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shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

FrozenVent posted:

Aren’t you an engineer?

I don’t think he needs to make a gasket. We’re talking about using charts for the other thing.

Yeah but I went to school up there, watching the deckies torture themselves for their pilotage exams was a popular pastime.

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ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

FrozenVent posted:

Slip a Great Lakes chart in there to catch the guys who don’t read the cartridge or do things by rote.

gently caress US Great Lakes charts.

lol yeah, a lakes chart might be fun. Here's a good one: https://www.nauticalchartsonline.com/chart/zoom?chart=CHS1310

Alternatives for maximum rear end pain:
-Suez Canal lol
-Mississippi River charts lolx2 (https://www.oceangrafix.com/chart/zoom?chart=11370)
-Anything North or South of 55 degrees so that the easy minute=NM conversion doesn't work anymore.
-Any Japanese chart you can find since it probably doesn't use WGS84

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender
Ah geeze, I've never seen a Great Lakes chart. Seems like a good idea though!

Edit: ya'll devious

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Oh yeah get a chart of Lancaster sound or something that’ll gently caress them right up.

But seriously, anything US in the Great Lakes is good. Weird rear end projections, scales in statute miles, channel depth tables, just a load of gently caress you.

The CHS 13XX are river charts, they’re ok for what they are if a bit annoying. Hard to get lost on them though.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Oh hey I’ll have to look it up when I get home but the North East coast of Newfoundland (around Springdale or Good Year Cove) is Not Charted to Modern Standard and the chart is still some black and white poo poo.

Some of the Caribbeans around the Bahamas / Windward have some weird rear end age of sail notations on them too.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Oh the Calumet River is good. “Ok so we just backed up by 100th street, hang a right and the dock is right on your left.”

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Motherfucker.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

maffew buildings posted:

Oh yeah YNC is not the dude we go to for straight info. I'm being told the check out pack needs to be done 60 days prior to EAOS. I've got everything straight, it's on my chain for losing my sep eval/having to make another but I'm just baffled why I don't have orders already and seems someone loving up is most likely.

Well. poo poo. Sorry man. My YNC was a lifer go navy SOB but he would give you the real deal info if you needed it.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

ded posted:

Well. poo poo. Sorry man. My YNC was a lifer go navy SOB but he would give you the real deal info if you needed it.

Yeah ours is a proud member of the Chief's mess

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Wrong thread

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe
This motherfucker right here is the bane of my existence. Good idea having the sole ET do charts. We have tons of experience with them, instead of the 8 BMs in the unit!

https://www.oceangrafix.com/chart/zoom?chart=11489

Kalessin ofSelidor
Jul 28, 2019

Workin gurl

Thronde posted:

This motherfucker right here is the bane of my existence. Good idea having the sole ET do charts. We have tons of experience with them, instead of the 8 BMs in the unit!

https://www.oceangrafix.com/chart/zoom?chart=11489

I mean, if you wanted the charts covered in haze grey paint and dick drawings then yeah have the BMs do it.

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


Thronde posted:

This motherfucker right here is the bane of my existence. Good idea having the sole ET do charts. We have tons of experience with them, instead of the 8 BMs in the unit!

https://www.oceangrafix.com/chart/zoom?chart=11489

Oh gently caress having to go up there to Degauss sucked. We tried to do it all paper/mode 3 and the fixes were so slow the captain finally just did it by eye.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
In case you look at this thread and not the current events thread, fox n friends just got the secnav fired.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Mr. Nice! posted:

In case you look at this thread and not the current events thread, fox n friends just got the secnav fired.

Was just coming here to ask if that was legit. Guy got fired just because Trump was white-knighting the (alleged war criminal) SEAL (restored) Chief?

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

They are claiming that he tried some kind of back-door negotiation with the White House, over this guy’s Trident, and he bypassed the SecDef in doing so.

But who the hell knows what really happened.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


MrMojok posted:

They are claiming that he tried some kind of back-door negotiation with the White House, over this guy’s Trident, and he bypassed the SecDef in doing so.

But who the hell knows what really happened.

I’m having a hard time trying to figure out why the SecDef would fire him if he was trying to toady to Trump.

SecDef said he would keep his trident anyways.

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe

Elendil004 posted:

Oh gently caress having to go up there to Degauss sucked. We tried to do it all paper/mode 3 and the fixes were so slow the captain finally just did it by eye.

Sucks for us escorts too. More than a couple run for yall is a long day for you guys, but a loooong day for us. It's miserable and boring. Only fun we have is when we get to finally get some speed and chase off some sailboat from the channel.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Mr. Nice! posted:

In case you look at this thread and not the current events thread, fox n friends just got the secnav fired.

We really are living in the lamest cyberpunk dystopia.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Mr. Nice! posted:

In case you look at this thread and not the current events thread, fox n friends just got the secnav fired.

Well this was something to wake up to.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

Stultus Maximus posted:

Well this was something to wake up to.

Imagine how surprised the Honorable Mr. Braithwaite will be when he wakes up!

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
Eddie Gallagher on TV this morning saying how the majority of the SEAL community is supportive of this decision and how RADM Green is insubordinate. He is blatantly lying because most of the SEAL officers and specops community people I know are against Gallagher and think he has dishonored the community.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
"Yeah, well they're not real SpecOps/veterans" is a response I have been told firsthand.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
":airquote: Everyone :airquote: supports me!" :smuggo:

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


A Bad Poster posted:

"Yeah, well they're not real SpecOps/veterans" is a response I have been told firsthand.

