|
Heners_UK posted:I'm in a unique situation where I need to shove my new card in an old server with no spare 8pin power cables, and also restricted PCIe length (6.59in max). Unless something changes before BF, I'll have to get a straight 1650, likely Zotac's super compact one. PCIe length may be a difficult limit unless you can do cutting, but I would think a server PSU would have enough power to handle a GPU through some adapter. I once had to install a GPU in a Dell SFF and the only extra power was one SATA. I used a SATA -> Molex adapter, Molex -> 2*Molex splitter and a 2*Molex -> PCIe power adapter.
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 17:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 4, 2024 00:59 |
|
|
I'm thinking of upgrading my GPU from an RX470 to either an RX590 or 1660 Super. It's going to be for couch gaming on a 1080p TV as well as streaming to my MacBook. The main issue is that it's either going to be located in a poorly ventilated cupboard or right behind the TV, so I need a quiet GPU and/or one that doesn't generate much heat. I don't really care about raytracing etc, but ideally I'd like a card that'll last me for 2-3 years of 1080p gaming at high (and eventually medium) quality. I'm leaning a bit toward nVidia as I use some software packages at work that benefit from CUDA acceleration, but if the heat/power consumption is off the charts I'd rather go AMD.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 17:57
|
|
|
heise.de got their hands on a OEM RX5500 and reports 120W power consumption with performance similar to a reference RX580. Price still unknown.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 18:06
|
|
|
eames posted:BTW the $1k Valve Index is sitting on #1 of steams best selling list. I preordered the original steam controller and I learned my lesson. I mean, the index has been out for a while and is very highly reviewed, it's just stupid expensive. I'm not saying the new HL will be worth buying a $1000 peripheral, but at least you get a usable and quality product out of it, unlike the steam controller.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 19:04
|
|
|
AfricanBootyShine posted:I'm thinking of upgrading my GPU from an RX470 to either an RX590 or 1660 Super. It's going to be for couch gaming on a 1080p TV as well as streaming to my MacBook. The 1660S uses 2/3rds the power (/generates less heat) than the 590. Mind you, a poorly ventilated cupboard is a bad environment for any GPU. A quality cooler should keep it quiet with unrestricted airflow but you'd have to check reviews of individual models for actual loudness.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 19:07
|
|
|
ItBreathes posted:I mean, the index has been out for a while and is very highly reviewed, it's just stupid expensive. I'm not saying the new HL will be worth buying a $1000 peripheral, but at least you get a usable and quality product out of it, unlike the steam controller. I thought it was pretty easy to look at the steam controller and go yea.. no. I had one of those SNES controllers back when I was a kid and hated it.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 19:55
|
|
|
AfricanBootyShine posted:I'm thinking of upgrading my GPU from an RX470 to either an RX590 or 1660 Super. It's going to be for couch gaming on a 1080p TV as well as streaming to my MacBook. Stream quality will be better with an Nvidia card. Their implementation of hardware encoding looks nicer than AMD's.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 20:32
|
|
|
Saukkis posted:I used a SATA -> Molex adapter, Molex -> 2*Molex splitter and a 2*Molex -> PCIe power adapter. Somebody make the appropriate thread title, I'm on mobile 
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 20:48
|
|
|
GPU Megat[H]read - My PCIe Power Routing Has More Splits than Voldemort's Soul
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 21:54
|
|
|
It's safe to say that the 1660 super is the best mid range card atm right?
