempt to say I've got it hard and to show just how top heavy the economy currently is. if you haven't got kids, you need to do some serious budgeting. london is expensive but on £70-£80k you should be putting away tens of thousands in savings each year at the very least also as a rich (high earner, whatever, rich) person talking to two other rich people, be veeeeeeery careful with this chat. when you say it isn't enough, it's because you've baked a lot of stuff into 'necessity' in your mind that most people consider luxuries. stuff like holidays, eating out, a new car, a mortgage, and - most of all! - early retirement are ideas that you can easily get used to and drive you to want more, you will upset people by talking about it or equating it with their own financial insecurities coffeetable fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Im currently just south of 40k, but that is also supporting my wife and child so my wife doesnt have to work so i dont have to shell out stupid amounts on childcare The downside is im paying something like £340 on trains each month commuting as we moved out of the city as it was too expensive. However moving out of the city allowed me to increase the amount i give to charity by a shitload so dont send me to the wall just yet
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I don't think I'm ever retiring. I genuinely think the end for me is either a motorcycle crash or I just give up.
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