Just like how for Rs you aren't a real veteran / service member if you aren't a CHUD

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


NOAA has a five year plan to cease all paper and raster chart production. I wonder if that includes the third party print on demand.

The Valley Stared
Nov 4, 2009
^ Yeah. I know a lot of people that are upset about NOAA stopping paper chart production. I understand why they want to do it, but I think it's stupid. Sure a lot of it is "what if" scenarios, but having a paper chart on hand just is incredibly useful.

My reservation for the Yokosuka Navy Lodge got canceled/never transferred correctly, so I'm more than likely not going to be going to Japan now. Some event must be going on in the Yokosuka area too because the nearest reservation I can find for my dates is in South Yokohama. I'm still on the waiting list, but I doubt that I'm going to be getting an email by tomorrow saying that I have a room.

I think that there's a higher power trying to tell me to not go there again since this is now the 3rd time I've tried to go to Japan for something and it's either been canceled or someone else got to go instead. However, not being religious I just prefer to ignore the signs.

CMD598
Apr 12, 2013
Have you tried Atsugi, or is that too far?

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
It's like 45 to an hour by car. And there is no higher power, just incompetence :)

The Valley Stared
Nov 4, 2009

CMD598 posted:

Have you tried Atsugi, or is that too far?

Yeah, Atsugi is too far sadly. My department director already told me that unless I get an email confirmation tomorrow to just cancel it in DTS. He's worried about the constant train rides and something happening.

I'll just go visit family this weekend and then scare the poo poo out of PXOs/PCOs on Monday with how the Navy will abandon them and gently caress them over should anything every happen to their ships.

Just like everyone else :)

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

LingcodKilla posted:

I’m having a hard time trying to figure out why the SecDef would fire him if he was trying to toady to Trump.

SecDef said he would keep his trident anyways.

My understanding is that he was not trying to toady up to Trump. Rather he was trying to make a desk that would keep Trump front interfering further in the process. And he threw a shades of Mattis zinger at Trump in his resignation letter.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

The Valley Stared posted:

He's worried about the constant train rides and something happening.

In Japan?

CMD598
Apr 12, 2013

piL posted:

In Japan?

I definitely recall squadron LSs tad to the boat and commuting from Atsugi.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

vulturesrow posted:

My understanding is that he was not trying to toady up to Trump. Rather he was trying to make a desk that would keep Trump front interfering further in the process. And he threw a shades of Mattis zinger at Trump in his resignation letter.

This is my read as well. Spencer was bucking Trump passively during his entire tenure and this Gallagher business was just the straw that broke the camel's back. When RADM Montgomery was nominated to be USAID Director by Trump, Spencer stopped that with a public censure of the Admiral. Later, Spencer also said he would resign if the engineering problems on the USS Gerald R. Ford were not fixed by delivery because Trump kept using it as a prop to poo poo on the Navy.

Retired Reserve Admiral, USNA grad, former P3 pilot, healthcare lobbyist, and current ambassador to Norway Kenneth Braithwaite has been nominated to be SECNAV. Just like Sondland, he is a Trump donor but seems more qualified than most others.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Howard Phillips posted:

This is my read as well. Spencer was bucking Trump passively during his entire tenure and this Gallagher business was just the straw that broke the camel's back. When RADM Montgomery was nominated to be USAID Director by Trump, Spencer stopped that with a public censure of the Admiral. Later, Spencer also said he would resign if the engineering problems on the USS Gerald R. Ford were not fixed by delivery because Trump kept using it as a prop to poo poo on the Navy.

Retired Reserve Admiral, USNA grad, former P3 pilot, healthcare lobbyist, and current ambassador to Norway Kenneth Braithwaite has been nominated to be SECNAV. Just like Sondland, he is a Trump donor but seems more qualified than most others.

Was he actually a P3 pilot? All I know is

quote:

Braithwaite was commissioned as a U.S. Navy ensign in 1984.[1] He became a naval aviator in April 1986 and was assigned to fly anti-submarine patrol missions.[8] In April 1988 he was reassigned to public affairs duties.[8]
Sounds like flight attrite lat transfer to PAO.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Stultus Maximus posted:

Was he actually a P3 pilot? All I know is

Sounds like flight attrite lat transfer to PAO.

He was a qualified pilot and I believe he conducted deployments in Europe against the Soviets. His timeline makes sense. 1984 grad. Two years of flight training and winging in 1986. Either finish his initial JO sea tour and lat transfer to PAO. Just because he was selected for PAO doesn't mean he left the squadron right away. Usually redesignation admin boards happen on a routine basis and then members go to their new community tours at the end of their normal PRD.

Bottom line, his service was legit. He is very savvy and had a successful Reserve career. In some ways making reserve admiral is just as hard, if not harder for different reasons, than making active duty admiral.

Howard Phillips fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Nov 27, 2019

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Wonder how he feels with this career move. This administration isn’t all that great for long term career moves.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia
Happy turkey day everyone. If any of you are stuck on watch at NASWI, I have cookies and cupcakes I can bring ya.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Jimmy4400nav posted:

Happy turkey day everyone. If any of you are stuck on watch at NASWI, I have cookies and cupcakes I can bring ya.

I'm bringing Christmas to Honolulu and require leftovers.

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Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/BDHerzinger/status/1201542416995692544?s=19

:same:

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