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 22:30
|
|
|
Enos Cabell posted:What else to say but "lol". Half Life: Alyx aka "It's Been Almost 13 Years Since HL2:E2 But We Pray You Haven't Lost Interest In The Original HL Franchise Since We Never Concluded The Story"
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 22:53
|
|
|
Saukkis posted:PCIe length may be a difficult limit unless you can do cutting, but I would think a server PSU would have enough power to handle a GPU through some adapter. I once had to install a GPU in a Dell SFF and the only extra power was one SATA. I used a SATA -> Molex adapter, Molex -> 2*Molex splitter and a 2*Molex -> PCIe power adapter. I'll be honest, I think I'm limited to somthing that would fit well into a SFF case (cutting not really something I'd like to do). I can't remember offhand but I think that I've got a few molex free in there. No 8pin for sure and likely no 6pin. Truth is that server is mainly for stuffing hard drives in (unraid box) and GPU use of any sort is a secondary concern. That said, if I found a good option that sips power and could work in this frankenserver, I'd consider it.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 22:54
|
|
|
Bought the majority of my parts for my new 3700X build except a GPU, i'm coming from a 1060 6GB and i'm eyeing the 5700/5700XT series, any particular manufacturers I should stay away from? I've seen a couple Black Friday deals up already but wondering if I should hold out for a better mfg. https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeo...0-021-_-Product
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 23:00
|
|
|
BOOTY-ADE posted:Half Life: Alyx aka "It's Been Almost 13 Years Since HL2:E2 But We Pray You Haven't Lost Interest In The Original HL Franchise Since We Never Concluded The Story" "You're Old Now And Have Disposable Income"
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 23:01
|
|
|
Imagine how many fans of the series has passed on since episode 2 
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 23:19
|
|
|
BOOTY-ADE posted:Half Life: Alyx aka "It's Been Almost 13 Years Since HL2:E2 But We Pray You Haven't Lost Interest In The Original HL Franchise Since We Never Concluded The Story" GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:"You're Old Now And Have Disposable Income" The working title of "Half Life: 60% of Americans would be pushed into debt by a $1000 emergency but this gaming peripheral falls into disposable income" was too long and didn't test well
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 23:20
|
|
|
Granpappy would have wanted me to preorder
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 23:20
|
|
|
Photex posted:Bought the majority of my parts for my new 3700X build except a GPU, i'm coming from a 1060 6GB and i'm eyeing the 5700/5700XT series, any particular manufacturers I should stay away from? I've seen a couple Black Friday deals up already but wondering if I should hold out for a better mfg. Unfortunately it's more of a "what should you buy" lineup. The Sapphire Pulse/Nitro+, Powercolor Red Dragon/Red Devil, and Gigabyte Gaming OC are all good. The blower cards aren't great even for blower cards. The MSi Mech and Evoke are uncharacteristically noisy and a bit hot. Asus' TUF X3 is apparently terrible. XFX's Thicc and Raw cards (lol) are as bad as their names, though apparently the Thicc has been mostly fixed in a revision (though there doesn't seem to be a way to tell if you're buying a revised card). Unfortunately, there aren't any reviews of the Challenger D. ASRock's coolers don't have the best reputation, though. Some users have said it's decent, while others report clicking sounds from the fans. If you're handy, you could also get the $300 version and trade out the cooling for a $50 Accelero Extreme III or IV. It might even be flashable with a 5700 XT bios, but you'd have to do some research. E: MSI Gaming X is also good! EE: Apparently the updated XFX cards are labeled "Thicc II" and "Raw II", and are now decent. Stickman fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Nov 22, 2019 |
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2019 23:40
|
|
|
Mayman10 posted:It's safe to say that the 1660 super is the best mid range card atm right? Going up the price scale, i think the best "mid range" parts are right now and their use case with a good CPU: 1650 Super at $160 (1080p/60 Ultra in most things, but less headroom for future games and some dips into the 40s for 1% lows) 1660 Super at $219 (1080p/60 Ultra in nearly everything) Radeon 5700 at $300 (1440p/60 or 1080p/144)
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 00:03
|
|
|
Stickman posted:EE: Apparently the updated XFX cards are labeled "Thicc II" and "Raw II", and are now decent. These have always had the "II" moniker, even the first (bad) revision. Better to stay away.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 00:34
|
|
|
I'm curious how large the user base for Half Life: Alyx is going to be. Min requirements are 12GB RAM, i5-7500/Ryzen 1600, Nvidia 1060 or RX580.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 00:41
|
|
|
Lambert posted:These have always had the "II" moniker, even the first (bad) revision. Better to stay away. Ah, thanks - good advice!
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 00:44
|
|
|
shrike82 posted:I'm curious how large the user base for Half Life: Alyx is going to be. Isn't that about the requirements for any VR game?
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 01:01
|
|
|
I realize those are the minimum requirements, but those aren't too far off the recommends specs for RDR2, so I think the market is larger than people think. I ran the numbers and 35% of respondents to the Steam H/W survey have a card RX480 or better, though I don't know how well it accounts for mobile GPUs.quote:Red Dead Redemption 2 Recommended Requirements
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 01:25
|
|
|
People who have put an AIO watercooler on your GPU, how big was it and where did you put the radiator? In my case I could either get a 120mm rad and put it at the exhaust, or get a 240mm and put it at the front intake. I don't really have the option to put it at the bottom or top of the case. The first option seems underdimensioned and the second one would heat up the intake air for the CPU, but maybe that's not such a big deal? I don't want to build a custom loop or watercool the CPU for the time being.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 01:26
|
|
|
taqueso posted:Isn't that about the requirements for any VR game? The 1060/580 is about average for a VR game. 12GB Ram minmum is not.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 01:28
|
|
|
TheFluff posted:People who have put an AIO watercooler on your GPU, how big was it and where did you put the radiator? In my case I could either get a 120mm rad and put it at the exhaust, or get a 240mm and put it at the front intake. I don't really have the option to put it at the bottom or top of the case. The first option seems underdimensioned and the second one would heat up the intake air for the CPU, but maybe that's not such a big deal? Front of the case. Don’t know what GPU you’re cooling but a 240 mm is far and away better than a 120 mm. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Nov 23, 2019 |
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 01:28
|
|
|
B-Mac posted:Front of the case. Don’t know what GPU you’re cooling but a 240 mm is far and away better than a 120 mm. Was thinking about a 2080/2080S. I know a 120mm is underdimensioned for that though.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 01:31
|
|
|
TheFluff posted:Was thinking about a 2080/2080S. I know a 120mm is underdimensioned for that though. You plan on doing the kraken g12 mod or a different AIO? I’d toss a 240 mm or 280 mm if you can fit it.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 01:33
|
|
|
B-Mac posted:You plan on doing the kraken g12 mod or a different AIO? I’d toss a 240 mm or 280 mm if you can fit it. Kraken G12 yeah. I use 2x140mm intake fans at the moment with some space to spare so a 280mm should be possible. 360mm could be possible but it's sort of doubtful, there's a PSU shroud at the bottom that's probably gonna interfere but I haven't planned that far ahead yet. Could maybe do push-pull too if it helps, but I don't know how I'd mount that. e: hmm. looking at the case manual it should be possible to remove a plastic cover piece from the PSU shroud and mount a 280mm at the bottom front of the case with at least a 120mm or maybe a 140mm above that for the CPU. That sounds pretty neat. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Nov 23, 2019 |
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 01:46
|
|
|
Stickman posted:Unfortunately it's more of a "what should you buy" lineup. The Sapphire Pulse/Nitro+, Powercolor Red Dragon/Red Devil, and Gigabyte Gaming OC are all good. The blower cards aren't great even for blower cards. The MSi Mech and Evoke are uncharacteristically noisy and a bit hot. Asus' TUF X3 is apparently terrible. XFX's Thicc and Raw cards (lol) are as bad as their names, though apparently the Thicc has been mostly fixed in a revision (though there doesn't seem to be a way to tell if you're buying a revised card). Thank you very much! I’ve set a couple camelcamelcamel alerts for the recommended cards maybe try to catch a deal, I’m traveling till mid December but the GPU is the last thing i need to buy for my new pooper.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 02:45
|
|
|
Please don't flash a 5700, it's the only AMD card in recent memory that was not tuned by an imbecile. Sadly the 5500 seems to have fallen back to old, bad habits (over 1100mV on a small 7nm chip) In other news, 1650Super won the entry level duel against the 5500. 5% performance, 20% perf/W, sauer kraut fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Nov 23, 2019 |
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 03:04
|
|
|
Hey y'all, I have an EVGA Super XC Ultra Gaming Geforce RTX 2070 Super 8 GB, and I was wondering what your thoughts on getting some more performance out of it were? I dunno if it's even worth it. I'm aiming for 1440p/144hz on High/Ultra settings so I thought a bit of an overclock might be advisable.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 03:26
|
|
|
Delirious Wolf posted:Hey y'all, I have an EVGA Super XC Ultra Gaming Geforce RTX 2070 Super 8 GB, and I was wondering what your thoughts on getting some more performance out of it were? I dunno if it's even worth it. I'm aiming for 1440p/144hz on High/Ultra settings so I thought a bit of an overclock might be advisable. Can most likely squeeze at least another 5% if not a bit more. I’d start with overclocking the core. Start at +50 and work your way up increments of 15 until you’re unstable, many GPUs can do 100 or better. Then start your memory at +500 and work up in increments of 50. Max your power limit and the cooler the card runs the higher it can boost. I use MSI afterburner but EVGA has their own overclocking software called Precision. Every 100mhz on core is roughly 5% and memory is good for low single digits gains too. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Nov 23, 2019 |
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 03:56
|
|
|
TheFluff posted:Was thinking about a 2080/2080S. I know a 120mm is underdimensioned for that though. I'd disagree. I run a 1080Ti, which has similar TDP once overclocked, on a 140mm set as exhaust and it's perfectly fine even on low fan settings (like <50C maxed out with fans running basically silently). Even a 120mm would be enough. 240/280mm is overkill for a GPU, honestly.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 04:01
|
|
|
DrDork posted:I'd disagree. I run a 1080Ti, which has similar TDP once overclocked, on a 140mm set as exhaust and it's perfectly fine even on low fan settings (like <50C maxed out with fans running basically silently). Even a 120mm would be enough. 240/280mm is overkill for a GPU, honestly. Gonna disagree with you there. The 120mm AIO was never enough when I tried it on the 1080 ti unless I had the fans in leaf blower mode. If you’re going to go the g12 route you might as well grab a 240 or 280, especially since Turing is temperature sensitive and drops clocks the higher the temps. Worth spending the money now, especially if you transfer the AIO to another card in a few years. Just my opinion of course. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Nov 23, 2019 |
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 04:07
|
|
|
Delirious Wolf posted:. I'm aiming for 1440p/144hz on High/Ultra settings So keep your expectations in check or tune down some sliders. A 2070S won’t even touch 100 fps in Ultra in many games, especially not open world titles like the whole Ubi Soft collection of AC, Watchdogs 2, Ghost Recon, Far Cry 5+New Dawn or The Division 2. Metro Exodus will wreck your fps and Tomb Raider 2016 and 2018 as well. Deus Ex Mankind Divided will say no to 1440p/144, as well as the recent STar Wars Jedi Fallen Order or Red Dead Redemption 2, too. TLDR: If you really want triple digit fps on high and Ultra Settings, we are talking about a 2080Ti.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 04:09
|
|
|
Fwiw, my 2070S does just fine under an H55, a 120mm rad
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 04:28
|
|
|
Interesting input, thanks all of you! I ended up ordering a 280mm X62 because it looks like I can actually fit it without compromising the air intake to the CPU by much if at all. Quite interesting though that a 120 or 140mm AIO is enough to deal with >200W.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 05:24
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 4, 2024 00:59 |
|
|
Unlike with CPUs the very large Die of a GPU makes heat transfer easy. Once the heat is soaked up by the coolant, the effectiveness of a radiator increases the warmer it becomes relative to ambient. With CPUs the thermal “bottleneck” is usually between the Die and the heatsink due to the small surface size, so you have to counter that with lower coolant temperatures which makes radiators less efficient, requiring larger areas to dissipate the heat. That’s why a 120mm AIO could possibly cool a 300W GPU to reasonable core temperatures while a 300W CPU would hit >100C in seconds.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2019 07:24
|
|